NormisX

Not bad, but boring AF.

3 hours ago, DSTK said:

The vinyl version of the general is better than the digital version, no idea on the CD version...I haven't bought a cd for over a decade...the Japanese version of the CD isn't expensive, go & buy it 

Hope someone rips CD version... I haven't had a CD player in 10 years

32 minutes ago, DSTK said:

The only cd available, Japanese import 

Oh, I've missed this one compleatly. How is that version compared to vinyl rip on YT? This one - 

1 hour ago, AxlUlrich said:

Listening to the cd now. The General sounds so much better and less muffled on the chorus

what CD?

14 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said:

 

I haven't listened to the rip, I listened to the actual vinyl and the digital releases.

But, it's fucking hilarious that people were freaking out about The General being vinyl-exclusive at first, and it turns out a vinyl rip is the best version

On 12/23/2023 at 10:00 PM, Gordon Comstock said:

 

Not the electronic verse drums, but the real drums in the chorus are clipping all over the place. It's most noticeable in the fills leading into and out of the chorus, can you hear a 'click' or static kind of sound on the kick beats?

Are we listening to same vinyl rip? Original digital version is clipping like crazy on almost every bassdrum kick, but vinyl rip has almost no clipping...

3 hours ago, BucketEgg said:

screw you guys for pointing out the clipping, because now (I think) I can't unhear it!

I think I can hear something between 1:09 and 1:12, something like two or three clicks/thuds in the background or buried under the guitar while Axl is saying "I never took the time". Especially at 1:11. Can anyone else hear it at that part? I can't tell if my ears are inventing something or not.

 

 

U lucky deaf bastards  I can hear every single clicking... must be hundreds in song. And amen to person who uploaded that vinyl rip on youtube.... Finally I can enjoy the song

On 12/17/2023 at 9:19 PM, WhazUp said:

In the chorus especially it is pretty audible, in particular if you listen to the kick drum hits

You will hear it sound distorted, but not in an intentional way like electronic/industrial music where the drums can intentionally all sound overloaded for effect - in this case it will sound similar to if you blew out cheap speakers.  "Crackling" is the best descriptive term I can use for it

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17 hours ago, kever20 said:

So, I'm super hard of hearing these days. Sometimes songs just sound muddy or muted, and The General leak and official streaming sounded only a little different to me. Both a bit muddy...

 

The vinyl by far is the superior version, and I can pick up a lot of layers I was missing on the other versions.

Almost hard to believe this is vinyl rip... just sounds like the the proper digital mix we never got

12 hours ago, The Matinator said:

A vinlyl rip, even a good one is gonna loose a bit of quality digitally compared to a CD/download. The clipping probably got lost in the transfer

 

Did u listen to it? It's weird but this rip seems to sound better in every way unlike vinyl rips I've heard before, which like U said always sounded warmer, but without so much high end. Makes me think we got some major fuck up with digital release

12 hours ago, gavgnr said:

Can anyone please explain to me like I’m a 2 year old what this clipping issue is? 

All the answers are in this thread already

22 hours ago, SoulMonster said:

The clipping is gone? 

90% yes, this is how I guess song was meant to be released, but someone fucked something up with this digital release

Hell yeah!!! Still not perfect, but much much better! 

3 hours ago, Chris 55 said:

Thanks for the smart ass answer. Very helpful 

Stupid questions may lead to stupid answears  

10 hours ago, El Guapo said:

What's worse than the clipping is that the song is just shit.

That's matter of taste... I love it, dark, heavy, but the damn clipping :D

11 hours ago, themadcaplaughs said:

While I am aware of clipping in a general sense and know it has been on ongoing issue for years, I typically do not immediately hear it unless someone points it out to me. That being said, the second the chorus kicked in during "The General" I immediately heard it; I thought something was wrong with my headphones for a second. I listened to it on Spotify, Tidal, and Amazon Music and heard it in all versions. 

Same....I just hope someday song gets fixed for album release or any other way so I can listen to it withot thoes annoying cracking sounds

1 hour ago, bmus1 said:

Not true for The General but this is true sometimes. Death Magnetic had to be remastered without clipping for Apple Music, but all other streaming services still have the original.

Didn't know this... so Apple just said to Metallica - we won't put this shit on our site?

4 hours ago, BucketEgg said:

I can still hear clipping occasionally after I've turned it off (maybe my laptop speakers are just bad since it's an old one), but if you're on a laptop, make sure to turn off any of that weird speaker-audio-enhancer software that's bundled with laptops. Maybe the mix will still sound terrible (i don't have a good ear for that stuff), but it will make it sound less bad.

(e.g. my laptop has this dolby audio setting that was automatically enabled. It's different for each laptop depending on what was bundled with it.

Top is the official General recorded from youtube with it enabled.

Middle is the official General release from youtube with it disabled.

Bottom was the leaker's file.)

If you're listening to it on Spotify, make sure to find the normalisation setting and turn it off. Some Swifties were complaining the Taylor's versions were mixed terribly, but then after finding that setting and turning it off, it sounded better.

https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/this-spotify-hack-transformed-my-music-thanks-to-taylor-swift

 

Makes no difference... mix is just clipping like crazy, because... well, it's mixed like that. Mind boggling how can someone approve release of this

30 minutes ago, Trell said:

Hahahaha thanks mate😅 maybe invest in some decent headphones and actually listen to the apple music version. Sounds like youre just hating on it cos you dont like the song

1) I love the song and that's the reason why I hate the way mix sounds... it could be so much better with decent mix and master. Just listen to it back to back with any other properly mixed track  

2) Apple version is the same as on other digital platforms

3) I think my 2 sets of studio monitors or Senheiser headphones are just fine

18 minutes ago, timoteo said:

Share an example stop gaslighting 

14 minutes ago, Trell said:

Well i cant say ive heard clipping on apple music🤷‍♂️

Hearing loss usually starts with loosing the hearing in high frequancies.., and the clipping is pretty high pitched... you should be worried

3 hours ago, Trell said:

Sounds alright on apple music, says apple digital master and they normally sort the clipping out

Hard to believe this, because there should be same mix on all platforms and there's nothing a platform can do if handed in bad product. Anybody else have Apple music and can verify this?

2 hours ago, betterman said:

Are you sure for all streaming services? 

Spotify and Youtube, so I guess it's same mix on all other services

4 hours ago, Chris 55 said:

How does it clip? Any examples? 

U deaf or what?  There's a high pitch clicking on almost every bassdrum beat (except a sampled ones in verses)

8 hours ago, betterman said:

Will not be done. 

 

And its not so bad that some of you are saying. 

It has been a general problem in music business for years and I am very aware and against the loudness wars, but you could find equally examples from  hundreds of well known bands. Death Magnetic were miles worse as were some of the releases from U2, Bon Jovi etc.

I agree with - will not be done

Just listened to Death Magnetic single... brickwalled to max, but still somehow listenable unlike The General

6 hours ago, Chris 55 said:

all the digital releases are brickwalled? I haven't bought any of them 

Perhaps sounds good to my ears, Absurd ir pretty ok also... HS is much worse, drums sounds like cheap drum machine and then there is The Clipper... worst sounding mix by any major band out there