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4 hours ago, Blackstar said:

Goldstein never managed the Stone Roses. There were only discussions and negotiations.

He looked after them briefly for a three month period in early '95 as a try out when they did a US promotional run (radio and press interviews) and filmed the US Love Spreads video.

During that time they sacked off a UK tour and Reni left.

Goldstein's track record with seminal bands isn't great.

The Stone Roses - the epitome of a "last gang in town group", imploded while under his wing.

13 hours ago, Tom-Ass said:

I finally gave in and just listened to Hard School.. Sounds just as bad or mediocre as all the other Chinese Democracy songs.. Starting with Axl's voice... The rest of it doesn't sound anything like classic Guns N' Roses.. People are reaching...

I entirely disagree with this. Listened to it for the first time in a while the other day and it genuinely got me excited again.

I think it would make a great calling card for the band's return. Has balls and energy and actually feels like it has a bit of Guns 'n' Roses lineage, unlike a lot of the Chinese era.

It also offers a bit of a breath of fresh air compared to everything thats about right now.

Why do people bother doing this stuff? Its so cringey.

Can't believe anyone is taken in by this.

This may need moving to the AXl/DC section - apologies if so mods.

Anyways, AC/DC are on the promotion trail and doing a few interviews to support their new album. They're not answering question about Phil Rudd, but they are about Axl's time with the band which will likely throw up a few nuggets and insights.

This Guardian piece mentions that they didn't know Axl before if was drafted in as cover - I was under the impression that they had a long held relationship.

Also has a nice line about Axl's propensity to throw in random songs to a setlist at a moment's notice:

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/nov/13/return-of-acdc-angus-young-brian-johnson-cliff-williams-interview

That does seem somewhat promising. He offered it up as well.

Cant find any trace online, but when Primal Scream played in a big top on Victoria Park in London back in 1997, I remember Melody Maker's review saying Axl was on the guest list. This would have been around the time of Vanishing Point.

...doesn't appear to have GnR on it. Elton John, U2, and Nick Cave are.

https://www.nme.com/news/music/nick-cave-covers-t-rexs-cosmic-dancer-for-new-marc-bolan-tribute-album-2656250

Those rumours of Guns recording Children of the Revolution a while back may perhaps have been rooted in truth - it was meant to be for a T-Rex tribute album if I'm not mistaken which at that point hadn't been announced - you'd have to assume that this was project in question.

Either way, they're not mentioned on the press release and Kesha is down as singing Children of the Revolution for it.

Wonder if it went any further than them being approached or if they actually laid anything down for it?

24 minutes ago, LovelessNL said:

Yeah, and I think the two dates in Wembley London Stadium are still the best-selling (or best earning) dates of whole of NITL, so I wouldnt be surprised if they did a few stadium dates in the UK.

My guess would be Hyde Park - would tally up with them being over in July. There's a couple of nights still to be announced and one of those is supposed to be a big name rock act. Its an event they haven't played and they're one of the few bands out there on the circuit next year that have the gravitas to play it. 

Going to chip in here. Don't know of any dates in terms of gigs, but they're DEFINITELY on the European festival circuit at the very least in July - friend of a friend is a producer on a live music TV show in the UK who have actively been pursuing them since the reunion for an appearance. They work very closely with promoters and labels and were made aware of the bands likely availability in the UK during July 2020 way back in May this year. They usually wrap up bookings for the bigger bands on the show for their summer run by January - the Black Crowes and Ian Brown he thinks are already confirmed. The producers got some positive encouragement but he reckons its very unlikely now that they'll now get GNR at this stage (no surprises there).

Kind of understand why Finck was pissed off about Buckethead - those songs didn't need him.

Keep reading people saying that this a rough mix. There’s panning, compression on everything and reverb and what sounds like early 00’s brick wall mastering.  Sounds pretty fleshed out to me. 

Certainly bodes well for the rest of the material that's still out there in the ether - I think we can all agree this is far stronger than the majority of what made it onto Chinese Democracy - kind of fits into the "future rock" thing we were promised at the time. 

Got to say I prefer all the 2003 versions of the songs, all a bit leaner and not weighed down by all the Protooled patchwork flabbiness of the finished product. 

You wonder if this was held back because the lyrics would have have properly burnt all bridges with Slash. This has to be about him.

Not one person yet has mentioned the similarity between this and Crash Diet....

Hi guys,

Thought I'd sign up and throw in this UK-based nugget.

A good mate of mine worked on the recent Prodigy/Public Enemy tour towards the end of last year.

During the tour Public Enemy were apparently weighing up an offer to support GNR at a London stadium show in June.

My mate reckons its probably the Olympic Stadium as the promoter has something to do with the ACDC shows that are taking place there around the same time. Also mentioned that Primal Scream had been approached.

Exciting times!

In what capacity did your friend work, out of interest?

All London talk I've heard has centred around BST. This has come through friends of friends though, rather than anyone direct with BST, but I have no reason to doubt them.

Stadium wise, Olympic Stadium or Emirates are, I think, the only 2 available. Wembley Stadium has hit it's quota for the year with the Coldplay/Rihanna shows.

Guns n Roses, Primal Scream, Public Enemy day at BST would be right up my street. I'd be well behind that.

Without dropping my mate in it too much, he's works for SJM and was doing a lot of work with PE's tour manager.

He's convinced GNR will be playing Stratford, possibly multiple nights.

Hi guys,

Thought I'd sign up and throw in this UK-based nugget.

A good mate of mine worked on the recent Prodigy/Public Enemy tour towards the end of last year.

During the tour Public Enemy were apparently weighing up an offer to support GNR at a London stadium show in June.

My mate reckons its probably the Olympic Stadium as the promoter has something to do with the ACDC shows that are taking place there around the same time. Also mentioned that Primal Scream had been approached.

Exciting times!