lunastar

Very vague and detached. Their album, with them... But not "our album" and "with us", "in this capacity". Recently I came across a discussion of Bon Jovi's work, it was about the fact that they have not included such an element as guitar solos in songs for a long time, there is an opinion that John does not include them because they have gone out of fashion...Have any of you heard a cover of a blues standard Call me the Breeze by Izzy Stradlin. It's 2016. So there are practically no solos there either. Does Axl  need Slash for an album if such a one was being prepared? Just a thought

The song performed by The Temps is perfect to molecules and atoms, I  listen to it once a week and its arrangement has become classic and it is difficult and unusual to perceive the cover as a whole. It seems to me that it is very difficult to make something better or something else out of it, if not impossible. It is also difficult to make a cover of WTTJ where every note is also in its place. After all, Temptations is a vocal group and it was necessary to invite either several vocalists or a more vocally diverse singer here.

Izzy looks great, we must not forget that he is thin and probably watches his diet, thinness makes his face dry. And this is how he looks for about the last 20 years, maybe someone did not see his photo from 2006-2012, but he was already like that. I also see that he radiates energy and is full of strength.

9 hours ago, Blackstar said:

Да, хотя вопрос о виртуальной реальности был немного «нестандартным», учитывая, сколько времени прошло и сколько проектов у Слэша сейчас происходит.

I don't even know what games they're playing. It seems to me that Slash sends some kind of signals through the press, because it is obvious that Axl reads and watches all his interviews. What is their relationship like? For eight years, people have been going through different stages of relationships, and we proceed from some kind of ideal picture of the world, that there is an idyll between them. Aren't they both characterized by emotions of anger and irritation? They are both alcoholics and drug addicts with a shattered psyche and millions in accounts. Maybe there was more than one conflict? I don't think everything is smooth between them. It seemed to me that at the last show of last year's tour in Mexico, they didn't even approach each other on stage. Not how much the material for the album itself can exist, how much it's just slash's signals that he's ready to work. Maybe it was meant to mention VR and justify himself once again and emphasize that he didn't want to work with Scott. Paranoid Axl could have made a scene of jealousy. Anything could be between them.

By the way, there have been minor changes on Axl's website, a missing quotation mark and copyright changes have been added😂🤣😂

9 minutes ago, cineater said:

Он находится в районе, где все богаты. Он в достаточной безопасности. Единственное, что его беспокоит, — это беспокоящие его фанаты. В наши дни он не так популярен, и его фанаты не так молоды, чтобы преследовать его. Как вы видели, он чувствует себя в достаточной безопасности, чтобы бегать по улицам или ходить за почтой. 

Возникает вопрос: поскольку фанатов нет, разъезжающих по Малибу в поисках его, некоторые из них получают предупреждение о том, что они находятся в нужном месте в нужное время? Внутренняя работа, если я изучал этот вопрос.

Во время тура безопасность – это другой вопрос.

Fake fans hired by the Lebeises to maintain the illusion of his popularity?

17 hours ago, Ratam said:

I think if Axl write now his autobiography and relate "his" true he would put in risk  his  relationship with Slash again. Just my feel

And hasn't Slash already put his relationship with Axl at risk by recording a blues album with many different vocalists?

5 hours ago, downzy said:

It all depends on whether sales of Chinese Democracy repaid the money owed to UMG.  And what kind of album commitments had (or still has) with UMG. 

If Axl repaid his debts and isn't contractually to deliver additional albums, he likely retained rights to unreleased material without payment. 

If I had to bet, all of this was renegotiated at some point since the reunion.  It's just a matter of whether any recording during the CD sessions remains the property of UMG if Axl repaid UMG of all recording costs. 

What generally keeps GNR at UMG? If there are any obligations and circumstances that prevent the release of the album, then why not change the label?

6 minutes ago, JAxlMorrison said:

Это была не метафора. Кто-то ДЕЙСТВИТЕЛЬНО нашел голову и руку в мусорном баке, за репетиционным помещением или что-то в этом роде.

A metaphor (from the ancient Greek μεταφορά "transference; figurative meaning") is a word or expression used in a figurative sense, which is based on comparing an object or phenomenon with some other on the basis of their common feature.

The term belongs to Aristotle and is associated with his understanding of art as an imitation of life.

In this case, it is a metaphor of passion and despair, to which the lyrical hero is subject. In my opinion, this is so obvious that it does not require clarification for people who have read any poet at least once.

21 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

Разве вы не знали, что Live Nation является промоутером туров GN'R?

Of course I know, but it seems to me more and more that the powers of the Live Nation are much broader than the promotion of tours. It's as if they define and tell GNR what to do, what repertoire to perform, up to new music. They just squeeze the last juices out of GNR on their own terms. And it has to do with new music. Note that GNR does not even have time for thoughtful recording in the studio, and we have continuous endless tours. That's what I'm talking about.

Live nation. What does it mean? Has Axl finally sold out to the corporation?

