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Every ad I’ve seen for the tour looks more like a music festival than a Slash show, and also minimizes Slash’s name in favor of the S.E.R.P.E.N.T. branding. That can’t be doing them any favors.

edit: And I know Slash is branding this as a festival, but a single stage festival with 4-5 bands is just a show with a lot of openers in reality. But I think the festival image of it all is making people less interested. I know a lot of people who all write festivals off as bad sound, short sets, too crowded, or all three lol

I still think a modern Live Era, focusing mostly on 2016 but with highlights from other years like Bad Obsession and Wichita that highlight Axl's older voice, would be the perfect item for this band to release right now. They're still fixated on the old music - they need to prove they still have it with a good mix, a few good videos to go along with it, and good promotion.

A remaster of TSI is probably coming eventually. It won't have the whole box set outfit, but they'll reprint it in 180 gram vinyl, add a couple bonus tracks, and have Duff tell some stories in the liner notes.

9 minutes ago, HollyWoodRose84 said:

This.

There have only been 3 iconic reunions in music history. Zeppelin, Floyd and Guns.
Shame we will never get to see that Troubadour show. 

Didn't SCOM get leaked because the production company didn't get paid and Axl sounded like shit?

24 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said:

I'd like to see it just so that during GNR's set, before his solo, Axl could introduce Slash as 'our original guitar player' or something snarky like that.

Come on now, Axl Rose is not allowed to poke fun at bands that got rid of original members.

But yeah this would stink. And as others said, I think the Motley audience basically a more narrow chunk of the GNR audience. The glam people love Appetite for Destruction, but Motley is a joke to a lot of hard rock folk. Although they grabbed Bob Rock to record 3 new songs recently, so kudos for actually doing that.

Gimme Guns N' Roses: The Album. The Guns side has new stuff, the Rose(s) side has Axl's CD rejects. Sail off into the distance, poetically having a self-titled album as their final album, etc etc.

If CD II was a thing, I’d guess BBF played most if not all of the solos on it.

1 minute ago, allwaystired said:

Is this digital only? 

I find these kinds of things really annoying when bands do them well after the release date- sort of a kick in the teeth to the people that go out and buy the album on release. 

 

Yeah digital only. They usually come out 5-8 weeks after the album to re-boost on streaming platforms as a “new release”.

The production on this record is fantastic.

Expanded edition is out today! I was hoping for a new version of Mezz with Slash from the same sessions Hope is from, but the new tune with Jesse Dayton is cool.

I think Longfeather is the best solo Guns song since they reunited.

Do we know how many songs Buckethead recorded for? I've hoped Quicksong might have been completed at some point if Axl laid down extra scratch vocals and Bucket tracked solos for it in 2001. Soul Monster was recorded in 2004, and The General sounds like 2006 maybe?

25 minutes ago, allwaystired said:

You really don't need to give VR a 'deep dive'- they only made two albums! 

I'd like to see them reunited with a different singer to hear what they'd sound like and what they could write. It would be different of course, but I think it could work. From what others have said on this thread though it seems unlikely, even though they did spend quite some time auditioning for a new singer to replace Scott, if memory serves. 

Lol lemme rephrase; I need to listen to the 2nd album more than once 

It’s actually crazy how much this band can make you think in circles if you try. I just listened to Soul Monster and goddamn it’s great. If I take the optimistic thinking route with the leaked titles like Seven, I can 100% fool myself into thinking CD II is possible and would be great.

Knowing Absurd and The General were released when Atlas has complete vocals, knowing Soul Monster is still not officially released… it’s possible.

I always find it interesting to read posts from people hoping for a VR reunion. I started listening to Slash around 2010, so to me VR is just another one of his numerous pre-Myles solo groups. I need to give them a proper deep dive. Would a VR reunion without Scott actually have different traction versus SMKC?

50 minutes ago, ChrisW said:

February 26, 1993 is the halfway point of Axl's life up to now, closer to the day he was born than to today.  It's also the day the World Trade Center was bombed by Muslim terrorists.  Does everybody remember what a big deal that was?

And just so you know, in less than a year and a half, September 10, 2025, the release of Spaghetti Incident will be also closer to the day Axl was born.  And just look at what he's accomplished.

This is actually kinda fun.  We're still a couple years away, but now I'm curious how long it'll be until half of Axl's life has been after Kurt Cobain got tired of putting up with his wife.

Coming in here to see all the new posts to figure out if there's any real news, leaving feeling existential.

10 minutes ago, Voodoochild said:

Yeah, Brain was there with the band in the 2022 South American tour at least.

I’d ask why he didn’t sit in for a few songs, but I think that would cost Frank a job.

Have Slash and Duff ever met Brain? I’m figuring they’re aware he plays drums on the new songs, but even then.

4 minutes ago, Ralphelmo said:

They played Shadow Life few days back.

Good call, looks like they brought Ghost back too for that one.

On 3/11/2024 at 5:49 PM, Ralphelmo said:

I've been tracking it after the song was released, because it was really close with Hard Skool at that time.

