AdriftatSea

How exciting!! So happy for you ZoSo and P5!! 

That's funny! 

Thanks @Slash787 The band was fantastic, the crowd was fantastic. We were on row 10, middle section A3 on the floor. In a city where ppl don't speak to each other everyone acted as though they were family. It was beautiful, 

Thanks @MB.

9 hours ago, PappyTron said:

@AdriftatSea You seem like a nice person, so don't take this the wrong way, but you're coming off as slightly unhinged at the moment. This is just my opinion, but everyone here has been nice, both to each other and in terms of the subject, so I don't think that anyone has intended to get you riled up. It''s just my suggestion, but maybe take what people such as Highvoltage have said in the good spirit that they were intended and not in the negative way that you have received them. Nobody here is negative towards you and I'm sure that we all appreciate that domestic violence and celebrity are both complex issues with personal interpretations. Maybe take a step back from the thread as the subject is obviously important to you.

 

No one is negative? You must not be reading the same thread. Someone wrote it's ppl like me that make others not speak out. That was absolutely brutal. Someone else said my comments were disgusting. Another told me I had no right to speak my opinion. People here have not been nice. I'm not unhinged. I'm pissed off. They're are some real dirt bags on the site. Not sure how you skipped over their posts. Thanks for reaching out to me Pappy. You are one of the good guys. 

Bet you grew up in a world where everyone got a trophy and now you are just so stinking mad! 

Got the msg! Lol

26 minutes ago, highvoltage said:

There is no insult in the post you quoted, but I can see it's pointless trying to explain this to you as you've ignored the majority of my post anyway. 

You deleted the post I was responding to, so I can't quote it - but if you don't "need or want sympathy", I suggest you don't use what happened to you as a trump card to try and support your misguided views. YOU were the one complaining about not being able to "speak up" back in the day, don't blame me for interpreting that as resentment - it sure looked like it to me, and I wasn't the only one who used that exact word to describe it.

Childishly deleting the post removes the context from what I was responding to - so well done to you there.

I shouldn't have deleted it but your words were.... I don't want to insult you but....   So there is that

my name was in the comment so I deleted it. It doesn't matter. MB has helped me see differently. Your insults have made me see you differently. So that is that. 

13 minutes ago, highvoltage said:

There is no insult in the post you quoted, but I can see it's pointless trying to explain this to you as you've ignored the majority of my post anyway. 

You deleted the post I was responding to, so I can't quote it - but if you don't "need or want sympathy", I suggest you don't use what happened to you as a trump card to try and support your misguided views. YOU were the one complaining about not being able to "speak up" back in the day, don't blame me for interpreting that as resentment - it sure looked like it to me, and I wasn't the only one who used that exact word to describe it.

Childishly deleting the post removes the context from what I was responding to - so well done to you there.

I deleted a post where I listed my Twitter account and my name. The rest of your post here is rubbish.  I admitted I was wrong. You are just going on about nothing now. You like to listen to yourself talk. I said I was wrong. Give it a rest. 

21 hours ago, highvoltage said:

Sure, there is absolutely a generational thing there - you see the same thing with people who have been sexually abused being far more willing to talk about it nowadays than they were in the past. 

My issue now is that you are trying to justify your misplaced views by projecting a. your own experience onto hers and b. your personal fantasies about who the real "Johnny Depp" is into the situation.

I have sympathy for your own experiences and applaud you for getting through it - but you were far too quick to judge Amber here. Instead of continually trying to justify your views, just admit it was wrong and move on. Women like you SHOULD believe women like her, instead of instantly assuming she is some lying gold-digger because she had the balls to speak out publicly. 

Forgive me for this comment, but it almost seems like you are resenting the fact that she was able to go public while you had to suffer in silence. You should be celebrating that times have changed.

I never resented her. Thank you Armchair Psychologist. Maybe you should try Tarot Cards in order to understand others better as you clearly have no first-hand or professional knowledge of this subject matter. I do forgive you because it's my understanding sometimes the most sensitive ppl can be the cruelest. I don't need any sympathy from anyone and especially then followed up by an insult.

I refer you to my reply to MB above. 

