Illusion1987

On 5/14/2024 at 1:51 AM, tboneman said:

Francis Ford Coppola is finally going to release his Megalopolis passion project that he started in 1983. So I guess there's hope for everything 😄

Wow, FFC's journey to make Megalopolis seems to be eerily similar to the journey WAR used to make Chinese Democracy. 

Read this article 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/movies/2024/05/16/megalopolis-cannes-francis-ford-coppola/

6 hours ago, JimiRose said:

Lol he did that in like 1982  what's that gotta do with now? this has to be one of the silliest points ever made  

You can be one thing in one decade, and a completely different thing in another. When i was 20 i could run 10 miles in an hour. I'm now in my 30s and it'd probably take me 2 hours! No relevance. 

Please share what you created that was among the top in your industry?

I wouldn't call someone who hitchhikers from Indiana,  to Los Angeles for the sole purpose of being a Rock Star "Lazy".

He already had created  'November Rain' and many other songs when he got off the bus.

Somewhere along the way he reached his breaking point.  The pain vs reward threshold for working on, and releasing new music becane diminishing returns,  in his mind,  especially since his body could no longer keep up with the music,  physically  

It was far less painful to struggle through the songs that made you "Great" then to dig deep down to try to create something, at the level,  and especially with reduced vocal talent and drive to do so.

So...we end up with the stalemate we've had since 2008.

5 hours ago, AxlRQ93 said:

think it means to work at something until you achieve the desired goal & it was directed at slash. It goes in line w Axl’s later comments saying slash didn’t wanna “work that hard” hes basically saying that thx to slash being lazy and unwilling to work here we are

That is ironic since Axl has Essentially been called some round about form of "lazy " by almost everyone he's worked with and ESPECIALLY during the Chinese Democracy sessions.

How many times have we heard the following:

We rarely saw Axl.

I have no clue if he actually wrote lyrics or recorded vocals for the songs that were basically complete, musically?

And then there were the numerous band members,  who presented song ideas to Axl, only to have him respond 'I have no interest in putting effort Into this"

Plus, the 4 new singles are far from polished woekd

Josh was the glue piece behind Chinese Democracy.

Listen to Poe's Haunted which Josh appeared on.

His signature sound/ arrangement is on both albums which is why I always considered those book end  twin albums.  No coincidence the bulk of both albums were created at the same time- late 90s/early 2000s.

He is a musical genius!

56 minutes ago, 2020_Intensions said:

Most useless "News" section in the history of the internet ???

Yep! The world throws out a single breadcrumb about something/anything that could possibly be GNR related, on a very minor scale, and this site creates 500 pages to discuss.

Remember the Spotify "algorithms" and the album that HAD to be right around the corner ?

Now, we have an Axl Rose poorly constructed website, that could be real...or fake, and we are thinking its a lead to a solo album or an autobiography!

10 hours ago, CAFC Nick said:

Wonder if the release of ‘The General’ was closure for a lot of people? Certainly felt that way for me, especially with the ‘Monsters’ leak, feels like this part of my life has got that closure. Anything from here on out is a bonus but I no longer have any expectations or clamour.

I think we all realize that, wirh these 4 singles, Guns N Roses is officially dead as a band that purs out quality music.  2 of the 4 songs are embarrassingly bad.

Also, the band has been ruinited since 2016- 8 YEARS and there isn't even a hint of the reunited group creating a single song.

Put a fork in them...they are DONE!

Those 4 songs was their funeral procrssion

Sorry, if I'm late but do we have a list of the songs on the album with the guest vocalists?

The current Older Axl is scared shitless of EVERYTHING but especially about putting out music. He has no presence...no confidence...no swagger...no creativity 

The Younger Axl didn't give a Fuck...he was hell bent on being the best Frontman he could be, despite his psychological struggles, and NOTHING was going to stand in his way.

Today's version is a neutered beta shell of the creative alpha genius we once knew that revolutionized Rock N' Roll

7 hours ago, 2020_Intensions said:

I think you're all kidding yourselves contemplating single release vs album release ... It's sooooooo so obvious that what they're doing is drip feeding us songs to add excitement to each new tour lol this has nothing to do with artistic / creative integrity 

Funny...because it actually having the opposite effect. I lose more confidence in them with each craptastic release. 

Absurd  ....The General...95% of us here, with.no musical background  + 20 years and millions of dollars to burn on effects/musicians/ studio time can come up with something way better than those turds 

The drip feed isn't building excitement....they are the slow steps on their funeral march.

This band is musically impotent. 

They've been reunited since 2016...2016...8 years! And we don't even have even a rumor of a single post reunion song that they have put together.

Meanwhile, Slash and Duff churn out whole albums on the side and Captain Axl tinkers with leftover throwaway songs that range from Godawful (the General, Absurd) to mediocre (hard skool, perhaps) but far from the GNR standard, even CDs level.

Its over.

I think we can confirm Susan was lying.

All this band had in thew were 4 mediocre Chinese Leftover tracks. 

Didn't this band REUNITE in 2016....EIGHT years ago!

Why do they even need to release an album IF they are releasing download able songs.

We already have 4 of the tracks. The only way an album makes sense is if 50% of it is new.

If the just bundle the singles...we already have them!

I HATE their strategy.

Just add 8 more songs + the 4 for a 12 song NEW album!

It is very interesting how many people have some songs listed in their top 3 as "great" whereas others have those same songs listed in their bottom 3 as "unlistenable".

The CD GNR era has to be among one of the most polarizing.

Rank your list, from best to worst, of the 18 Chinese Democracy era songs.

I'll start.

1. Better

2. Prostitute

3. There Was A Time

4. Street of Dreams

5. Sorry

6. Madagascar 

7. This I Love

8. Shackler's Revenge

9. Perhaps 

10. If The World

11. Catcher in the Rye

12. IRS

13. Chinese Democracy

14.  Hard Skool

15. Scraped 

16. Absurd

17. Riad and the Bedouins

18. The General

75% of CD is really strong and I listen to those songs all the time.

Of the 4 CD Leftovers, I rank them in this order:

Perhaps

Hard Skool

Absurd

The General

..and I think Absurd is a horrible track but compared to The General, it might as well be November Rain.

The General is that unlistenable. It literally hurts my ears to listen to that pile of crap.

Now THAT was worth the listen!

Great work, guys!

7 hours ago, Skamos66 said:

It has come to my attention that 92.5 KISS FM played my AI Axl Cover of Perhaps on the radio earlier today...

That is fucking hilarious.

Link?

13 hours ago, GnR Chris said:

Dang. Even Billy Joel just released a new song that is actually new and not old, vaulted material. 

And the verses don't repeat....he actually wrote words to the song.

And none of the lines were "pussy full of maggots"

6 hours ago, rumandraisin said:

I'd put money on the last time Axl recording vocals for Guns as being 2007, that last session adding bits for Chinese. Described as him bouncing round from song to song. 

Aside from Rock the Rock of course, which I thought was great!

Even Billy Joel found a way to record new vocals:

Anyone who released The General is anything but a perfectionist.

90% of us here, with no musical background, could have improved that song if given 20 years 

52 minutes ago, Trin9498 said:

The general would be 1000x better without the vocal distortion 

The video would be 100 times better without that God awful song.

I just can't listen to it.

It's that bad...makes me long for the days of "pussy full of maggots"

Serioisly, what the hell happened to this band?