"You're a Lie" 5.6M after 10 years, 

"World On Fire" 2.2M after 8 years,

"Driving Rain" 2.1M after 3 years,

"The River is Rising" 2.6M views after 9 months (Hard Skool 3.3M after 10 months).

Just copied my posts from July 2022.

 

This made me look at all of Slash's streaming numbers on Spotify and I'm surprised at how big of a hit WoF still is. That's always been my favorite, but Bent to Fly, Dirty Girl, and Shadow Life all have more plays than You're a Lie. I wonder why he doesn't play Dirty Girl or Shadow Life but treats You're a Lie and River is Rising like the "hits".

What's really a shame is that they all seem to be on more of a similar page musically than ever. Duff's new album is very 70s rock flavored, most of Axl's recent cover choices have been rooted in 60s/70s rock and blues, Slash is doing a blues album. Plus they brought Bad Obsession and Anything Goes last year which fall right in that vein.

16 minutes ago, Arnuld said:

“We are working on 32 songs. 26 are nearly done.” Including the 5 reworked songs plus Atlas and SOG we are at 21. So minimum there are another 5 that were at or near completion back in 2006. 

And Oh My God. Add in Oklahoma/Berlin, Quicksong, Tonto, and Seven and that's 26 songs, with a bunch more as alternates to fill that up.

I'm firm they don't have a quality album to put out that represents this line-up properly. They definitely have an album's worth of material.

I want Slash, Duff, Axl, and a drummer to get in a room with Andrew Watt. I don't think it's the best group to make a new GNR record, but Andrew has shown to get shit done with these older rock guys better than almost anyone lately.

13 minutes ago, Voodoochild said:

Thanks for sharing this info! It's really fascinating!

Maybe the lack of interplay between drums and bass is only some editing fuck up? Arguably, Duff recorded his parts after the drum track, but maybe he played following a different version/arrangement. 

My theory is that this was a heavily edited combination of real drums, samples and fake drums put together by Caram and Axl for some reason. 

Editing fuck-up is my best guess too. It's not a mistake of Duff's either, just that the drums are too synthetic feeling to get any sort of groove between the rhythm section. My theory is someone else's that I read here years ago; Melissa programmed the drums using samples from Frank's kit and Frank's input, but the parts weren't actually performed by a drummer.

Looking at the five CD remakes we have, Hard Skool and Monsters (in the chorus) both use the same drum samples. From the afterparty leak, we know Monsters is now more of a straightforward rock beat song than it was in 2010. Hard Skool is also dramatically reworked from the Village Leaks. It's possible that the bass/drum intro of Hard Skool was written before Duff and Slash joined, but all of this leads me to believe Perhaps, Absurd, and The General were more or less arranged before Duff and Slash rejoined (we know this to be true for Perhaps and Absurd), while Hard Skool and Monsters were reworked in greater depth by Slash and Duff, leading to new drum machine drums. The drums also don't sound the same tonally as Frank's initial recording sessions (Chinese Democracy, Oh My God BBF version are the two best examples of that I think).

Boston/NY the same weekend as Metallica in Massaschusetts is sucky.

13 minutes ago, Voodoochild said:

Is there any part you'd like to point out? I'm not a drummer, but I've been trying to learn a bit more about it (without having any means to actually play it) for music production purposes. 

The drums aren't wrong as much as they feel incomplete when you try to play them note-for-note. From 0:14 to 0:18 there's the missing kick drum under the sudden switch to the cymbal and a swung snare hit followed by a heavy handed snare roll, all together in a row. Live, Frank doesn't switch to the cymbal and plays a more natural sounding fill to transition into the verse. 2:01 to 2:24 also sticks out to me as something a real drummer wouldn't play based on how little it grooves, and how little interplay there is between the kick drum and bass guitar. But re-watching the live version made me realize Frank plays it way closer to the original than I thought.

Still though, Frank adds ghosted snare notes and extra kick hits across the whole song, which goes back to the incomplete drum part idea.

(time stamps are referencing the studio version btw)

9 minutes ago, Voodoochild said:

It will be an URL:

https://stevenslatedrums.com/ssd5/

This made laugh harder than it should've. I was learning Hard Skool on drums over the weekend note-for-note and there's a couple sections that are so damn unnatural.

I've noticed that about Myles in the last 5 or so years. He's becoming way more subdued on stage, and he never was an Axl to begin with. I also noticed the setlist has been starting to incorporate more breaks for him. The dude is a true professional balancing a ton of projects, and he'll be 55 this year, I think he's been doing the smart thing and listening to his body.

That being said, I'd love to see the Conspirators take a few years off and come back strong instead of the obligatory tour every year and a half. With full respect to Frank, my dream Conspirators configuration is Myles more fully involved and playing guitar, and incorporating Todd vocally in the studio. I feel Myles as an instrumental band member was a big reason Apocalyptic Love felt so strong and cohesive.