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Guns 2 Roses rock!

Seen you guys a coupla times in Birmingham. Thanks for the info.

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HANG OUT WIT YOUR WANG OUT!

GUNS N' ROSES ROCKIN THE HAMMERSTEIN!

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6 hour time difference Sweden - New York.

If they go on at 11.00pm, that's 5.00am your time.

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Agreed. I think this person is leaking them purposely but it has nothing to do with management. I think it is all to do with Axl and his procducers. I think they must have agreed to let out a few old demos and give the fans a taste of new tracks. I also think they were naive as the tracks reached the radio and that meant Axl had to get his lawyer (who must be a busy man) involved in the situation.

At the end of the day, I believe that, because of the benefits I mentioned above, management were involved, they love it that it got on the radio, and their requests for us not to spread the leaks on these boards along with Cease and Disist letters to radio stations were necessary measures that, had they not took them, would have made things look very, very suspicious.

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The best threads at the moment are threads about new leaks and official news.

Amen to that

Can't argue there.

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oh my god there are so many damn topic about leaks being intention management leaked them axl wanted them to leak the songs.

I made a separate topic because I don't think many people are taking the possibility seriously. Are you gonna venture an opinion or moan about threads?

(sorry dude )

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OK, so I posted this elsewhere, but I'd like to suggest it here aswell:

It is my firm belief that we are all being played like chumps.

Think about it.

1). We hear nothing for all this time and suddenly all this stuff is being leaked.

2). Axl, who has kept this whole project under tight lock and key, suddenly gets sloppy and tracks are allowed to drop about everywhere like cheap candy from a pinata

3). It coincidently starts just as Axl is suddenly being seen in public - not just by accident - as if the sudden increase in public sightings isn't enough he goes to a Korn launch party and a Victoria's Secret event where he knows he's gonna be centre of attention.

4). Add in the announcement of tour dates - also at the same time.

5). We have varying stories about the discs that these demos have come off - yeah there was definitely "one with 7 tracks: IRS v1, IRS v2, Better, TWAT, IRS, and two instrumentals" - and yet more tracks are appearing. Where the fuck did catcher in the rye come from? So there's two demo discs that are getting leaked at once as has been mentioned? Possibly a third? Yeah right all these songs become magically available, despite being from different discs, at the same time. Far fetched?

6). Who here doesn't get the feeling of being strung along bit by bit? Part of one song, then another part another day, then another song on another day, then a small clip, and so on. How long will this go on for?

7). Minor point - No finished tracks? Not even a hint of a rumour about a finished track being leaked? - So security over that seems as tight as a ducks ass.

8 ). Your main question here is: How would GN'R benefit from these leaks?

a). Free publicity

b ). Gauge fan reactions

c). Possibly (probably only slightly) reduce the demand for leaks from the final album - shifts the focus: there's nobody offering or even thinking about offering money for an album leak because they're too busy trying to get hold of these demos. This could definitley work if the album was due soon.

d). Familiarise fanbase with new material - especially if the album isn't coming out before some of the shows that have been scheduled and they plan on playing some new tracks.

This could harm GN'R you say? How? Sales? Leaked demos of songs are never gonna effect the album sales of Chinese Democracy - would you be happy with only having demos of all the songs?......

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Edit: In addition:

9 ). How fucking long was WAAF allowed to play IRS for? Not only that but when the did get a request to stop playing it they didn't exactly shit their pants. If anything they took it quite lightly.

Now when you consider how management swooped like eagles and cut out all trace of the first IRS leak on the Trunk show - you've gotta wonder.