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Here is a Chinese Democracy solo I recorded on a fretless guitar and over a terribly redone backtrack...poorly mixed
good good
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Hey!
Mixes with no guitars of almost every song of Chinese Democracy are floating around the Internet. Wouldn't be cool if we record new solos for the CD songs and share the final versions?
It would be cool to see for example This I Love with a brand new solo!
Thoughts?
Id love to hear any other solo on chinese democracy, how about the blues, scraped, rhiad?
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Ive heard alot of players can get overwhelmed easily while studying there. Its a place for theoriests, and shredders, jazz fanatics and washed up players.
However, if you do somehow soak up somewhat of an education, it can really help you understand the language of music better.
Just grab as much information as you can before they can flunk you.
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BucketSlash is right on.
It is easy to get overwhelmed. Maybe not where you wanted to go, but understand that you only sound like yourself. You can never sound like anyone else so don't be discouraged if you can't play such and such solo or song exactly as it was recorded.
This is what I hate about playing guitar:
People who have never played a note in their lives judge your ability based upon how you play other people's songs. Or if you can play by "ear." Can you play any song instantly just by hearing it once? "My nephew can." Or, "I knew a guy who could."
No. I can't. Sorry. It probably took them years to do so. At the least, hours upon hours upon hours in short amount of time. You do have to teach your fingers to move, you know. Then you have to teach your ear to hear. Then you have to teach your fingers and your ear to work together to translate the sound you hear into the sound you play and where to put your fingers on the fretboard in order to do so accurately.
At the very least they are playing the cheap version of songs. That is easy to do and can fool a lot of untrained ears.
Correct me if I'm wrong, anybody, but aren't modes just another type of plug and play like major and minor (these are modes themselves, are they not?) You just remeber the scale for Phrygian, for example, and where the root is and plug in on the fretboard based upon which key you are in. No?
Modes are like...sleeping with a foreign version of your girlfriend. You use them right, it's new, exotic, and comes with new multicultural kinkiness. You can use them like you would a normal scale( subbing them in on a scale with the same key), and it's a smooth, easy transition that the audiance will only feel a hint of flavor for.
However, when you want to use modes to go crazy, you use them in the place of a major or minor scale(don't act so suprised. Bluesmen minor solo over major progression all the time)
Now I won't tab all this out, but I'll give the basics
To get each mode, you take a major scale and lower these notes(not frets, but notes, for example, C being 1, d being 2, e being 3, etc)
Lydian-Raise 4(use this over a major progression.)
Mixolydian-Lower 7(a cheaper dorian, used mainly over major with the lowered 7 for a blues inflection)
Dorian-Lower 3 and 7(The extended blues scale. Not really major because of the lowered 3 but not really minor because of the 6)
Aeolian-Lower 3,6,7(your minor scale)
Phrygian-Lower 2,3,6,and 7 (really funky one. I love experimenting with it. Hear it on the stones classic "Time Waits for no one" on the solos)
Locrian- Barely used anymore due to popular opinion of it being a-tonal. I throw it in, but it's really an expert's only scale, as it plain out sounds wrong. Use it minor only. Lower 2,3,5,6, and 7.
It seems that although learning scales like this in themselves are not too difficult, using them the right way and keeping an ear out for specific chord changes
and hitting the right notes will take time to master. The personalities of each scale fits certain "moments" in songs. Also learning what chords these scales can be played over.
Its definatly a journey, but im excited as much as I am frustrated. Music is my only real passion, as a career I don't know if I can find somthing that can get me enough money to live on.
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Let me give you the speedy "Better guitarist in 20 minutes or it's free" master class
It's about finding a shape and keeping to it.
For example, Every minor scale can be applied like this
D------------------1-3----
A-------1-3-4-----------
E-1-3-4------------------
This is an F minor scale. From there you just move the tonic(fret one on F). The where you start your other scale For example, A minor is
D--------------5-7-----
A-------5-7-8----------
E-5-7-8---------------
Your diatonic major is:
D------------0-2-3---
A-----0-1-3---------
E-1-3---------------
now, I haven't played a person's solo note for note in my life(gotten in a few arguments from people over covers). But what I can tell you is instead of playing things note for note, take your minor pentatonic, and throw on your favorite songs. Play with the recording like your there, not note for note, but your own thing. Don't get discouraged, because at the end it's only you there, and develop your own lead guitar style. It's never hurt me, and right now I'm a college lead guitarist in our jazz rock big band.
