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I didnt understand, what was Axl saying to/about Slash at the begginign of WTTJ?

Im not saying it will solve the problem, at least not at first , just that it will be better then fiat.

Fiat money is one of the few things cousing that inequalty, so bitcoin can only come as a better solution.

12 minutes ago, Gracii Guns said:

Any currency which is exclusive isn't a currency worth having. Money already causes so much division. Adding another degree of "haves" and "have nots" is not going to be good for any community. 

You are wrong there. Fiat currencys are heavily controlled and manipulated by countries, dividing people and worlds wealth. Ultimatelly, cypto is a chance for clean start. Can be used globally, isnt controlled by states, and it hase defitive number. No money printing!

2 hours ago, soon said:

Thanks for this info! Some fascinating stuff there. Some of it seems like padding the subject, but other points really resonated with me. Up-cycling the excess heat is a concept that really rings my bell. I try to do that type of thing in my home.

I was totally lost with how cryptos role in IoT is an eco friendly aspect though?

I think lowering carbon foot print mostly comes down to the growing popularity of the tech creating demand for higher efficiency. I hope the market takes care to push even beyond what consumers demand. But powering ming with solar and then essentially 'doubling' the solar output by also using for heat is a very exciting concept imo.

But I still dont get the basics, like if I buy some currency and people keep mining, doesnt the value of my investment depreciate? How does that work?

 

Mining "creates" coin. And when all coins of one currency will be mines, miners will produce only transactions on the blockchain. So in short, generally, mining will not depreciate value of a coin.

In regard to IoT, what is being said... Is that blockchain technology is already a solution for machine to machine payments, that will be needed in  IoT.

I've been into it for a long time now, and I hold a part in 20 cryptocurrencies. But I'm not a bitcoin miner, and I agree with this huge power hungry mining being an eco problem.

But mining is only a part of the crypto world. There ara many advanteges that crypto brings over the classic fiat currencies and assets.

Also, you can find some reasoning why power consumtion is not only problem no solution kind of a deal:

https://www.buybitcoinworldwide.com/mining/waste-electricity/

Overall, I see the crypto and especilly the blockchain being the new tech revolution that could change our lives  dramatically in ten years or so. We are still in the early adoption phase, but crypto is slowly gaining momentum to the mainstream.

If and when crypto becomes fully used, maybe bitcoin will not be THE currency (and most of the crypto's will fail in the end IMO) but I think some of them are here to stay for a long long time, and will ultimatelly change the world as we know it.

Till something new comes out with this band, just to pass the time, are you guys into this?

I think it's gonna be huge in few years.

1 hour ago, Black Sabbath said:

Best crowd I've been around in awhile.

Hot chicks all around, too.

Oh man, you should have taken some photos

Tough choice between UYI and NITL.

Voted UYI, but it was a close one.  He is technically better today, but I like the energy, improvisation, guitar tone and wildness of his UYI performances.

Bad Apples as opener...

...It's gonna be same old setlist. Not sure why are you getting your hopes up every time, thing are crystal clear the whole tour. No major changes, they are playing it safe.

It would be cool to see a RQ as a starter with an apology, but not gonna happen.

Eventually, Axl is gonna say he's sorry:

Sorry for you, St. Louis, not sorry for me.

1992 at wembley was probably one of the last great performances before Slash and Duff left.

Love that version, truly great live performance.

I went to just one show, and I'm sorry I didn't went to one more. Shows are really great. 

Yes, Axl's voice isn't on his 90ies level, but it's good overall, and great at times. The band may not be at their musical peak (wich is very logical), but they are good, they are pro.

And it was not all roses before with AFD and UYI tours. They had many memorable performances, but also the other ones. They were many times late for hours, a lot of shows were cancelled and band incited more then few riots. Riots people! Axl had rants that were longer then their songs, and their songs tend to be long. Sometimes they would show up totally fucked up, drunk, stoned, couldn't hit notes and played poorly. 