6 часов назад, Карис сказал:

Почему моя цитата в вашем посте воспринимается как немецкий язык?🤔 🤨 😵‍💫

Wow. Change the settings 😜🤭🙏

1 hour ago, SoulMonster said:

За исключением того, что это сказал сам Иззи.

What Izzy said is a metaphor, like this: Found a head and an arm in da garbage can

57 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

Потому что он буквально сказал: «Они не хотели делить добычу поровну».

Подробнее о том, что сказал Иззи, и его реакциях здесь:  37. ИЮНЬ 2016 Г. – МАРТ 2017 ГОДА: ТУР "НЕ В ЭТОЙ ЖИЗНИ" — УСПЕХ (a-4-d.com)

These opinions are formed by two camps, Axl's camp and Izzy's camp. That's all. Those who indulge Axl, mix Izzy with shit, those who are on his side, say as it is that Izzy wanted to do everything right. And most importantly, none of the camps talks about equal pay and money. No one has said directly what happened.

39 minutes ago, Rovim said:

нет, Иззи сказал, что они не хотят делить добычу как деньги, и написал об этом песню FP Money. неясно, какой размер доли Иззи считал справедливым и приемлемым, но дело точно не в духе братства. До этого Иззи прекрасно ладил со всеми ними, писал вместе с Даффом, был гостем на сольном альбоме Слэша и несколько раз играл с новыми Gn'R/Axl вживую.

Yes, but only in FP money it says that people are fighting over a bag of money. And there is an open path ahead. Just read the lyrics on the Internet.

3 hours ago, Karice said:

Он также не предсказывал, что все участники Original Guns в конечном итоге либо уйдут (Иззи, Слэш, Дафф), либо будут уволены (Стивен) 💡 По крайней мере, Слэш и Дафф вернулись в 2016 году. Иззи вернется, если он получит равную зарплату. и Стивен так сильно хочет вернуться, что вернулся бы за копейками. 💡

Why did everyone decide that Izzy wanted equal pay? In his tweet, he did not write what he wanted and did not write about the payment. He only indicated that the members of the group do not exist on equal terms. It's a great fan misconception that he wanted equal pay. It was about the fact that there is inequality in the group and the climate in the team is unhealthy. That's why he didn't want to be there. There is no spirit of brotherhood. That's how I understand his message.

40 minutes ago, kiwiguns said:

A person holding an Umbrella over  another person is a normal occurrence around the world for many different reasons, some are religious, some culturual, out of respect, out kindness and courtesy, due to the rain, due to sun, due to a skin condition and for some to protect their privacy. 

The holder of the Umbrella could be any person, a family member, a husband, a wife, a mother/father, a grandmother/grandfather, a stranger, a worker, a person showing respect or being kind and thoughtful. 

Maybe some of you should visit an island in the Pacific and see what happens when an elder leaves the house, a younger person will grab an umbrella as a sign of respect to protect the elder from the sun and heat. Like many cultures around the world, the Pacific Island culture is rasisd to respect your elders and family members. 

Whats the big deal....

Can we now stay on the topic at hand. 

 

 

 

Fine, but there is a nuance. Beta is 69 years old and Axl is 62. He's younger. If you follow your logic, he should have shown respect to an elderly person and held an umbrella. But in fact, just jump out for a parcel alone and not bother an elderly woman.

2 hours ago, Avillart said:

Не хочу еще больше сбивать тему с толку, но, возможно, таким образом каждый сможет судить сам, чушь это или нет - я посмотрел некоторые из тех постов на ФБ, о которых упоминал ранее, так что вы, ребята, можете убедиться в этом сами. 

 

Do I understand correctly that Axl takes off his Band-Aids and gives them to the fans himself? Is his autograph on one of the patches?

57 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said:

Для меня это такой сумасшедший ход. 

Иззи также не выпускал пластинок в эпоху, когда радио не доминировало. Если бы Иззи действительно хотел играть и у него был менеджмент, который знал, как сделать его тем, кем он всегда хотел быть: автором песен в стиле перекати-ковбоя, и он смирился со своей судьбой и присоединился к одному из этих звукозаписывающих лейблов в Нэшвилле, я бы поспорил, что он окажется довольно популярным и потенциально попадет в топ-200 альбомов. 

Особенно, если это был полноценный кантри-альбом. 

Кантри-музыка - единственная музыка, которая до сих пор продается единицей за единицей ФИЗИЧЕСКИХ копий или цифровых загрузок пластинок, что считается за одну полную продажу пластинки, по сравнению с потоком, который составляет примерно 0,009% от продажи или что-то в этом роде. Иззи находится на этапе своей карьеры "Prairie Wind", и этот альбом дебютировал на 11 месте в рейтинге 200 как 26-й студийный альбом Нила Янга. 