Thanks for the tips! Sometimes for me finding a good backing track that isn't too boring helps me to just play the way I want. I always have respect for jazz musicians too.
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Ive been playing for about a good seven years on guitar, I know a tiny bit of theory and have taken lessons on and off throughout my life. Ive studied lead guitar (seriously) for about three years now and have come to a serious plateau.
Ive memorized all five pentatonic and blues positions as well as natural minor scale positions, Im pretty comfortable. However, Ive never ever been able to play them in any key fluidly, and find myself getting lost almost all the time on the neck. I also have been working on diatonic major scales for seven months and still havent been able to get those mastered either.
If anyone could give me some advice to help me progress and get over this serious stump I will greatly apreciate it. I really want to move on, learn the rest of the modes and be a great lead player.
dont want to be stuck in the blues box...
This is exactly why I don't memorize much of any of this stuff. You can know all the theory in the world and get stuck anyway. It is good to understand how it works but lead is about feel. If you don't have the feel it is tough to learn it. Most of all rock solos are in the blues box anyway. You will be in good company. Maybe you should learn some licks in the pentatonic scales. Play other people's solos and leads. You'll get a lot of ideas this way. Don't feel like you are being cheap either by copying. There isn't anything you can come up with that hasn't already been done.
Or if you are writing solos you can just noodle around like David Gilmour until you find parts you like and then splice them together. This is my prefered method. Doesn't work as well for imporvising with others, though.
Santana has been playing the same lead for 30 years now. Works for him
Thanks lol, love the santana comment
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Ive been playing for about a good seven years on guitar, I know a tiny bit of theory and have taken lessons on and off throughout my life. Ive studied lead guitar (seriously) for about three years now and have come to a serious plateau.
Ive memorized all five pentatonic and blues positions as well as natural minor scale positions, Im pretty comfortable. However, Ive never ever been able to play them in any key fluidly, and find myself getting lost almost all the time on the neck. I also have been working on diatonic major scales for seven months and still havent been able to get those mastered either.
If anyone could give me some advice to help me progress and get over this serious stump I will greatly apreciate it. I really want to move on, learn the rest of the modes and be a great lead player.
dont want to be stuck in the blues box...
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Check this out :
Is it me or the chorus sounds exactly like the beginning of 14 years ?
Even the lyrics are almost identical
Thats awful in every sense of the word....
StAnDEn In ThE RAYYNN!!
pitifull
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anyone seen primer?
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Check this out :
Is it me or the chorus sounds exactly like the beginning of 14 years ?
Even the lyrics are almost identical
Wow, thats...
thats plagerism right there...
How did you find that?
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Oh, a bitter middle aged tough guy on the internet.
How I hope you don't make a mom joke!
Oh god, another ignorant teenager trying to be witty on the internet
Thumbs up
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Wow, yeah Hendrix shouldn't be #1 and Slash sure as fuck shouldn't be #2. Maybe in the top 20.
Maybe in blues guitarist categories this would make sense, it just seems so unbalanced, keith richards is not at all a proficient lead guitar guy, its not a list to be taken serously i guess.
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When you say, the worst year for music, that could mean alot of different things.
If you mean the worst time for the music industry, that would probably be between 2001-now
the worst time for music in general would probably be in the middle ages to dark ages, no joke
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If I didn't know that was about Axl, I'd say that was pretty awesome.
*Kudos*
I agree
I completly agree, I would have probably enjoyed it a whole lot more if I didn't know that it was about Axl.
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If you get the chance, and have some time on your hands, check out this band.
they have guitar solos that dont suck!
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The first album I ever bought was Back in Black by AC/DC and my most recent album was Quadrophenia by The Who
How about you?
My first album ever bought for myself, was curiously Bon Jovi, slipperly when wet.
my most recent one was Beautiful Creatures.
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