Illusion1987

Please share what you created that was among the top in your industry?

I wouldn't call someone who hitchhikers from Indiana, to Los Angeles for the sole purpose of being a Rock Star "Lazy". He already had created 'November Rain' and many other songs when he got off the bus. Somewhere along the way he reached his breaking point. The pain vs reward threshold for working on, and releasing new music becane diminishing returns, in his mind, especially since his body could no longer keep up with the music, physically It was far less painful to struggle through the songs that made you "Great" then to dig deep down to try to create something, at the level, and especially with reduced vocal talent and drive to do so. So...we end up with the stalemate we've had since 2008.

That is ironic since Axl has Essentially been called some round about form of "lazy " by almost everyone he's worked with and ESPECIALLY during the Chinese Democracy sessions. How many times have we heard the following: We rarely saw Axl. I have no clue if he actually wrote lyrics or recorded vocals for the songs that were basically complete, musically? And then there were the numerous band members, who presented song ideas to Axl, only to have him respond 'I have no interest in putting effort Into this" Plus, the 4 new singles are far from polished woekd

Josh was the glue piece behind Chinese Democracy. Listen to Poe's Haunted which Josh appeared on. His signature sound/ arrangement is on both albums which is why I always considered those book end twin albums. No coincidence the bulk of both albums were created at the same time- late 90s/early 2000s. He is a musical genius!

Yep! The world throws out a single breadcrumb about something/anything that could possibly be GNR related, on a very minor scale, and this site creates 500 pages to discuss. Remember the Spotify "algorithms" and the album that HAD to be right around the corner ? Now, we have an Axl Rose poorly constructed website, that could be real...or fake, and we are thinking its a lead to a solo album or an autobiography!

I think we all realize that, wirh these 4 singles, Guns N Roses is officially dead as a band that purs out quality music. 2 of the 4 songs are embarrassingly bad. Also, the band has been ruinited since 2016- 8 YEARS and there isn't even a hint of the reunited group creating a single song. Put a fork in them...they are DONE! Those 4 songs was their funeral procrssion

Sorry, if I'm late but do we have a list of the songs on the album with the guest vocalists?

The current Older Axl is scared shitless of EVERYTHING but especially about putting out music. He has no presence...no confidence...no swagger...no creativity The Younger Axl didn't give a Fuck...he was hell bent on being the best Frontman he could be, despite his psychological struggles, and NOTHING was going to stand in his way. Today's version is a neutered beta shell of the creative alpha genius we once knew that revolutionized Rock N' Roll

Funny...because it actually having the opposite effect. I lose more confidence in them with each craptastic release. Absurd ....The General...95% of us here, with.no musical background + 20 years and millions of dollars to burn on effects/musicians/ studio time can come up with something way better than those turds The drip feed isn't building excitement....they are the slow steps on their funeral march.

This band is musically impotent. They've been reunited since 2016...2016...8 years! And we don't even have even a rumor of a single post reunion song that they have put together. Meanwhile, Slash and Duff churn out whole albums on the side and Captain Axl tinkers with leftover throwaway songs that range from Godawful (the General, Absurd) to mediocre (hard skool, perhaps) but far from the GNR standard, even CDs level.

Its over. I think we can confirm Susan was lying. All this band had in thew were 4 mediocre Chinese Leftover tracks. Didn't this band REUNITE in 2016....EIGHT years ago!

Why do they even need to release an album IF they are releasing download able songs. We already have 4 of the tracks. The only way an album makes sense is if 50% of it is new. If the just bundle the singles...we already have them! I HATE their strategy. Just add 8 more songs + the 4 for a 12 song NEW album!

When the band reunited in 2016...I thought it would only take a couple of years to release a new album, with brand new material, from the newly energized group (a la Aerosmith) Boy...was I wrong!

It is very interesting how many people have some songs listed in their top 3 as "great" whereas others have those same songs listed in their bottom 3 as "unlistenable". The CD GNR era has to be among one of the most polarizing.

If The World is 100% better than The General. The General is bland and repetitive with nothing special about it. ITW is actually a nicely composed song and features some of Axl's best vocals on the whole album

Rank your list, from best to worst, of the 18 Chinese Democracy era songs. I'll start. 1. Better 2. Prostitute 3. There Was A Time 4. Street of Dreams 5. Sorry 6. Madagascar 7. This I Love 8. Shackler's Revenge 9. Perhaps 10. If The World 11. Catcher in the Rye 12. IRS 13. Chinese Democracy 14. Hard Skool 15. Scraped 16. Absurd 17. Riad and the Bedouins 18. The General

75% of CD is really strong and I listen to those songs all the time. Of the 4 CD Leftovers, I rank them in this order: Perhaps Hard Skool Absurd The General ..and I think Absurd is a horrible track but compared to The General, it might as well be November Rain. The General is that unlistenable. It literally hurts my ears to listen to that pile of crap.

Now THAT was worth the listen! Great work, guys!

Link?

And the verses don't repeat....he actually wrote words to the song. And none of the lines were "pussy full of maggots"

Even Billy Joel found a way to record new vocals:

Anyone who released The General is anything but a perfectionist. 90% of us here, with no musical background, could have improved that song if given 20 years

The video would be 100 times better without that God awful song. I just can't listen to it. It's that bad...makes me long for the days of "pussy full of maggots" Serioisly, what the hell happened to this band?

The song is so horrible it makes the video seem like a masterpiece, by comparison

Why didn't they just release the video/digital on the same day and then the record release to the handful that actually use that medium. Why do they always stagger these things....especially after it is bashed for being low quality music. Nobody...and I mean NOBODY outside of this forum cares about a General video. Now dropping a Monsters video and song, or any other QUALITY song would have created a buzz!