9 hours ago, MB. said:

She did act like a battered woman in the vid. Totally trying to smooth things over. Actually it annoyed me, she did behave like a victim. I hate bad drunks. Go be a bad drunk somewhere else. I trash the kitchen for you, I would save you the effort. Oh, but that makes me an abuser myself right? Whatever, I don't  really see mental abuse in this vid, just an annoying drunk. But if this behaviour was a daily or weekly routine, it totally is. Seeing her reaction, it was a routine and therefor he probably was an abuser to her.

Heard donated all the money, think it's very cool of her and that makes me believing her. Also Depp acts like a total loser in this vid, lost a lot of respect for him. He is over 50, grow up! Think if you are as famous and loved as Depp was, you lose sight of reality and think everybody has to do exactly what you want. Guess that's why he turned into a major dick. I am just guessing, so not sure if this is true.

Thank you for your well thought out and articulate post and for not insulting me here. When I started this topic my intent was to get others thoughts on the matter at hand. Not insults and copy/paste from the Internet. What with her giving the money away and your clear observations I'm certainly leaning to believe as you do.  

When I'm insulted I don't listen to what that person says as I have no respect for their comments. You make a lot of sense here. I've always believed everyone has a right to be wrong. I hope that applies to me too.  Thank you again for sharing your clear thought on this matter in an open, friendly and honest way. This helps me. 

Why did she drop domestic abuse charges against him if that was her main goal? I do think more of her for giving away the money. 

3 minutes ago, toroymoi said:

Damn, where're your sources? Because you need to tell Variety they're misreporting info 

 

You got me then. I'm wrong and I admit it. 

3 minutes ago, toroymoi said:

Quoting this post because I can't be bothered cutting down that mess above. 

To correct a point, she filed before his mother died. It didn't go through until after, but okay.

Also, she's giving all of the money she got to ACLU and Children's Hospital LA. What a gold-digger, rme.

No she isn't giving all the money away. And no. She filed three days after his mother died. 

And this makes me think it NEVER HAPPENED. 

I'm so mad. He's just a crazy drunk that hurts himself and breaks his stuff but I will never believe he laid a hand on her. She went into it seeing he was damaged and planning for money. And doing so at the expense of real domestic abuse victims. 

9 minutes ago, highvoltage said:

It's no wonder victims of domestic violence are afraid to come forward. Shame on the people who are judging Amber from their armchairs. It's sickening.

HV SHE is the reason victims are afraid of filing. Why can't some of you see this?? She dropped the charges. OMG. She sold out. She dropped the charges!!!! I knew she would all along.  This just makes me sick your line of thinking. I've been there. She dropped the charges for money. She didn't stand up for victims. She dropped the charges!!  She said it didn't happen and she isn't afraid of him for money!

14 minutes ago, PappyTron said:

Maybe she filed for divorce and he hit the roof so she put in for a restraining order...

She said that event happened before she filed for divorce. He wasn't in the same city when she filed the restraining order. 

4 hours ago, Dan H. said:

Oh my God whats with the Amber hate?

You have no right to make any of those assumptions. I would expect someone who claims to have been abused would have the experience to realize that not everyone acts the same in abuse situations.

You are the reason women are afraid to admit abuse right now.

I've said she didn't behave as a battered woman, I didn't say all battered women behaved the same. Big difference. I'll try to explain. She keeps going back and forth about it not being about the money but in the end that's what it was all about. I'll give it a shot. But first in response to your comment to me, I'm a card carrying member of a large group of ppl that has every RIGHT to speak my mind on this subject. 

Let's take a look at her behavior. She started documenting him acting like a fool in 2012 before they married.  Then she married said crazy fool. She continued to document his crazy antics. She has a text message from an alleged bodyguard apologizing on his behalf that was released to TMZ and was never verified. Her phone, doesn't know how it was released. Not verified.  

Hes crazy. Writes messages in his blood and paint on mirrors!  Got that! A month or two after they married.  She waits until his mother dies and files for divorce three days later asking for 50k a month. Much backlash for her. What kind of a gutter snipe does that?  His mother just died. So, four days later after she files for divorce she goes and files a restraining order for her and her dog. Why didn't she file when she filed for divorce? She was so afraid of him she thought he would hurt her dog. Judge only gives her a restraining order. Not the dog  

Now when the police were called for the phone in the face incident the police found no evidence of her being harmed. They were on the witness list to testify to such. She hit herself with that phone. She went to a party after that incident and posted photos on Twitter then deleted them  

Because of the public condemnation and direction of the judge she withdrew her request for spousal support in June. Her reasoning was she thought it was S.O.P. and it took away from the actual issue of Domestic Abuse. Yep, Google the reason, her statement of why she withdrew. It took away from the issue of the real problem of Domestic Abuse.  A lie. Her lawyer would have advised she could have filed for a no fault divorce and ended it if it were not about money. If it were truly about Domestic Violence she would not have dropped the DV charges without Prejudice for 8 mil as she did in the end.  

