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Eddie Trunk: “Rock Stars do not want to meet you” and says fans are like cattle to bands

Eddie Trunk Radio Show — In a recent episode of the Eddie Trunk Radio Show, the host talks in depth about rock stars and their fans.

Trunk boldly states; “They do not want to meet you.”

Trunk is outspoken on all things rock n’ roll, and has his hands deep into the industry.

Most known for his connection to the band Kiss, and more directly Ace Frehley – Trunk goes into detail about meet n’ greet packages and explains why 90% of the rock stars out there do not want to meet their fans.

“Some people (rock stars), quite frankly, don’t wanna meet you” a giggling Trunk tells the listeners.

“I’ve said this before you guys, and I’m just being honest about it. These guys don’t want to meet you (laughing). Don’t take it personally, but they don’t.” adds Trunk

“They do not, want to meet you. Hate to break that to you. But they don’t. Yes, you are valuable fans to them, but you are also a total stranger, and they don’t want to meet you. But they are gonna do it (referring to paid meet n’ greets), because, it’s gonna mean some extra money. They’re gonna put the best face on, and do it.” says Trunk

Trunk talks about emails he receives daily from fans complaining about their meet n’ greet experience.

Trunk immitates a fans email saying; “I bought the VIP, the guy was a total dick He didn’t even look me in the eye. We got moved in and out like cattle.”

Trunk then adds: “Because, hate to tell you, but that’s kind of like, what you are to them.”

“But hey, you gonna pay a couple hundred bucks, alright, I’ll give you your 30 seconds.” adds Trunk as he refers to the meet n’ greet costs.

http://metalsludge.tv/fans-cattle-eddie-trunk-rock-stars-do-not-want-to-meet-you-and-says-fans-are-like-cattle-to-bands/

6 hours ago, Tom2112 said:

Nah... that's a myth that fans and journalists like to throw out there... right up until a band or artist 30/40/50 years comes out with a cracker of a record and then there's no mention of "their rich, their old" etc. yes hunger and youth have a role to play, but once you turn 40/50/60 etc. that doesn't mean you forget how to write a song... if that's the case explain Bowie, Johnny cash, Paul McCartney, Toto, Robert Plant and many, many more old(er) rich and famous bands and artists that still put out good music in their old age. 

My point is that there are MANY motivations behind making music, and just because you're initial reason when you were 20 was this that or the other - it doesn't mean that maturity and wealth stops you from growing and developing as an artist and gaining new motivations. Some people just love the satisfaction of writing a better song than the last one they wrote.

 

Good points.

my doubt is if this is Axl’s case...

17 minutes ago, shjtjustgotreal said:

lmao 27 pages??

yeah.

27 pages of nothing.

judging by the hundreds of posts in this topic ... "all things considered"... you should make a collective contribution to steven, each of you to deposit some money for him, and organize a schedule of shows with the presence of all of you supporting him.

4 minutes ago, MyPrettyTiedUpMichelle said:

This thread...at first I was 

Now I've lost track of what you're all arguing about in the first place. 

Remember shortly after the tour ended we predicted the radio silence would drive us all crazy before June?  Ya reckon we've reached peak insanity yet, or is the worst yet to come? 

Yes, that's it. one of the worst topics among the worst, for sure.

what more?

drugs? adler? frank? duff's book? slash's book?

all this useless talk is no use.
the boss wants Frank on the drums. end

this is what happens when the artist does not present new materials ...
the fans get lost in a meaningless conversation, in the lack of what to do or to listen ...

5 minutes ago, IncitingChaos said:

I’m interested to see what kind of sacrifices Axl makes for ACDC. I think his appearances will be changing quite a bit in the next year or so. Healthy Axl is likely on the way. 

Sacrifices? AXL????

13 minutes ago, Modano09 said:

No I'm saying they were all drug addicts/abusers but one of them was such a shameless trainwreck he was doing reality shows about it 20 years later. 

it makes sense what you say.
a good opportunity to close the subject, and who knows the topic.

continue on tour eternally, with this same setlist

2 hours ago, Fashionista said:

Let's be honest here, if we ever get a new GN'R record it would probably be some really horrible combination of the worst of Slash's bland modern rock tendencies, and the worst of Axl's balladry. It would be a compromise, safe record, with little real bite or danger to it. GN'R by numbers. Basically, go listen to Steel Wheels, that's what a new GN'R album would sound like - something like that. You have a bunch of guys who are closer to 60 than 50. You're not going to get an AFD II - that would be plumb embarrassing at their age. I don't think Axl has any more Estranged or November Rain type epics in him - he's not a young guy with fire in his belly. Slash isn't either. I dread new GN'R material because it wouldn't be coming from an organic, back against the wall place.

