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You do not need to be their sponsor, if they find interest, they will support you no matter what.

Like Dolce Vele for example, the biggest media crap ever.

There is no need to post pro Ukraine side of the story when you're there and bunch of others.
CNN favor one side, just like RT.
That shooting story was Catherine Ashton dialogue with some guy...I think it was important.

It's war, there are propaganda stories on both sides. I do not claim that anything is true. But your attitude mostly looks like "My claims are unquestionable truth and any other side of the story is Putin-inspired lie."

After all, do not kill the messenger.

believe it or not, but here in Ukraine everyone understands the big game of geopolitics and we know there are no friends only common interests, thank for the enlightenment

what happened in Odessa is a crime and it is being investigated

Gaddafi shot down a plane over Lockerbie. rings a bell? but the current situation in Libya has nothing to do with Putin's hybrid war against Ukraine

oh yeah, i remember your taken out of ass posts in the first Ukraine thread, about Ukrainians fleeing in Russia and leaders of the opposition shooting their own people, and spreading all kinds of pro-Russia BS, so im not surprised at all

Yeah, it was very fair to demonize Russia and to post mostly one-sided stories. Someone had to convey another side of the story, in the name of democracy, that's what you're fighting for, right?

Russia has refugees from Ukraine, I guess mostly Russian nationality, but they are Ukrainian citizens.

Anyone remember how the US shot down an Iranian passenger airliner? Probably not, because when you're a superpower you get away with that shit. And Russia is pretty much back to being a superpower.

i remember how Soviets shot down a passenger plane and the world imposed all kinds of sanctions on them. USSR collapsed in just a couple of years.

USSR was a superpower, Russia is not

nearly half of Russia's foreign trade is with the countries whose citizens were murdered in that airplane. and Netherlands are their largest export partner.

let's see if the governments of those countries are ready to sell all those deaths for the Russian cookies

Siberia Airlines Flight 1812 was shot down by the Ukrainian military over the Black Sea on 4 October 2001, en route from Tel Aviv, Israel toNovosibirsk, Russia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberia_Airlines_Flight_1812

You actually make potentially a "third world war battlefield" of Ukraine.

You know that Russia will not look at it with folded arms and it's completely understandable.

No, demonstrating all shades of "deep concern" and doing nothing makes Ukraine a battlefield and impends WW 3. letting a local dictator feel unpunished and do whatever he pleases will sooner or later make him bored. he will want more. and this is already happening. where are you from? Eastern/Central Europe? you will be surprised

only Putin is dumb enough to give his monkey the grenade called Buk

Funny, sad and true all at once.

The cries of terrorism over this are bullshit, these dumb asses obviously didn't mean to shoot down a civilian airliner but they have.

if local dictator limits his appetites and commits crimes only inside of his own country, the world expresses "deep concern" and doesn't give a shit. but the day dictator goes international - it's a beginning of the end. North Korean dictators understand it. Gaddafi, Houssein and others didn't. Putin is going down, the only question is how much time it will take and how many victims there will be in the process

I am not here to represent anybody's interest but the uniformity and automatic finger-pointing at Russia and Putin as the greatest evil is ridiculous. Russia has its own interests as well as the West. That's the only reason why they support you from day one. They will support ANYONE who is against Russia.

I have not seen any post here about burning people alive in Odessa, is that a crime? Not if you're West's ally. If I remember correctly, the crisis in Libya was within the borders in Libya? Now, compare situation in Libya now and under Gaddafi.

I am somewhere between Central and Southeast Europe. When you mention, people here have experienced several aggression and terrible crimes that came from Central Europe countries and every time Russia and Ukraine at that time were alias in the resistance. So I don't expect anything bad from Russia, sorry.

You actually make potentially a "third world war battlefield" of Ukraine.

You know that Russia will not look at it with folded arms and it's completely understandable.

I hate to pick a favorite song, solo...so, one of the better ones that comes to my mind

West wants NATO bases and missile shields near Russian border and this may be the perfect excuse.

The main question is, if the Ukrainian authorities knew that the separatists have long-range air defense system, why they did not close the airspace?

The best military expert that I know claim that the separatist do not have such a system. If the plane was hit by "Buk" system, there is no possibility of mistake, whoever did this knew it was a passenger plane. There are two options, Russian or Ukrainian army, they both have "Buk" system. In the first case the Russian army would have to enter in eastern Ukraine.
Also very important to consider, which side this corresponds to, who gets victim status and broad international support. In these cases such support can make the difference between victory and defeat.

