Zephyrus
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Mark Strigl and John Asstronomy are fucking geeks.
Exactly right. Their continued glorification around here astounds me.
You do realise your location is a reference to Dr.Who...?
The podcasts are fun, particularly the stakeout ones- but ultimately fruitless with no extra information.
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S-O-U-R G-R-A-P-E-S ! ! ! ! methinks...
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I think his voice is actually better, well on the European tour at least...no seriously. Listen to him on Nightrain or doing the long scream near the end of KOHD- he does that better than he ever did. The old Axl used to scream out the vocal with raw power, but the new Axl, from a technical perspective, is a more accomplished singer.
I think fitness is the key here. If he runs around the stage and gets out of breath he can't do the rasp as well and sings off-key. Standing still his voice can be spectacular.
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Well, there's my two cents.
With that amount of great detail it was more like ten dollars.
Er...If the leaks (and other new tracks played live) are anything to go by, I think the album is going to be great. The comparisons to Contraband are inevitable and I think CD will greatly surpass it- based on the wide ranging styles and sound compared with Contraband's collection of largely similiar sounding songs.
Commercially the album will do well- I'm betting six to ten million sales worldwide- based on the GNR name and the history alone. What troubles me is the lack of any genuinely catchy songs- this is album which looks as if it will be devoid of the rock anthems that GNR is famous for.
So to sum up- a great album which will I'll keep going back to, but not one which will have any long-standing impact on the music industry.
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Welcome to the bungled jungle
Why Guns N' Roses' irrelevance hasn't hurt their legacy
Woo hoo hoo! ElleGirl magazine thinks I'm the coolest old person! I'm never going to release Chinese Democracy! Woo hoo!
Joshua Ostroff, CanWest News Service
Published: Friday, November 17, 2006
Axl Rose may not want to hear it, but fans and haters alike have long wondered how lost one must be to need nine years and $13 million to record a comeback album.
Yesterday, a day after the band's performance at the Air Canada Centre, news was released that the band's record label had no indication of Chinese Democracy being released in 2006. This comes after Rose and managment had gotten fans' hopes up with strong indication that this would, in fact, be the year. No dice.
Though a few tracks have leaked over the years -- the sprawling epic Madagascar first surfaced in 2002 -- the actual release of Guns N' Roses' Chinese Democracy seemed about as likely as, well, Chinese democracy.
Nearly every year since 1999 -- when the radically revamped GN'R, with Axl as its lone original member, sold its industrial track Oh My God to Arnold Schwarzenegger's End of Days soundtrack -- there have been promises made, but no records delivered.
As Axl became a Howard Hughes-like recluse, running through hired guns and record producers while obsessively rewriting his alleged opus, it became rock 'n' roll's greatest running joke.
This past spring, Spin magazine ran a lengthy review of Chinese Democracy. Was Axl's long-awaited album at hand? After all, pirates had recently loosed three studio songs -- IRS, Better and There Was a Time -- into the wilds of the Internet. But after giggling over the review -- "If you purchased a kitten on the day that Use Your Illusion I & II arrived in stores, it's probably dead by now" -- astute readers noticed the dateline: April 1. Nuts.
But Gunner news kept coming. Radio stations played the leaked demos, Axl sued Slash over royalties, feuded with Scott Weiland (the singer now fronting Axl's former bandmates in the exceedingly bland Velvet Revolver) and even performed concerts, starting in New York, before headlining Euro festivals and eventually embarking on the North American tour.
But since the ageing Axl is essentially fronting a GN'R cover band -- admittedly staffed with top-notch talent from Nine Inch Nails, the Replacements and Psychedelic Furs --why does anyone still give a damn?
Of course, better questions might be: Why did readers of ElleGirl magazine vote Axl the "coolest old person"? Or why is YouTube flooded with homemade music videos of those Chinese Democracy demos? Or why do teens wear Guns N' Roses T-shirts without irony when most weren't even born when Appetite For Destruction first rocked the charts?
See, the original Guns N' Roses represent the sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll myth better than any band since, and their early recordings remain electrifyingly vital. Two decades later, Axl's sneering threat to bring you to your "n-n-n-n-knees" still sounds bloody dangerous, especially compared to modern rockers like The Killers.
Sure, GN'R didn't have the "cool" cachet of Nirvana -- in fact, Kurt Cobain publicly mocked Axl -- but Guns did just as much to end hair metal by so resoundingly out-rocking the likes of Poison and Whitesnake.
GN'R took metal and made it heavy again, but with a bluesy swagger and barrels of grit and sleaze and slam-danceable ugliness.
As Appetite became the biggest-selling debut album ever and was joined on the charts by their quickie EP GN'R Lies, the band became inescapable. There was that unforgettable riff on Sweet Child O' Mine, the whistling intro to Patience, the stories of trashed hotel rooms and trampled concertgoers and charges of drug abuse, racism, homophobia and misogyny.
Years of indulgence manifested in the bombast of their over-ambitious 1991 double-shot Use Your Illusion I and II, which debuted on Billboard's top two spots and included hard-rockers like You Could Be Mine alongside blissfully bloated epics like November Rain.
They launched an equally epic 28-month tour, and I waited in line all night to get tickets for the Vancouver show. Unfortunately, this proved my first opportunity to be disappointed by Axl's antics when the infamous Montreal riot delayed the concert.
