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Atlas has grown on me. I thought it was shit initially. Atlas, Perhaps, Hardschool all good songs. The rest need work or vocals before we can judge. Eye on you... crap. 

Any leak of Zodiac and Quick song with vocals just went up in value 10 fold. 

Those 2 instrumentals sound awesome. Some other great songs on that disc though..... Atlas versions is the best by far. Listening to prostitute original demo.... cool. 

Interesting but my least favourite of the leaks so far. Certainly experimental. Nothing special lol! Same league as my world, silkworms  et al. 

Hope the remaining songs with vocals are better than this. 

18 minutes ago, ZODIAC said:

Eulogy of a broken heart? Or dies anyone remember the rumored songtitle "cock a roach soup"? 😂

i recall that one! From a long time ago.... no idea where it came from. 

Well he sounds good to me! 

1 hour ago, Mfegz said:

It's quite hard not to notice hahahaha

Have to disagree, the concert experience and live mix does wonders for your ears! ALways sounds worse on recorded videos than if you are actually at the gig. 

Enjoy it everyone, looks like a good venue! 

Review: AWESOME show. One of the best GNR gigs ive ever attended. (12 previous). 

Amazing venue, people, Axl on fire, band on fire... spot on!

Excellent time in estonia.... brilliant people, beer and city. Awesome... hoping for another amazing GNR show!

What are the set times for Monday? 

Flying out tomorrow. Bring it on!

On 7/8/2018 at 9:30 PM, AxlIsGod. said:

You should say it's nothing compared to some fans and who knows when they're back 

Enjoy the show 

Ive been saying 'this is the last time' since 06! However.. i do think this will actually be the last time!

On 7/1/2018 at 11:49 AM, T-Minus said:

I won't spend a single penny on a ticket in his current state.  The last time I saw him live was 2012 and I left after about 50 mins then... And to think, he's 10 times worse than that now.  It's completely embarrassing.

And yet you still take the time to browse and post on a GNR forum. I don't get this! If you are that disatisfied why are you still here? Do you think at 57 Axl will all of a sudden change his voice? I agree he is not as good as i years gone by but he is still an outstanding singer and frontman in my view. 

Apart from the first part of jungle it was fine. ISE was good. Middle to end of Jungle was perfectly acceptable. 

Awful sound mix across ALL bands. 

Compare this '2010' proshot of Jungle to download 2018..... 

I vote download 2018 is better. 

25 minutes ago, GNRfanMILO said:

Lol saying Axl sounds like shit even if it’s a fact = hater

Well in this case he doesn't sound like shit apart from the opening few lines of jungle. 

ISE is good and Jungle is also fine.

Live they were both fucking brilliant at that gig. 

he isn't perfect and NEVER has been in any era. 

The kid who mentioned Reading proshot..... i remember people saying how shit that was back in the day. Comedy forum this. That Jungle was no better and it was in the '2010' era... LOL

Apart from the first part of jungle it was fine. What are people moaning about? ISE was good. Middle to end of Jungle was perfectly acceptable. 

Awful sound mix across ALL bands. 

Really enjoyed that black stone cherry set.... hope Guns have a good one!

30 minutes ago, IncitingChaos said:

 YCBM based on Axl’s voice the last 5 years should be in this neighborhood 

the people going to shows now and enjoying the show is great! But don’t be surprised when they finally get on a pro shot and sound like shit. The comparison doesn’t have to be 2016, maybe the comparison is just decent singing and at the moment Axl isn’t a decent singer. 

On a side note one of my favorite shows i went to was in 2013. Axl sounded phenomenal. The video may not back it up but it was a great show. So I understand where enjoying a show that’s not perfect may come from, however Axl has been embarrassed by nearly every pro shot released of this band. 

And nearly every 2018 song in comparison to 2016 is going to sound bad. So really I’m comparing a 54 year old to a 56 year old. Right now Axl is nailing 4 songs a night where as 2016 a majority of the set was enjoyable. 

If you want to talk about how great a show was then go to the show thread for that show. We are here talking about his vocals in this thread, so there’s going to be some criticisms 

Did Lemmy stop smoking ever? 

What i find really interesting about the GNR saga since NUGNR in 01/02 is that every time (apart from 2010 to a point) the band toured, Axl's voice was 'worse' in some way yet we now look back and hope for a return to certain 'eras' / styles. The fact is that Axls voice since 1985 has never really remained consistent for any length of time. Variables such as drink/drugs/smoking and 'general wear and tear' of the vocal chords & yes his desire to actually push himself have played a part. Sadly age is now catching up with him, clear to see if you compare AXL 12 years ago in 06 to today. There is no doubt that this has taken its toll but i will stress once again that he can still give a wonderful performance, sounds great and the majority of time you don't notice much difference in the live arena apart from when he really fucks things up (like at donington last week of TIL!)

Good debating with you Sir. ;-)

did Lemmy stop smoking..... doubtful!

51 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said:

Yeah.... Thats not true.

