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For me it‘s AFD 1998 … 

8 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately, although the result is the same), the things that the hardcore fans want and care about the most (new music, release of concerts, setlist, Axl's voice, Izzy and whatever else) are not up to Fernando and the band definitely doesn't wait for him to come up with ideas about any of these. 

In regards to some of the comments on reddit, although I understand people's need to vent, I think it's not very consistent to point out Fernando's arrogance or that he conducts himself like he is the band etc., and at the same time to expect him to do all the above as if it was his call and blame him because they aren't happening.

Now, the video takedowns and the communication with the fans are among the things that are up to him/he is responsible for, and I think this is where the focus should be in the interactions with him. 

Thank you for bringing some grey into the black and white - honestly!

4 hours ago, vloors said:

Anyone else notice this is basically velvet revolver reuniting. Matt/slash/duff/dave.

Just needs that singer. Wonder what tunes they will play 

 

Hmm ... John 5s’ guitar might be the singer...

2 minutes ago, WhazUp said:

Right.  I think that maybe it may seem that way to some since these forums are really the only place we can congregate in large as GNR fans and discuss GNR so in-depth, including the things about the band that makes us scratch our heads

I think the source of frustration isn't necessarily even if there is or isn't going to be a new album, but rather GNR throwing hints and carrots at GNR fans with absolutely no follow through over the years. 

We have only gotten 1 album since 1993 from GNR, yet every single year there are comments and vague Instagram posts, and odd random Fernando comments, etc. At this point GNR fans should be collectively rolling there eyes at them considering how little those comments seem to actually lead to anything - and it has been that way since like 1998

Agreed

1 hour ago, MYWIFEMYLIFE said:

gnr is a joke at the moment, just a rip off nostalgia act.

1- BRING IZZY AND STEVEN BACK AND BE THE PROPER GNR.

2- RELEASE NEW MUSIC

if you dont do these you are a joke. FUCK YOU!

You are right: With Izzy and Steven on board they will be far away from any nostalgia ...

21 hours ago, Towelie said:

I understand this from a casual fan, but anyone who considers themselves a hardcore fan must be glutten for punishment to not want new music from these guys. How many times do you want to go and see the same songs played the same way, year in, year out? 

In the words of Prince "heavy rotation never made my world go round."

 

The question is not who wants to hear new music - its quite clear most of us (including myself) want to hear new music from this lineup. The question is how to survive until day X is comming (if ever): feeling frustrated? feeling fine? feeling betrayed? beeing curious? Not all hardcore fans are frustrated, some are just curious ...

9 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

Not sure why you wouldn't want more music from GN'R but to each their own. 

No new music - Im fine

New Music - Im pretty fine

1 hour ago, RussTCB said:

I was talking about new music, of course. GN'R has not put out a catalog that will stand the test of time. Sure, one or two songs will but that's about it as of now. 

If there is no new music - Im fine with that

4 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

If the band doesn't put out music, then there's nothing to connect to in the future. 

Their always will be GNR music out there in the universe - its timeless

5 hours ago, RussTCB said:

So.... You have never given Axl, TB and GN'R the benefit of the doubt? 

Why should I?

They make their own decisions: some I like, some I dont -  some I understand, some I dont.

I dont put so much feelings into the band, the emotional connection to me is their music.

1 hour ago, RussTCB said:

LOL, Axel....

Also....heres why you're having a hard time on this forum: we've all been you. For years. For decades. We've all given Axl, GN'R and everyone associated with them a chance. They never stop disappointing us though and they certainly never stop shitting on their loyal fan base. 

You might speek for a majority but not for ALL. Still there are fans seeing the gray between black and white - and thats not a matter of time following a band or forum ...

... the brazilien vodoo  has come over  Slash ... there wont be any album ever ... the shity setlist on Jan 31. ... if only Izzy would have come back ... the world has come to an end ...

Come on guys and gals... its just music we all LOVE!

Honestly, I allways thought CD area Songs without Buckethead wouldnt have a special kind of vibe. But thats not true, this CD has its own  vibe and flow - amazing!

54 minutes ago, Basic_GnR_Fan said:

Hey someone else remembers this! I think it was on a Stern interview where Duff was with the other guys from the Neurotic Outsiders but I can't find the clip online.

Havent found that but another interview with Duff in 96 (Hard Rock France). He was talking about rehearsing with Guns and kickboxing and Benny the Jet (very similar to the titel on the alt setlist)

HR: Does it mean that the Duff McKagan of 1996 is clean?

Duff: Yes. I do kickboxing every day. It's popular in France, uh?

HR: Uh… yes.

Duff: Do you know Benny The Jet?

HR: No

Duff: He was a world champion during 20 years! He's my teacher!

http://www.a-4-d.com/t2672-1996-dd-mm-interview-with-duff-in-hard-rock-france

The whole story is getting freaky:

There is a man who worked (how many ?) years for the band and left some disks in a locker - well knowing the magnitude of the stuff inside ???

However the disks have seen  daylight again and find their way to some hardcore fans leaking song for song - without any reaction of TB, the band nor any media ???

Hardschool appears on the alt setlist - just by accident???

Come on!

At least someone of the inner or outer circel of the band reads the stuff on these pages...

Whats next ?

3 minutes ago, lukepowell1988 said:

Aliens?

Are there still aliens in the band?

Hardschool was the first leak after someone bought some CDs from the locker - hardschool is the first "new" song on the setlist. Coincidence? Im sure its not!

Someone wants to comunicate with us!

7 hours ago, Sosso said:

What makes you think that? Not that I'm against such a thing, I'm just curious. 

First: Melissa has got all the talent  to sing lead vocals on some GNR songs.

Second: It would be a new element - without changing the setlist, without a new song.

My guess: we gonna hear Melissa on lead vocals (one song) 

23 minutes ago, Azifwekare said:

Yeah but they kinda, like, owe me something.

Yes, cause we had to spent  so much money for tickets an all the other stuff in our shelfs we never wanted and needed!

12 minutes ago, username said:

This. I refuse to believe that literally every band can just make this happen except GnR. Especially considering how tons of bands from GnR's generation and older are opening the vaults with special editions, box sets, digital releases and what not. 

Do you really think the fanbase will be satisfied  when he opens the vault? 

8 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

LOL, what a tired old argument. 

You are right, he is passiv and Im on your side to critizise his / the bands / TBs lack of communication ... but he is not responsible for our wishes nor demandings. We are free to create them - arent you?

11 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

Hes the source of all of this because he's lack of remotely caring about the fan base is what has led to this toxic environment. 

Do we have a contract with him he is not fullfilling? 

1 hour ago, AxlRoseCDII said:

I blame no one except Axl for letting this type of atmosphere to form. If he actually released music this would never happen. 

Whats the logic behind this ... you gonna blame Axl  for the  atmosphere we  / some  guys  are creating...? Is he around us?

6 hours ago, Sydney Fan said:

Pity there was a tag for frank

 

Yeah - lets have another drummer-discussion again ... and again ... and again ... and again