Instead of Metallica opening, we got ex-Queen guitarist Brian May.
Still, it was a pivotal moment of my teen years. Too young to drink or drive, we put on our finest ripped jeans and hired a limo from the suburbs to the Coliseum so we could down Budweisers en route. It could have been the beer buzz, but GN'R put on the most fiery stadium show I've ever seen.
Chinese Democracy may actually come out some day, and even prove to be great. Axl appears slimmed-down and energized, and this tour has been getting better reviews than their last outing. Still, it doesn't really matter what Axl or even Velvet Revolver do nowadays.
Guns N' Roses' legacy is sound, because all these years later it remains absolutely physically impossible to hear Welcome to the Jungle without turning it up to 11.
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Couldn't agree more. I've seen and heard lots of 2002 bootlegs (though didn't get to see the band live) and lots of it sounds painful, even sad to hear. The transformation that's taken place for 2006 is nothing short of staggering and this new band can finally hold a candle to the old line-up. In relation to Nightrain 2002, Buckethead's solos at the end sound much more meoldic than Bumble's, but without the classic Axl voice it can never be as good as Nightrain '06; Rock Am Ring- one of the greatest versions of that song I've heard.
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If Axl was indeed putting the finishing touches on the album, I give up on this year. He said 26 of 32 songs were nearly done in January.
A while back management confirmed that once recording had finished GNR would of completed recording for two albums. Maybe the first was done a few weeks back?
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I have no doubt that Finck is a great songwriter and an excellent guitar player. I think he can pull of the solos and parts within songs extremely well. However I have issues with his solo guitar sections when playing live. They sound like he's making up as he's going, resembling someone sitting jamming at home rather than a rock star playing in front of 10,000+ rock fans. Sometimes it works well, but sometimes it sounds laboured and screws up the flow of the whole show.
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There's a bunch of great interactions between Axl and Tommy at that show. Watch November Rain and at one point you'll see Tommy sneak up behind Axl at the piano and pull a ridiculous face. A moment later it cuts back and Axl is cracking up. Later on when axl screws up Patience by singing the wrong verse, when the correct verse begins you see Tommy completely corpsing. It was great to see the band having a good time.
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That´s not the point for me, i would be really dissapointed if this is the final version, guns and roses always had more proffesional songs,
Eh, you have heard UYIs right? Half the songs sound either unfinished or just the band jamming.
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yeah I agree that his vocals were really rockin' that night but still... there was something missing in the intro of The Blues, you could even see in his eyes and the way he moved and sang during that intro he was like thinking: oh c'mon, isn't this intro gonna be over soon? I feel like a fool. or something like that.
but yeah, those preformance are really great, thanks for the help
Well something to remember here: The Rock In Rio III version has a faster tempo and diiferent arrangement so the intro would of passed quicker than on the newer versions.
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Hammerstein on the 14th- that's the raspiest I've heard him sing the opening. Also SECC, Glasgow- he was on fire singing it that night. The Novarock one is also quite good.
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http://release.theplatform.com/content.sel...linbroadcasting
try that. link must've been wrong.
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Sounded like it could be the studio. The bass was really thumping and it had a lot of clarity. Of course, it could of been the imsorry remaster. Difficult to tell from a low quality internet stream. Certainly wasn't the original leak from March or whenever it was.
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Isn't TWAT supposed to be the last track. Moaning bitches might not be a great addition to that song. Then again...I would do anything for you...OOOOOOOH!
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Anyone else think the Paradise City is much better? The music fits the images much more appropriately. They should make a new advert based around Better- say some guy ditching his cheating partner, getting onto his Harley and rifing off into the sunset; not a bunch of stray sheep!
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how do you know it's just a remaster?
Read the thread at CD.com. It's a cleaned version of the demo with added drums by a guy called imsorry.
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It wasn't. Just a remaster.
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It sounds..the...same
That was only a small portion. The studio version will have some extra sounds going on around the middle of the song. Although there you can here the drums are more pronounced and everything is a lot clearer.
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The demo sounds really murky. In this version you can pick everything out clearly and drums are really pounding!
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Is the clip on the Harley site yet? I can't see it...
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1.Chinese democracy
2.The Blues
3.Madagascar
4.Better
5.IRS
6.Catcher in the rye
7.There Was A Time
8.Sorry
9.TBA
10.TBA
11.TBA
12TBA
13.TBA
Ok, so this leaves us with only 5 more slots possibly. I assume that the song This I Love will be on the album. And what about Oklahoma? Silkworms? What else?
I think Rhiad has a good chance for two reasons:-
1) It was quoted by someone in the band as being a favourite of Axl's
2) It was a song they rehearsed for the European tour
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He said the same about Gilby I think in another statement. However neither Sorum or Gilby contributed to the songwriting process- they just played on parts other musicians wrote. The new band have all been contributing the new GNR material. I don't think it was a cheap dig, just a fact.
The New Piano Bit On Chinese Democracy Gives Me Shivers
in 2006
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Here is the BEST recording of the song at the moment:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ar825e
Remastered by someone (I've forgotten who, but he posted it on several of the boards) using the Donington Micpad bootleg and an audience recording. Nearest thing to soundboard you can get for the 2006 arrangement. Curiously, the song seems to have evolved more since this performance to the one we're discussing now. The latest arrangement seems to change the riff at the start of the second verse- pulls it kind of inside out.