On this tour, guys are being complete pros. Not a single show was cancelled or they were late on their behave, and the shows are mostly 3+ hours of great music. The band is good, and a few years back we could only pray for something like this.

They have lost their hungry, sex drugs and rock, edge, they are not the most dangerous band in the world anymore, but thry still play great RnFR.

So enjoy it while it lasts. If they come to Europe again, I will go to see them again. Hoping for another EU leg.

PS - The Seeker rules live!

26 minutes ago, AncientEvil80 said:

Sorry pal, but your post is so full of cliches and whatnot, that I had to stop reading.

Izzy didn't want too much cash. THEY didn't wanna split the loot. But it doesn't matter... musically. They should have done whatever to bring back Izzy if they had any musical integrity at all.

As for Steven: again with the drugs story? Can he play? Jeezuz, it's not fucking Chick Corea stuff. No need for Colaiuta. 

You where there and you know what happened woth Izzy? You are sure  Steven could handle few years of NITL?

Cuz he was a cry baby after not being called for more shows last year and changed his opinion every other day.

Not saying it would go that way, just arguing a different opinion. What I said might be a cliche, but it's being backed up with their history with the band, wether you like it or not.

41 minutes ago, bigpoop said:

It just seems like doing a specifically Appetite-related event without the original guys is a line they didn't need to cross.

It's tacky and disrespectful and with the tour as wildly successful as it's been they just don't need to do it.

It's not being advertised solely as AFD30 gig, it's also a NITL NA second leg warm up show.

About Izzy and Steven... They were in the play for NITL. Izzy wanted too much cash, so they say. But maybe it was just an excuse to not go on a big tour. He is known for not likeing big tours and events, left the band for that long ago.

And Steven..  I like his drumming, but can he truly stay clean, in shape and focused for a few years of touring, with 3 hour concerts 3 times a week?

They are not part of NITL, they will not be a part of this event. This will be similiar to the NITL setlist, shorter, MAYBE with less covers and a few more AFD songs.

Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see Steven and Izzy there, for this event and the tour, but it's just not realistic. Not gonna happen. But I'll take what I can get. Axl, Slash and Duff together in GNR  that's just great and more then we could hope to see few years ago.

Enjoy it while it lasts

Yeah. It's a surprise to see RQ so far in the lead..

But, that's the all time best album for me. Every song can be No1, except Anything Goes and Think about you.

Hard one. I could easily go with WTTJ and MM, but I gave my vote to RQ this time.

Many memorable and different performances, the song is very versatile. From fantastic groove of Steven's drums  with classy hard rock sound at the Ritz 1988, the drunk performance ''you can dance to  this shit, come on honey'' in Nobblesville 1991, and now experimental solo contest Slash vs Richard. Like them all.

Just a bit sorry they didn't let Steven perform this song instead of OTG and MM. He would kill it.

Few videos already up:

1 minute ago, Litti said:

Really?, stop scaring us

Ok

I'm sorry, cut me some smack.

11 minutes ago, Litti said:

Really? That's so shameful. Guess Axl didn't know that countries usually have borders and that Dem's fought for the wall in 06. Somebody tell Axl that he should keep his mouth closed about things he don't understand.

Chill out Litti, I was only joking

Thought it was an obvious joke, since we already wrote the show was over an hour ago

They are doing Mother intro with Axl singing Uuuuuh baby, Trump should've built the wall.

So it's done...

Bohemian tragedy was the best

You are right. Just read it now. My bad.

I just don't belive it

Who said 3,5 hours?

As I recall, they just moved the start because concert will be longer then expected. Just like Prague, Nijmegen were...

They will hardly do 10 songs encore.

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12 minutes ago, Natalia92 said:

Prague was killer, but it was the only I attended so I'm biased.

Do you think we'll get more European dates next year? or that was it? 

I'm up for more