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2 minutes ago, Rindmelon said:

If you listen to The General with headphones at 2.50 does anyone else hear errr.... frogs ribbiting?

Can't unhear it now lol. It's one of those weird CD-era sound effects. I always wondered what those chirping sounds at the beginning of TWAT were. 

1 minute ago, rumandraisin said:

Not if it's a CD era leak of the track!

Well, there's definitely a lot of Slash on the leaked track so that's outside the realm of possibility. 

4 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said:

I thought the Absurd leads were all Slash on the studio track. They don’t sound like Fortus or like the ones he does live

You're right, it's all Slash. Only in the live version Slash and Fortus play alternating solos. 

29 minutes ago, bangit said:

The faster / shredding outro of TG is unlikely to be Slash. Could be bucket or bumblefoot perhaps? 

Why do you feel it's unlikely that it's Slash? I wouldn't call myself an expert but I have a fairly good understanding of how Slash plays from analyzing his guitar parts to learn them and the TG outro has a lot of signature Slash licks. The shred part is something he does a lot when improvising live and also sounds quite similar to his solo in Straight to Hell by Ozzy Osbourne. And the speed isn't outside Slash's comfort zone either. 

It definitely isn't Buckethead. Bucket is a lot cleaner while shredding and he plays some variation of a very recognizable Paul Gilbert-esque legato sequence almost always. I don't think it's Bumblefoot either, he has a very different playing style and tone than what we hear on the song. 

1 minute ago, Free Bird said:

You listened to it with headphones now. Don't you recognize Slash's signature playing? Not only the sound but his runs and bends. That's something I haven't heard anybody play like that besides Slash. And Bucket, even if he could replicate it, has his own style. He's recognizable as well. I'd say I hear his songwriting during the verses (I can’t tell which part exactly, because I don't know where to listen to them again, since they aren't on Youtube anymore). Listening to the outro of The General is like looking at a picture of Slash. I don't think it's him, I don't believe it's him... i know it's him 

This. I'm quite surprised there are so many people here that are unable to identify Slash's trademark guitar playing and tone that's all over this track and are attributing it to NuGuns guitarists that have styles quite different from Slash's. Save for the end bit of Monsters which is definitely played by Fortus, there's no NuGuns guitarist playing any lead lines on this. And in case they decided to leave some licks in, it is probably hidden under a thousand layers and not easily discernable. 

4 hours ago, THELINESMAN said:

...and in the outro it gets a little Herbert The Pervert-y at times. 

I guess it's right on theme with the child abuse stuff and all. 

6 hours ago, rumandraisin said:

Headphone listen for The Gen:

 

Currently digging that talkbox wah thing Slash does at 3.15 on the hip hop breakdown on The General. 

Solo at 4 minutes really sounds Bucketish. Slash has excelled himself on this.

And Duff isn't getting many mentions but the bass is quite funky in The General. 

Those Beltrami sweeps in the intro. So great to have this in context after 27 years of hearing the classic show intro. The screeching high pitched strings in the bridge! 

Brain. What is there to say. The drum rolls at the end of each chorus. Followed by Duffs hip hop bass. 

I hear a sitar sounding keyboard effect in verse two. 

I wonder who we have on the rhythm parts. I really wouldn't be surprised if there's some Robin still here. 

The last solo though ... Dare I say Bucket?

 

The last solo is 100% Slash. It's got the classic Slash-style legato runs and vibrato. Buckethead's legato runs have a distinct sound to them and that isn't there on this solo. 

1 hour ago, Free Bird said:

The outto if the General is undoubtedly 100% Slash. That's as safe as it gets. Monsters on the other hand might have Richard at the end, which I'm still not convinced about it.

The outro solo on Monsters has Slash playing first and then it switches to Richard at the end. The change in tone and playing style is quite noticeable. 

Am I the only one who noticed that the outro solo on Monsters seems to have two parts - the first half played by Slash and the second half played by Fortus? 

28 minutes ago, colonizedmind said:

Is this an indoor one then?

Yeah

I'm in the pit and the stage is much smaller than I expected. I'm pretty happy about it though, feels a lot more intimate!

Anyone going to be in the pit and want to meet up? I decided to go to this show alone because none of my friends are a rabid GnR fan like me and I couldn't convince anyone to pay up for a pit ticket haha. I'm driving from Austin. 

3 hours ago, Voodoochild said:

Maybe it's on F? Or maybe Dm? 

This was my attempt

 

Dude, didn't know it was you! Big fan! 

6 hours ago, Voodoochild said:

Forgot about tonight’s show. From what I saw on Twitter, he sounded fine. I think Slash was playing in Eb, which is funny because some guy on YouTube commented on my cover video insisting that this song would be in standard tuning.

I thought it was standard tuning too when I was trying to figure out the solo yesterday, mainly because the solo starts with an E. But it was quite difficult to do all the double-stop bends clean enough. 

After looking at the live performance, it's quite clear that Slash plays it in half-step down tuning. Now my fingers have some relief when I'm trying to play the solo. 😄

However, I have no clue what scale Slash is using. It seems quite random and there are a couple of notes that I feel do not fit the chord progression. Yet, it somehow seems to work. 

2 minutes ago, F*ck Fear said:

Is there a studio quality track in circulation? I only got my hands on the radio edit and chose not to listen to it due to the quality.

I would love for them to work on Atlas next...

Yes, there's one from the NZ/AUS release. Unfortunately, I hit my daily DM limit. 🙁

Amazing Axl vocals and piano! I'll reserve my judgment on Slash's solo till I listen to it on a higher quality stream but it definitely sounds a lot better than the jukebox recordings (duh!). 

However, the unison bend that Slash does in the middle of the solo seemed a bit of of place to me when compared to the rest of the solo (almost out of tune). Again, I'll probably need a few more listens to fully dissect the song. So far, I like the song and can't get the chorus out of my head!

After listening to the Slash solo a bunch of times, I'm pretty sure it'll sound a lot better in the official release. It appears to be double-tracked and the low-quality cellphone recordings in mono probably make it sound worse than it actually is. 

7 hours ago, Swedish said:

I've listened to the leak two times now and really like it a lot, patiently waiting to properly dissect the new vocals. But this video clearly shows the one thing that I find very odd about this version, that Robins first two notes are kept from the old solo being combined with Slash's new one via a very strange cut and paste job. Surely the had to have been a more coherent way of putting that solo together if those first two notes where so important?

It might just be because I'm so familiar with the old solo and that's why it sounds so odd, but it almost sounds like it was live mixed and the engineer left the wrong track playing and changed it a second to late (which obviously didn't happen but illustrates how it sounds).

Even I don't understand why they decided to leave a bit of Robin's solo playing over Slash's, especially when we know that Slash hated Paul Tobias playing over his parts in Sympathy For The Devil. That part of the song just sounds off and isn't timed properly from what I can hear. 

Dammit, the bars in my city have closed already. Hope there's a cleaner recording by the morning. 

On 2/26/2023 at 6:47 PM, BigMike322 said:

I'll be in the pit.

Me too! Long-time fan and this will be my first Guns show. 

Someone uploaded Street of Dreams on YouTube. 

Pretty decent solo from Slash when compared to his previous attempts. 

Is Fortus' guitar out of tune? 

On 3/10/2022 at 10:02 PM, Estranged Reality said:

I went to the MD show last night and they went on about an hour after doors and played just over two hours. 

I've long thought The One You Loved Is Gone has one of his best solos in recent memory and he transformed it into a show stopping performance with the extended improv solo. It was incredible to witness. 

Here's my recording of Spirit Love:

 

 

Didn't know they started playing this live. Thanks for sharing!