Of course, it is not very correct to generalize, but there is an opinion about musicians that they are vulnerable and sensitive people, someone should help them. Usually, a strong-willed woman stands behind a successful musician, for example, Sharon Osbourne, Slash had Perla, and Fortus's wife is a lawyer  who defends his interests. Izzy did not choose/find such a woman/wife. Who does he live with there? some former model who, until recently, rented out the ranch. Who was doing it at all? In general, he was unlucky with a woman/partner. And so, yes, with the right management and moral support, he would have had a very successful career.

1 hour ago, Georgina Arriaga said:

@allwaystiredправ... если Слэша больше нет, то GNR мертвы, независимо от того, приведет ли Эксл новую группу уродов, подобных тем, что были в 2002 году. Для 99,999% населения планеты GNR - это Эксл И Слэш....Дафф - это просто аппендикс.

Я надеюсь, что у Слэша будет достаточно рычагов, чтобы попросить новую музыку, если они захотят снова отправиться в турне...

90% of the success of a song is the song itself, not the style of the hat and the curls underneath. GNR won't die without Slash if Axl records a smash hit with another guitarist. 

Judging by what has happened over the years of quasi-reunion in terms of creative realization, nothing has happened globally. And this suggests that Axl is not the main one here. In an interview in 95-96, he said that Slash prevented him from creatively realizing himself. And we are probably in this time frame right now. In 85-86, Izzy and Axl absorbed Hanoi Rocks to create the AFD. In 95, Slash's material was rejected. In the late nineties, newly hired musicians absorbed industrial to create the CD. Probably in recent years, Slash's material has also been rejected. Maybe Axl has a musical concept in his head, but Slash, like in '95, can't implement it. 

Well, they still don't have a songwriter... 

All this partnership with dividing of loot does not kindle a creative fire. To release new material, they need a production center that will write them songs and produce them. But from what was said earlier here that their contract with Geffen is unclear, perhaps they need to pay for the release of the album out of their own pocket. And do they want to pay if the profit is already going on? Axl probably guessed that a lucrative deal to share the loot from the concerts would be a creative dead end for him. Now he is at a loss, I would even say that he is in a creative trap. On the one hand, he is dependent on the brand, and on the other, his creative vision does not coincide with Slash, as it seems to me

13 часов назад, evilfacelessturtle сказал:

Посмотрим, после 1991 года Иззи написал 68 песен, которые не отличались ничем, а Эксл написал 14 (хотя многие из них были написаны в основном коллегами по группе), в то время как Слэш написал 119 песен, платиновый альбом и даже попал в мейнстримовые. чарты. успех.

Честно говоря, сейчас забавно видеть, как люди пытаются предположить, что Иззи был тайным писательским гением, хотя ясно, что, как только все распались, у Слэша и Эксла они были материалом очень высокого качества. Просто Эксл, очевидно, в гораздо меньшем количестве .

Просто для уточнения, а не для обсуждения. Иззи написал 120 песен (109 сольных и 11 из альбома Ju Ju Hounds), плюс еще три песни были написаны в соавторстве с Даффом МакКаганом.

8 hours ago, MCollins said:

А как насчет его комментария о том, что Грег Гилмор должен был быть барабанщиком еще в 85-м, но был изгнан, а Иззи был просто автором песен, который не должен был быть имиджем группы, и что вся группа, по сути, была создана индустрией? ? Это совершенно необычно, но Аббруццезе должен знать, о чем говорит. 

I think the talent managers brought them all together and just waited for them to become friends, and then the myths about what a fun and friendly band they were were fixed in interviews and then in autobiographies. By the way, one of the talent managers, Vicky Hamilton, said that Axl threatened her. That's not why he threatened her so that she wouldn't blab about how it really was? 

In addition, someone in one of the biographies (I don't remember who wrote, maybe Steven Davis or maybe Razcue) mentioned that Duff was brought to GNR by a talent manager. I think the name Vicky Hamilton was mentioned. 

It was from the very beginning. The usual way to survive and build a career. Nothing to condemn. Judging by the stories of participants in the Los Angeles scene and near it, there were many children of rich parents and parents with musical connections among the musicians in the city. Izzy led the line of acquaintance with them. Chris Webber is the son of wealthy parents, Tracii Guns and Slash are the children of well-connected parents. I think at some point (if we remember, Izzy took Axl away from Rapidfire), they both realized that without influential friends they would not advance. They were ready for the marketing deal mentally. And I think Slash and his parents were actively involved in this deal (Axl and Izzy offer themselves as a tandem of creators, authors (songs, riffs and possibly solos) Slash offers his connections. 

In my opinion, the idea of a marketing project is the missing puzzle to understand what is happening with the band now and especially the last 8 years, no matter how bitter the truth may be. They are used to making deals, acting rationally, and not going the romantic creative way of creating a work of art together. The fact is that the deal between Axl/Izzy and Slash completed (circa 1991). For a new collaboration, they need a new foundation, in this case it's only money. In the classic line-up, the author of the riffs and songs was Izzy/Axl and the fact that they refused to reunite Izzy (songwriter) suggests that writing an album with original music was not from the beginning part of the reunion deal. 

I guess Dave's right.