Voodoo Dolly

All the Young Dudes is one of my favorite songs, and Bowie's decision to let Mott the Hoople record it (as well as Suffragette City, which they rejected) has fascinated me for years. Bowie wasn't an unknown artist looking for a big break in 1972, so I've never understood why he would be willing to spread the creative wealth so casually, as it were. Perhaps I'm making a much bigger deal than what this discussion merits, but I'd assume most would think a musician naturally covets songs they've written that are so distinctly good. And here's Bowie tossing one to the wind as if it's not quite up to his standards. Was he so certain of his future that he was perfectly content in giving away a masterpiece? I just don't understand it at all..

-Kickingthehabit

In 1972 Mott the Hoople had decided to call it a day, they had made some brilliant albums but with little commercial success. Pete Watts, (bassist) was on the phone to Bowie about a job when Bowie said that he was so into MTH and couldn't bear to see them break up. He first offered them Suffragette City, which they turned down..then he came up with Dudes - which they made their own...if you listen to Bowies original version, it's just got no Oomph, but Ian Hunter owned it. I really don't think it would have been a masterpiece without the attitude that Mott the Hoople put into it. Remember they were at the time considered a bit dangerous, having been banned from the Albert Hall and getting all further rock gigs cancelled there.

Oh, I forgot to vote - ALL THE YOUNG DUDES 100%. Can't even compare the two really - one is about social breakdown and exclusion and the other is just - dirge....

PiL are great, another favourite line is :

We only wanted to finish the album with the minimum amount of effort

Which we are now doing very suc-cess-fully

Fodderstompf

Theres another line in that song, something like "I'm now about to express my frustration at society by spray this fire extinguisher into this microphone"

That's it It sure is a mad song.

Also love

"I'm sorry that I hit you but my string snapped, I'm sorry I disturbed your cat-nap"

Siouxsie - Suburban Relapse

PiL are great, another favourite line is :

We only wanted to finish the album with the minimum amount of effort

Which we are now doing very suc-cess-fully

Fodderstompf

This is another fave :

Fat pig priest

Sanctimonious smiles

He takes the money

You take the lies

PiL

We can't dance, we don't talk much, we just ball and play

But we can move like tigers on vaseline

Well the bitter comes out better on a stolen guitar

You're the blessed, we're the spiders from Mars

You know who!! I loved that for so many years now.

His earlier stuff is his best imo, although i do admire his willingness to experiment. I wasn't mad about that Brodsky quartet stuff. In the early 90's there was an American show called Almost Grown which I was addicted to, the theme tune was a live version of Accidents Will Happen and it was truly beautiful.. i wish I could get that on cd or something.

I saw him live once only in about 1980 at Crystal Palace Bowl with Bob Marley headlining.

My first listen of '09 was Gone Again by Artful Dodger from the Rave On album.

called the complete fire and enjoy recordings and alls i can say is...WOW. total cacophonous rhythm n blues with the most delicious slide guitar. its like...nothing i've ever heard before in terms of all the old blues recordings that i love because its so fucking jumped up (like all music that i like). not the most clearest of clear recordings but just like with all this old blues stuffs its part of the charm. i REALLY love it though, its really something else.

any fans?

Hi Ffrank,

Yeh, I know what you mean about jumped up - totally love the one cd I have (Dust My Broom). Well I dug it out now and am listening again, wondering why I don't play this more often.

If I were to have a traditional funeral I'd choose Religion by Public Image and Venus in Furs Velvet Underground at the end. Doubt if i'd go down that road of church/priest/burial though.

Tom Waits - Rain Dogs

Biffy Clyro - The Vertigo of Bliss

Radiohead - The Bends

The Stooges - Fun House

David Bowie - Ziggy Stardust

I love the Bends as well, and I've left Bowie off my list...........it's hard to make a list of just 5.

It's so hard to think of only 5

Harvest - Neil Young

The Scream - Siouxsie & The Banshees

Mad Shadows - Mott the Hoople

Horses - Patti Smith

The Clash - the Clash

These are my top 5 'cos I continually listen to them, even though I listen to other things, these are always lurking around waiting to be played and even after so many years i still love them. Great thread - makes you remember albums you love and want to hear them again.