2016 was way better than 2017 and especially this year. Appetite songs almost sounded like they did in the old days to me. Stuff like Nightrain, OTGM, My Michelle, etc had immense energy and power. There wad also zero voice cracking and minimal micky for the majority of the rest of the set, too. Some songs like Yesterdays and TWAT were a little rough, but nothing unbearable. He may not have been quite as raspy and powerful as 2010, but he was pretty spot on 

Not to mention the ACDC gigs where he was straight up AFD Axl, surpassing it equating even 2010 Axl

People get older, but its been a big decline in only 2 years. I dont know the reasons, could be age, lack of preparation, fatigue...Idk. The shows are still great. I saw them last year, I still had fun, but its natural to talk about Axls vocals here, since it is a fan forum. For the most part, they are just not comparable to 2016. I havent seen a single consistant 2017 or 2018 show that equates to a single 2016 show vocally. Again, that doesnt mean the tour sucks, it's just my observation based on the vocals.

I wouldnt even rule out improvement. People thought he was done 2011-2014 (sans the last few shows), and he came back with a vengeance in 2016. We will see what happens in the future, at least it seems theres a little improvement since Berlin

Edit- forgive spelling errors, mobile post

You are comparing the best of 2016 i feel. NIghtrain is still awesome, as would OTGM i'm sure if they played it. Zero mickey in 2016... don't talk rubbish. Go back and listen to estranged, rocket queen etc and you will find that most of the time they sound very  similar to today. Don't cry and yesterdays are the same. Patience is the same. PC arguably worse than the last few shows. YCBM consistently struggled since 2006!

Raspy and powerful in 2010... saw the band 3 times that year. Live, no massive difference really in terms of the concert experience although i would agree that overall Axl is not as good today as back then. 8 years is a long time when you are at his age! He had more energy absolutely. But he still has plenty of energy now for a 57 year old. You cannot compare the demand of GNR songs to the likes of the Stones etc. 

Re the AXL/DC stuff... saw that live in 2016 and it was awesome. Although people forget that on many tracks he sings exactly like he currently does on estranged for examples. Listen to 'dirty deeds' and the like. 

I'm a realist and do believe that although the show is still really good and he sounds generally good.. If Axl continues to gradually decline in terms of vocal ability i hope he calls it a day with GNR in the next few years. 

Peace out & long live rock and roll!

5 hours ago, IncitingChaos said:

Alcohol will thin out your voice, which is what has happened 

Don't agree, didn't thin Lemmy out. 

18 hours ago, IncitingChaos said:

I saw that...their expectations are just low. They forget how good he sounded in 2016 and have accepted 4 songs being sang properly in the set

Ok, back down to earth.... most people in the audience would never have seen Axl live and therefore are not comparing him to '2016' vocals... which by the way were only slightly better than what we have today. 

I've seen Axl 11 times since 2006 and every gig i've had a fantastic time and have never found his voice 'perfect'. Watching live i'm not stood analyzing every fucking word/phrase/aspect of each song. I just stand an take it in. 

When you say 'sang properly' what are you referring to exactly? DO you expect that the show will resemble an album recording or something from 1991/2? The vocal range / complexity of GNR tunes combined with the unfortunate fact that Axl has lost some mid range (and is 25 years older) compared to the illusions tour.. probably due to damaging his voice with that rasp.. never going to happen. 

Bottom line is that Axl is nearly 60 and never will sound like he did 30 years ago. Axl and the band still put on an awesome show and live you do not hear (and you don't give a shit) the little slips which occur. 

I was at Donington last week and it was fucking cool. The band and Axl sounded great. Not perfect but still fucking great. I didn't hear anyone moaning about the performance overall and i cant wait to see them again in Tallinn in July. 

bad signal in Florence it appears!

6 minutes ago, Torb said:

Back in the day he didn't squeak during those screams. Speaking of nowadays, 2010, 2016 and AXL/DC proves that he can do it whenever he wants, he's just lazy AF I guess. 

No, maybe not but he didn't have full control of it. AXL/DC  - i saw them in Manchester and it was amazing. However, many songs he still sang with his 'clean' voice. The raspy delivery on Back in Black + Thunderstruck was awesome but he was struggling and did have times where his voice 'broke' during that tour. I would say that the AXL/DC gig i attended was one of my most memorable ever, an amazing show and performance by Axl. 2010 Axl was great but he was really giving it some and although i do agree with you that he can 'turn it on' when required, he obviously feels like it isn't sustainable at the moment and doesn't choose to / can't do it for a full show. 

6 minutes ago, Torb said:

Pay more attention to the videos. Didn't say it sucked though, but he's definitely losing control. I'm just worried about the consequences of singing like that. 

Axl's voice is a wild animal, he never has had full control of that rasp! plenty of times back in the illusion period where it sounded like it was 'out of control'. On the occasion where he does tame the beast it sounds best obviously. He never was perfect and never will be. The consequences of singing like that are more than likely why we he struggles today to sing some of the old the stuff the same way. He certainly has less control of it these days though. 

One too many covers for me in the set at the moment. Witchita has to go, boring fucking song. Adds nothing to the show. Such a shame as this band has so many awesome songs to play yet they throw in silly amounts of covers. Beginning to annoy me.