No. America needs to stay the hell out of global affairs.

yea, just look the other way, all of this terror stuff will just go away by itself, no worries

And you will bring peace and happiness...

Dash
Shadow
Old
Thought I Could Fly
Apathy
Meat
She Knows
Myth
A Way Out
Wasted Away
Tuesday In Nancy
Normal
Hands
Real
Turn Around
Overloaded
Breaking
Awake
I Hate Me More Than I Love You
Shell
Shrunk
Guitars Suck
Fly In The Batter

In no particular order...

Matt was and still is the perfect drummer for GnR. He played with perfect accuracy and timing and that's the most important thing for drummer in GnR. That's why I don't like the way Frank plays, he improvise too much and therefore songs don't have the same or completely lose their feeling.

GnR songs needs to be played the way they were recorded or with minimum (well adapted) improvisation, especially classics.

Also, Frank plays the intro wrong...

I was there, fifth row on the center and I didn't notice anything. I guess I stared at Axl.

I don't know what really happened, but was funny. I just watched the dvd a few days ago. Pretty cool recording!

During Welcome To the Jungle Robin threw his micstand and also Tommy's and Richard's micstands.

The crew guys put everything in place, but then during Mr. Brownstone Robin threw his micstand again. Tom Mayhue seemed pissed off too

I'm looking for this DVD for years. Is there download link somewhere? If not, can you upload?

Are you from Hungary?

That happens when you're charged up and ready to go onstage to perform for thousands of people but your singer makes the whole lot of you wait four or five hours before taking the stage...or so I've heard.

We waited 3 and a half hours for the concert...A lot of people going home and ask their money back...Axl's back is in pain so he have to get cured or something like this...He wasn't even arrived in the country when the official start time comes, lol

No, but I am close.

I waited from 18 to 23:30 in line, that was painful. I have Jungle, Brownstone, Better, Madagascar, Don't Cry, LALD and Pradise City videos with Critical Solution mark and audio bootleg. You?

We even have a Belgian mascotte in the audience called "Axelle" (I kid you not), apparently she gained a following after last game:

She is only...

I was there, fifth row on the center and I didn't notice anything. I guess I stared at Axl.

I'm looking for this DVD for years. Is there download link somewhere? If not, can you upload?

No, but since they became members of the band they would have to know how to play every GnR song.

With musical skills Ron clearly stand out from the rest. It will be irreparable damage if he leaves.

Axl and Ron are my favorite members...I just can't imagine my favorite band with Ashba as the only lead guitarist.

Some new videos posted a little while ago. I suck at life and still don't know how to embed:

Chinese Democracy/WTTJ http://youtu.be/Tr6MbvQBS9I

Its So Easy http://youtu.be/P0mAZxSxpeU

Rocket Queen http://youtu.be/84rkv0F3keQ

User is still in the process of uploading clips.

RQ is pretty good! especially the 2nd half.

Definitely, just this part should be "I haaaaate to seeee you" >>>>>>> "I ha-te to see you".

Comon, he sounds really good. Improvement is evident.

A lot of really talented people here, great job. Congrats to all of you!

A friend of mine who was a big GNR fan at that time showed me the first Better leak

At that point i came here, just lurking, and mining out new infos, the leaks etc.

This was a few days before the 2006 tour starts

I still remember hearing Better for the first time live in 2006 may 31, good times

Here's Madagascar from that night

I was there, my first GnR concert. I waited in line from 6 pm to 11:30 pm, it was brutal.

At the time I didn't use internet, so the only new GnR video I had was Knocking on heavens door from Rock in Rio that I tapped on VHS from TV and VH1's Behind the Music show. I had completely different perspective about the band, I though that Axl changed singing style. Then, when GnR finally come on stage that night, it was completely different band for me. Axl was completely different person, I didn't recognize Robin, I didn't know who Richard and Ron were, Buckethead wasn't there, the only familiar face was Tommy to me. I really liked Axl's new style and band generally. That night I heard Better, The Blues and Madagascar for the first time. I recorded piece of Better on my phone and played over and over again. I was impressed. Few weeks latter I got Better, IRS and The Blues from Rock Am Ring and low quality IRS demo and Chinese Democracy.

Happy birthday!