AFD and the UYIs were great because they were written and recorded under a mountain of pressure - AFD was the band desperately wanting to be the biggest in the world - they were all 100% dedicated toward this one goal - the UYIs were the band against the wall now not only dealing with the ramifications of being the biggest band in the world, but struggling to keep the whole thing together. There's no such conflict or tension to make a new album interesting.

great post

at the beginning:

Hard Rock, Blues Rock,Punk Rock

currently: a mess

"all things considered"...

this topic paid off a lot ... and went too far ...

6 minutes ago, RONIN said:

It's always a double standard here.

Basically if you're not Axl/Slash - you need to be damn near perfect or a lot of fans will discredit you depending on the whims of their dear leaders. If Axl (or Slash) were on good terms with Steven you would see an instant about-face from half the people here.

If Duff wasn't a partner, I'd love to see what the comments here would be like supporting his exclusion. I can take a stab:

"Who cares about an ex-alcoholic has-been who releases crap solo albums and peddles his book and connection to punk rock to anyone who will listen. He's just in it for the money since he's a businesssman now."

Currently Steven is just a junkie who is always whining about the past. Funny because Slash was arguably a bigger junkie that also whined about Axl and GnR from 1995-2012. Remember his Velvet Revolver press tour for Contraband and all the whining he did about Axl and old GnR? But that guy wasn't living in the past, only Steven. Slash is still the same stuck in the past cock rocker he always was. Versatility isn't his strong-suit. He's not that different from Mullethead Steve. Just a better networker and businessman. But lets pretend otherwise. 

As for Izzy being unreliable - consider the irony of the statement given Axl's past.

Who was the first guy to submit his material for Use Your Illusion? Who was the guy showing up to rehearsals and gigs first for Illusions? He quit in part because he was sick of being the only guy who gave a shit enough to bother showing up early. He was also sick of being the only guy in the band who cared about the fans and wanted to actually learn new songs for them when the redhead was running off to his psychic 30 minutes into a show.  Izzy being a flake and Izzy honoring his commitments are not mutually exclusive. If he's contractually obligated, he'll be there or he gets a gigantic fine (like what Axl would face now if he tried his old tricks again).

Just have the decency to admit that you're on Team Axl or Slash and that the others aren't as important to you. At least that's a valid reason for your opinion. But throwing the other guy under the bus for reasons like being a broken record, or talking too much (yeah - that's the problem in this band, people talk way too much), or him being a junkie, getting injured, not being reliable, etc just seem like lame excuses. 

Also - how hard would it have been for these guys who have raked in tens of millions to throw the fans a bone and give them a single AFD 5 show - they could have even done it at the Troubador and been done with it. At least the stuck in the past fanbase who bought 30 million copies of AFD would have gotten a decent send-off party. And these are the people some of you are defending. People who don't give a fuck about the fans. Whatever Steven or Izzy are - as per Marc Canter, they've actively sought to reunite the band in the past - moreso than the other 3. And Izzy does not need the money unlike Steve or any of the other 3 - he's just fine without GnR as we can all see. 

The two GnR former members that actually are interested in fan service are ironically the two people who get bagged by fans here. Classic. And for the record, Adler is not my favorite GnR drummer and I think the guy is annoying. But the level of disrespect and lack of perspective is surprising here. It is what it is folks. Is it that hard to believe that Axl,Slash and Duff cut out these two former members to maximize their profits? So it's more believable that Adler's back injury/annoying personality and Izzy's "reliability issues" are the main reasons they're not in this reunion? Really? 

great post

Steve Vai gave the idea of Axl Rose recording new music with AC/DC a bug thumbs up, saying on The Blairing Out Show (transcribed by UG):

"I think that'd be fantastic! Don't you? I mean, AC/DC can't make any mistakes, they're perfect. [Laughs] And Axl is one of the quintessential frontmen, and he's also an incredible singer.

"I've worked with [producer] Mike Clink, who worked with Axl on 'Appetite for Destruction.' He said Axl would just come in and nail it in first take. There's so much connectedness in the way he sings, I think that'd be fantastic."

Steve's attitude seems to be a stark contrast of Def Leppard guitarist Phil Collen's stance, who recently told 96.9 The Eagle:

"No. I'm a huge AC/DC fan, and if the whole band's left or gone... Malcolm dead, obviously. Brian Johnson got kicked out. Cliff Williams retired and Phil Rudd got arrested.

"You've got one person

As a massive Guns N' Roses fan, Fall Out Boy bassist Pete Wentz was asked by Music Feeds for his take on how the band should approach a hypothetical new album, to which he replied:

"What I think 100% is that I don't believe Guns N' Roses can do another 'Appetite for Destruction,' just like Fall Out Boy cannot do another [2003's] 'Take This to Your Grave.' Once your life is changed and you have kids... I think it would be really hard to re-box that...