This is a clip i've cherished for many years

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FlUAxqQkmc

Poor ol' Sid - can't believe so much time has passed, it just seems like yesterday. I thought i'd pass out when i heard Sid died. RIP

There are so many songs that can make me cry - depending on mood, on what's happened to the person singing etc. If Eva Cassidy comes on the radio when i'm driving then it's guaranteed that i'll be balling my eyes out and have to pull over. I think it's cos she died so young and left kids etc. Don't cry is another one but that's cos of Shannon Hoon who I was crazy about when he was alive. So there's loads and they don't even have to be sad songs. i'm a bit of a sook really.

love the Godfather

Also like

Platoon

Pulp Fiction

Commitments

The Filth & the Fury

Rude Boy

I love Moonie, my dad worked with him before he got famous (Keith Moon, not my dad - he wasn't famous). But anyway dad used to tell a story about moonie always winding all the guys in this factory up all the time, driving them mad. As he was leaving work one day my dad saw some commotion and all the guys had got a hold of keith and turfed him upside down into an outside bin. It wasn't long after that he left and the rest as they say is history. I also knew his sister and went to youth club with her when we were young. she was heaps younger than keith.

johnny thunders

Details please.

Ok! it was in I think 1984, no i'm positive. I was flying from heathrow to dublin and the flight was pretty empty. He was sitting at a window seat, (the band were scattered around the plane, it was really empty) and i was a couple of empty seats

away from him. He asked why was I going to dublin and i was telling him, he got me a drink, he was really cool. Then some of his entourage came over and they were chatting. We all got off the plane at the same time and while we were walking out he turned and waved goodbye at me. My cousin who was meeting me off the plane couldn't believe it, his jaw dropped to the floor when he saw johnny ( or as i like to say - my mate johnny). god bless him and rip johnny thunders.

Shit thats a cool story.

Did you see him when he played?!?!

No - i never saw him play - but at least i had a drink with him!

Very true. You're very lucky.

Pity you didnt have a camera.

Well you know this was pre mobile phones and digital cameras and i know i did have a camera with me packed in a bag somewhere - but it just didn't occur to me, and somehow it would have spoiled the moment - stopping and looking for the camera y'know?

I didn't look at the poll - don't understand how u can compare glam to grunge - there is no comparison.

johnny thunders

Details please.

Ok! it was in I think 1984, no i'm positive. I was flying from heathrow to dublin and the flight was pretty empty. He was sitting at a window seat, (the band were scattered around the plane, it was really empty) and i was a couple of empty seats

away from him. He asked why was I going to dublin and i was telling him, he got me a drink, he was really cool. Then some of his entourage came over and they were chatting. We all got off the plane at the same time and while we were walking out he turned and waved goodbye at me. My cousin who was meeting me off the plane couldn't believe it, his jaw dropped to the floor when he saw johnny ( or as i like to say - my mate johnny). god bless him and rip johnny thunders.

Shit thats a cool story.

Did you see him when he played?!?!

No - i never saw him play - but at least i had a drink with him!

johnny thunders

Details please.

Ok! it was in I think 1984, no i'm positive. I was flying from heathrow to dublin and the flight was pretty empty. He was sitting at a window seat, (the band were scattered around the plane, it was really empty) and i was a couple of empty seats

away from him. He asked why was I going to dublin and i was telling him, he got me a drink, he was really cool. Then some of his entourage came over and they were chatting. We all got off the plane at the same time and while we were walking out he turned and waved goodbye at me. My cousin who was meeting me off the plane couldn't believe it, his jaw dropped to the floor when he saw johnny ( or as i like to say - my mate johnny). god bless him and rip johnny thunders.

Pete Way, Phil Mogg ufo (the nicest guys on the planet)

joe strummer, topper headon , mick jones, paul simenon

ian brown

tom robinson

ian hunter

poly styrene

john coughlan staus quo

poly styrene

johnny thunders

paul cook, steve jones

susan ballion

cozy powell

Noddy Holder

Dave Hill

all of mott

I really really like this a lot. It puts me strongly in mind of something but i don't know what - it's very similar to something i've seen in the past (maybe from late 60's or early 70's) i will try to drag that memory up - it may take some time though.

The Needle & the Damage Done - Neil Young

Down in the tube Station at Midnight - the Jam (it's really, really, sad)

When You're Gone - Cranberries

Rose - Mott the Hoople

Redemption Song - Bob Marley

Actually i want to include Bodies - Sex Pistols - if you listen it really is sad

I absolutely love Elvis - I was brought up listening to Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, Eddie Cochrane, Bill Haley.

I loved Elvis - the Daily Mirror used to run an Elvis fan club and I had a badge which was a 7" disc with a crown on top. I remember listening to radio luxembourg and Tony Prince announcing that Elvis was dead (I'm quite old). I was devastated and couldn't stop crying all the next day.

they were fucking cool. that album stoosh kicks ass. they just seemed to disintegrate as a unit, anyone know why? i think they were the best of the 90s bunch or one of them. what happened?

ffrankwhite - Weak as I Am - one of the best - yet again our tastes collide! Am going to find out whats skin's up to now.