Opax

I respect that 100%. In my eyes if Axl would perform with the old members it would be a huge slap in the face to the guys who have been in GNR since the late 90's early 2000's.

How is it a slap in the face when those old members are the reason the late 90s-current members are where they are right now? In a well known band, getting paid a handsome sum? Do not forget, all those guys after the original line up were paid musicians on a salary, on paper, it's just a gig to them. They could certainly hold deeper sentiments, but on black and white, if the check stops, so do they. The original GnR are the reason why these Guns N' Roses were inducted to the RNRHOF.

I concur

Wow don't post here much anymore but it seems to have become more Axl fans v Slash fans than ever before, I remember the good ol' days when "moreblack" and "Chris Axl" squaring off would be about as heated as it got.

In terms of selling out, who really cares?

Slash has got to put his kids through school and Axl has to pay for whatever it is he does in his spare time. Slash looks cool in the commercial and Axl sounds smooth in the video game clip, will watch the unedited video of

The Hard Rock is the coolest (not the best or biggest) casino and hotel in Las Vegas.

Icy cool and full of beautiful people.

I cant remember where I read this and it was probably a few years ago but I believe its only ever been played live twice.

I mean, Black Ice has 4 songs on the tracklisting that have the word "Rock" in there somewhere. Sheesh.

I know, that really is pretty lame.

Glad I got to see the originals including Richard at Live 8 a few years ago.

Badmotorfinger and Superunknown are two of my favourite albums, but this is a big disappointment, that song watch out is terrible, what was he thinking???

My favourite album is Hail to the Thief.

Layne Staley, easily the best vocalist with an impressive range.

Cornell is good too but he's kinda just a studio musician, his vocals live are poor.

Eddie Vedder is allright but has a tendancy to drone on a bit.

Kurt Cobain is average at best. His skill was not in singing but in writing.

Honorable mentions to Mark Lanegan who is amazing, Mark Arm's singing is pretty atrocious but he kinda defined grunge so got to be mentioned.

To the guy who said Andrew Wood, get out of hear, I mean I love a little bit of Mother Love Bone but hell theirs no way that can be considered grunge, at best its classic rock but it's really glam! In saying that check out "

I thought Strays was pretty good, especially the first half. I certainly wouldn't be opposed to having Janes Addiction back with Chris Chaney on base, that guy is one cool customer.

I love Pearl Jam, in fact I'm going to go listen to No Code right now.

Green Day... HAS NEVER DONE ANYTHING GROUND BREAKING.

Their entire legacy has been copycatting underground artists, and ripping off current styles. American Idiot was their 'emo' album.

Shut up. It wasn't an emo album whatsoever. It's called a concept, and Green Day nailed it. For a band who were previously famous for making hit 2-3 minute punk songs, the album was quite a sensation.

American Idiot being groundbreaking is perhaps not the best term, but it certainly had a massive impact on hard music in the 21st Century. The fact that a group like them can make a concept album with 9-minute songs, still have massive radio hits, and go over 10x platinum with an album in the age of downloading, is something else.

Not to be too crass but I'd hate to think what you consider a boner if you thought American Idiot was hard!

What do I think.

Couple of really groundbreaking albums have been named on here, take your pick from Portishead, Massive Attack or Radiohead. Sadly if you want to hear really groundbreaking stuff its not whats played on the radio, or even available at your local music store. Just about everything you here today is guaranteed to be an imitation of an imitation, thats not a bad thing at all, as David Bowie said in Zoolander "duplicate and elaborate".

They both suck equally.

They're garbage.

awful awful bands

Radiohead smokes all.

I think they are pretty solid, gotta say I love listening to them when in a certain mood.

Nine Inch Nails, its the original, who wants to hear some leathered old man sing a Trent Reznor song?

Other than Stonehenge these are the only Cornwell books I haven't read yet. I have Stonehenge but I should get the Starbuck series on Friday when I get paid. If it was me, I'd just read the Warlord Chronicles again.

Haven't read them, what are they about?

I'm a sucker for Bernard Cornwell books. Currently re-re-re-re-re-reading The Last Kingdom.

Thats cool dude. I'm coming to the end of my Sharpe Marathon, halfway through Waterloo at the moment and have read all the previous titles back to back for the second time. Thinking of doing the Starbuck Chronicals after this do you know anything about them?

The Doors totally blow.

AC/DC don't try to be anything they are not and thats awesome, they've stuck to the same formula for 35 years and it works.

Opax... dude... huh?

GN'R GOT INTO THIS BUSINESS/ART because of bands like The Stones, Queen, Zeppelin, etc.

And Ratt is better than Dokken by the way. Comparing Dokken to GN'R is just... dear God.

Yeah well I was just trying to point him down a different path, I'm sure he already knows about LZ, Stones and Queen, so I'm trying to let him no about bands that sound like GN'R (to a degree) not bands that GN'R got inspiration from (who also don't necessarily sound anything like GN'R)

Okay dude, alot of people in this thread are just stating obvious big rock bands that have little or nothing in common with the GNR sound that you crave. Sadly no other band out their will fill the void GNR has left, however I got a few albums for you that might get close to the dizzying heights you require.

Bad Company - Holy Water (None of the Paul Rodgers stuff this is Brian Howe howling vocals and dirty guitars all over it)

Dokken - Back for the Attack (Grubby 80's Heavy Metal band in similar vain to GNR a bit darker and nastier, unsung heroes of the 80's without a doubt sold millions of albums and people still lump them in with the likes of Ratt, Warrant and Posion which they certainly are not)

The Glitterati - The Glitterati (Modern English band who have unashamably ripped of the GNR sound to the extreme, it actually sounds like Slash and Duff are playing on that record, granted the singer is no Axl and leaves a lot to be desired, but check them out all the same and dream of the Top-Hatted one busting out all the wah wah lead!)

Thanks for that link Estranged Reality, good to see people sharing the quality music.

Yeah i quite dig that track, very slick. Not so sure about that background (Ah-ah Ah-ah) vocals!

I prefer the loud symphony styles.

Go for Beethoven's 5th of 9th, 7th also decent.

Also try Tchaikovsky's 1812.

Whats with the top hat Mick Mars has been wearing lately, its been done.

when they finished their album, they had it pressed and sent to stores. it was really that simple. one day out of nowhere they put out a press release saying they'd finished their album and that it would be in stores on tuesday on CD, LP, and download. fans who prefer a physical release weren't forced to listen to shitty mp3s for months while waiting for the CD/LP. there were no limited editions, international bonus tracks, itunes pre-order exclusives, best buy/circuit city/FYE downloads, etc. they just cut out all the crap and got their album into the hands of their fans as quickly as possible and didn't force fans to wait longer for their preferred format.

Was their any hype for the album, pre-release?

I think The Raconteurs plan should be the benchmark really.

bingo. for all the attention radiohead and nine inch nails received . . . nobody has come close to topping what the raconteurs did.

Did I miss something, what did the Raconteurs do?