"What I think would be really cool - I think it would be really cool to see one of the bigger heavy bands do something with like, Skrillex or Knife Party. 'Cause they're clearly influenced by it and it seems like something that would work really, really well together."

After the interviewer said that Skrillex opened one of the shows during GN'R's ongoing tour, Pete added:

"Oh they did, didn't they? Hey, so it could organically happen. It just seems that's the way... 'Cause there are two dangers - the danger that you stay the same forever and your thing gets smaller and more quaint. But there's also the danger of jumping the shark and just latching onto whatever's popular. But I think if you work with somebody that you organically have a relationship with, maybe you'll just come up with something that's kind cool and different."

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/fall_out_boy_guns_n_roses_should_record_their_new_album_with_skrillex_or_knife_party.html

3 minutes ago, killuridols said:

yeah because surely Frank and Melissa calling Steven "friend" really means FRIEND to them

I prefer a guy like Steven, speaking out his mind, than these fakes calling him "friend" when we all know they are just prostituting that word.

great post. I agree.
these two are two "nobody", and to say the least they are opportunistic.

4 minutes ago, Sosso said:

It's still disrespectful, especially when you consider that Frank has called him a "friend".

and why do you think frank and melissa deserve all that respect?

5 minutes ago, StrangerInThisTown said:

Always the same discussion, same posts, same threads everytime Steven repeats this same thing. He said he doesn't want to guest for a couple songs anymore and he realized that Axl is not gonna let go of Frank and Fortus anytime soon, so who can blame him for telling it like it is when he got nothing to lose..? Just like many fans he himself is disappointed Axl couldn't let go of the nugnr guys to make room for a AFD5 tour. If he knew he had any chance to get back in he'd shut up, and even that would be sort of morally questionable because IMHO all band members should be able to speak what they think. But no you can't upset King Axl in any way or you get locked out. Haha..

a constant in the GNR world:

more of the same

8 minutes ago, default_ said:

I actually believe on the contrary. I think Ashba had way more to musically and personally do with GNR than the other two. Even with all the bullshit.

I believed and still believe in Ashba's potential.
What caught him was that he soon realized that he would be eternally participating in an act of nostalgia.

1 minute ago, Sosso said:

#BringPitmanBack

The sound of the band became a mess.
In fact, IMO, the band only needs Dizzy as a keyboardist, and yet not in all songs.

6 minutes ago, RONIN said:

Great post. I wouldn't have agreed with you 10 years ago, but hindsight has proven this to be true. You have to put stuff out there instead of getting caught in your head. Axl disappeared up his own ass in the name of "artistry". I imagine he probably was shocked by how his "complex" music like Estranged was lost in the shuffle while simple 3-4 minute grunge songs with just a muddy sounding guitar were all the rage back then. You have this guy who has an incredibly dynamic voice with tons of range like an opera singer - he's already considered one of the best frontmen/singers ever so early in his career - and he's writing 10 minute songs with deeply introspective lyrics, an orchestra, multiple instruments - basically he's already approaching his music like a near-auteur by Illusions after a single (legendary) album. He's at the top of his game. And he's seeing himself passed on the charts by guys like Kurt Cobain (who neither has Axl's vocal range nor is a flashy frontman/entertainer). It must have burned him. Sometimes less is more. And I don't think Axl has ever understood this. 

 

Agreed and those are all fair points but I think the "evolving as an artist" goes out the window when you start chasing trends and trying to be something you're not which imho is what Axl did. He didn't trust his own vision and second guessed himself. It didn't help that during the mid-90's, he was a figure of ridicule with his peers.

If you like industrial music that doesn't mean you should now do that kind of stuff because you think you will be awesome at it. Doing your own thing and evolving naturally is different from "NIN is awesome. I love Trent. I want to do similar stuff like that. I love Nirvana's drumming. I want the drums on my songs to sound like Dave Grohl's drumming. I love electronic music and that's really hot right now - I want Moby to be my producer." That's just derivative hackery. He went beyond just being influenced by his favorite music - he actually tried to hire people from his favorite bands to emulate the sounds of those bands. I think Axl was at the top of his game in the 90's and he could have put out an incredible album then (with or without Slash) but he was too obsessed with chasing fads and it paralyzed him from releasing anything. Oh my God is a perfect example of that. By the time that song came out, it was already late to the party. People were onto the next trend. God knows how many things were started/revised and then scrapped once Axl had moved onto his next muse. 

I think he may have understood this eventually by 2000/2001 when RTB came onboard as a producer. The songs start to evolve back to a more "classic" feel. But in '94, nobody could convince him he was heading in the wrong direction.

this

The GNR world only exists in our heads.
Are we satisfied with our world in general, and how are our lives?

Does anyone here remember any chorus of some song from slash's latest cd? right now?