Now fast forward. She has dropped the charge of Domestic Abuse Without Prejudice meaning she cannot file a restraining order on him again in return for 8 mil. Doesn't sound like she is too afraid of him to me. 

She got her money, she let him off the hook on the DV charges when all along she wanted, no shouted from the roof tops this wasn't about money, this was about bringing Domestic Abuse out in the open. She is a fraud.  

Im not the only one that believes this to be true. Read the many comments out there. 

Forgive typos. No desire to proof read this. It's too long for me to read but I hope I have clearly made my point and you will take the time to read it and that I haven't insulted you as you have me. Hopefully you will understand my line of thought now. 

Also she wasn't there when he wrote in blood and paint with severed finger on mirror. They were on the phone. She was off making that Danish movie. He had to have taken the photo and sent it to her. So that's how she got it. He's insane. That is mental and psychological abuse. She probably thought he would slice his throat next. He's a real piece of work. 

Community Property is for the time married plus it is net not gross.  He could have really worked up that financial statement to make it look like a lot less than  8 mm. This is the reason for the statement, something to the effect they were not lying about their financial standing. I think she had a lot more on him therefore won. Not sure if she will have to pay taxes on it. Alimony is taxable. If she has to pay taxes could run as high as 32%. After lawyers fee of 1mm then 32% would leave her approx just under 5mm sans state taxes. Not sure if Cali has that. Maybe no taxes on this. I have no idea. 

Also she listed she is giving some away to make her look altruistic   Wishing him the best either wishing him to get better or wishing him to die because he would be better off dead after what he put her through.  Who knows.

She is beautiful and in her prime. She will be ok. Hope this is a wake up call to him and he doesn't continue to spiral out of control. 

19 hours ago, Angelica said:

Yeah, really. A powerful man should be able to beat his wives and girlfriends, and never so much as have his reputation besmirched. Such injustice.

I should have written I was being sarcastic.  We all know there were no phones back then. 

19 hours ago, Oldest Goat said:

@AdriftatSea I have a fever and I'm exhausted and just mind-fucked myself by forgetting my own reference/joke, then got confused by you and thought you were making light of the situation, so now I'm a hypocrite technically lol

I'll probably have dementia when I'm older...fucking hell

 You won't get dementia. And not a hypocrite.

No, not making light of the situation. I do hope you feel better soon!

21 minutes ago, PappyTron said:

Well, there's not much to say. Some people will believe Depp pretty much no matter what evidence they are shown, and, let's be honest, Hollywood producers will back one of the world's biggest stars over Amber Heard because they care about the money. That's why every claim that she makes has to be supported with as much evidence as possible, because her career and reputation are on the line.

I have no dog in the fight one way or the other because, like I said from day one, I wasn't there, but the facts of the matter are that history has shown us that when a megastar is potentially in trouble they have a lot of influence to get out of jail free.

Dammit. This is exactly what happend to Axl. Same thing. He got screwed. Same thing. 

8 minutes ago, PappyTron said:

Well, there's not much to say. Some people will believe Depp pretty much no matter what evidence they are shown, and, let's be honest, Hollywood producers will back one of the world's biggest stars over Amber Heard because they care about the money. That's why every claim that she makes has to be supported with as much evidence as possible, because her career and reputation are on the line.

I have no dog in the fight one way or the other because, like I said from day one, I wasn't there, but the facts of the matter are that history has shown us that when a megastar is potentially in trouble they have a lot of influence to get out of jail free.

Oh Pappy I was believing him at first. I'm not feeling it now. I'm more so thinking she has a reason to believe this guy is crazy after the bleeding painting masterpiece. I really do not think he beat her. But I do think he is crazy. She deserves a divorce. Why must he sign a doc to agre abuse?  Not going to happen.  They need to end this now!