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LlamaRenegade

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  1. 9 minutes ago, D4NNY said:

    I guess this is now the right time and place to ask, there’s been that one demo of SCOM on YouTube for years (which is beautiful) but the sound quality is pretty awful, has there ever been another version available? Surely they demoed it a few times like other Appetite tracks? If it was only that one demo ever done is that why it wasn’t included in the deluxe box set because the quality was not possible to clean up enough?

    The Pasha demo? That was left off the box set along with the other Pasha tracks because Fernando didn’t know the Pasha sessions existed… not even joking :facepalm:

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  2. 3 minutes ago, grogmug said:

    Does this mean the orchestration portion that Marco Beltrami produced has been cut, since he isn’t listed in the credits? I surely hope not.

    Buckmaster and Beltrami don’t have writing credits for any of the CD songs they orchestrated so I don’t think the lack of a writing credit means his part was cut.

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  3. 22 minutes ago, Sweersa said:

    Anyone reading this who has The General, please don't share or leak it (ever, but if you do) until after it is officially released. 

    It will be interesting to compare it to the NITL version, assuming the new one has them on it and isn't a mix from the CD-era. 

    Buddy. There is nobody reading this who casually has access to The General, it wouldn't leak if they did, and GNR won't release a CD-era mix of the song. Give me a break...

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  4. 3 minutes ago, K00b4 said:

    No Brownstone so far..
    would love to see it in the encore.

    It was already played apparently. Here’s the first 9 songs according to someone at the show:

    It's so Easy
    Bad Obsession
    Slither
    Chinese Democracy
    Live and Let Die
    Hard Skool
    Mr. Brownstone
    Rumble/Welcome to the Jungle
    Double Talkin Jive

  5. 8 minutes ago, AxlRoseCDII said:

    Agree, and also it’s just incorrect. The solos on Chinese Democracy are very thought out and some of the best in Guns N’ Roses history. It feels like an attempt to kind of mitigate the fact that GNR still existed without him for a while.

    Exactly. If Robin's solos on Better and This I Love are just him "making it up" on the spot I want to hear what it sounds like when he's actually trying 🙄

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  6. 17 minutes ago, Master Of Reality said:

    Where and when did he say such a thing. As far as I remember he showed respect for the guitar players in an interview a couple years back. He said they did an excellent job on Chinese and that Axl wanted him to do his own thing on those songs. The only song were he really created a new solo though, is Better. He always kinda plays the same solo. For the other songs he makes it up in the moment...and often not so succesfully. I agree that those songs would be better if Fortus played them as they were intended.

    For the most part he has been pretty respectful to the guitarists on CD. This is the quote I’m referring to though.
    https://www.musicradar.com/news/slash-technique-can-become-the-main-aspiration-but-for-me-its-more-about-expressing-some-sort-of-emotional-content

    On the song Better, instead of trying to play like Robin Finck trying to play like you - as per the recorded version - you chose to do your own thing…

    “Some of the stuff I won’t do note-for-note because it doesn’t have a serious melodic significance to the song. It sounded like they were making it up...”

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  7. Slash literally said he didn’t think most of the solos on Chinese Democracy had any “serious melodic significance,” and then noodles the fuck out of what he chooses to play instead. I love Slash, but that’s a huge slap in the face to fans of that material and its players.

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  8. 13 minutes ago, metalavenger99 said:

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    LOL... Were those always registered here?

    No idea, but at least we now know Rick was telling the truth about the title of Tommy Demo #1

    Edit: The ISWC numbers for both of these songs start with T-312 while Hard Skool’s starts with T-310. Does a higher ISWC number suggest that a song was registered more recently than a song with a lower number? Not sure how it all works.

  9. 3 minutes ago, Live Like a Suicide said:

    Good point. Does anyone remember where the Hardskool page directed people to before they made it active?

    I seem to remember the layout being the same as it is now, but with a GNR logo instead of the Hard Skool artwork. The links to streaming services simply led to their artist pages instead of the song itself.

    Edit: After the link was made active but before the song was released, I mean.

  10. 2 minutes ago, Live Like a Suicide said:

    I just put 'ain'tgoindown' into the url of GNR's Linkfire account (where they previously uploaded Absurd and Hardskool) and there is no 404. But putting in 'aintgoindown' (or any other title except the aforementioned Absurd/Hardskool and now 'Ain't Goin Down' does return a 404).Check it out:

    Correct link with no 404: https://gunsnroses.lnk.to/ain'tgoindown

    Link which returns a 404: https://gunsnroses.lnk.to/aintgoindown

    I don’t think this means anything. It redirects you to a generic Linkfire page instead of one with a GNR logo and blank links. If you put an apostrophe in the middle of ANY Linkfire link it redirects you to the main page.

  11. 36 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

    How can you swing that far with a song that is basically the same? this is a prime example of how crazy GNR fans can be. The RIR 01 version of Street of Dreams and the final finished version of Street of Dreams are about 95% similar...🤣

    Agree to disagree. An arrangement can make or break a song in my opinion, You're Crazy on Appetite vs Lies is another good example.

    As someone who heard all the album versions of Chinese Democracy songs before any of the demos or prior live performances, Street of Dreams is a song that never did anything for me until I listened to the Village demos. The album version lacks the balls that The Blues has and the production is pretty cringy.

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  12. 1 hour ago, Dean said:

    Around 2006, I was of the belief that Catcher In The Rye was my favourite GNR song. The version that appeared on the album has none of the charm that the demo had and as much as I love Ron Thal's talents on a guitar, his contributions diminished my enjoyment of the song. I reckon it'll be my next vote when ITW eventually drops off. 

    I'm voting Street of Dreams for the same reason. The RM1 version is one of my favorite GNR songs period while the album version is just completely butchered in comparison

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