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  1. 17 minutes ago, Hollywood Gunner said:

    youre right but i still dont see them spending that much on these billboards just for a boxset that hardly anyone outside this forum will buy... and forget about the boxset, i dont know one casual fan that would buy shadow of your love off of itunes as a single track

    Well, it's unlikely it will be just a box set, there will probably be a CD/DVD option that will fly off the shelf. Universal have every reason to get behind the release.

  2. 4 minutes ago, Hollywood Gunner said:

    yeah but universal already lost money when CD flopped. i doubt a label would do something that dumb again

    No they didn't, they made it all back (and more) with the BestBuy deal. Then they made a profit from the worldwide sales too. Universal lost nothing, they made money off of Chinese Democracy, plus, they have the rights to whatever else the band recorded during that timeframe.

  3. 4 hours ago, AxlRoseCDII said:

    As we approach an inevitable re-release of Appetite, I do wonder why Guns n' Roses never really put these albums in the spotlight. The 25th anniversary of them passed by with barely any acknowledgement. Durihg tne NITL tour they played what, 3 songs each night from each (counting KOHD/LALD)? It's almost like Guns lives purely off the success of Appetite, playing 8-9 songs a night from it while ignoring they had two other massive albums that led to a massive tour. Why do you guys think this is?

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    You can't count, they play more than that each night. Often 5 or 6, hardly a great difference.

  4. 12 minutes ago, guitarpatch said:

    You think the band is marketing this? It’s most likely UMG. They profit from it 

    You think the band marketed their tour? Live Nation provided marketing for their tour so they didn’t lose $ from their guaranteed fee

    Other than that they have a team that runs social media, manages their content that prob includes video, and drives engagement for their brand, merch, and premium packages etc.  

    The oversight and brand direction comes from management. They obviously ok’d all of this as it fits in with their strategy and possibly collaborated with some of it Including this release as well.  It ain’t coming out of their pocket though.

    Live Nation didn’t require them to do a ton of PR. That’s the amount of clout they had in the deal.  It was negotiated. We’ll see if there’s any PR requirements made from UMG with this release.

    Why would you think he thinks the band marketed this? Why would you think he thinks the band marketed the tour? He doesn't say anything like that, he says the opposite.

  5. 2 hours ago, DieselDaisy said:

    The funny thing is Guns celebrating the 31st anniversary of Appetite with something which we'll find out about soon enough! The 31st!

    They have always gotten things a bit buggered up (just a bit), that band.

    This is still the 30th year since appetite was released. If this box set comes out before July, 21, then it's still in its 30th year. Not that it matters anyway.

  6. 3 hours ago, Bailey96 said:

    You know when a good time it was to release a box set or a re release of appetite? The actual 30th anniversary of Appetites release. This band really loves the motto: better late than never. 

    Who gives a fuck when it comes out? What does it matter? "Oh, it's a year late, fuck those guys!", it makes no difference to anything whatsoever. Dry your eyes mate.

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  7. 2 hours ago, PatrickS77 said:

    Right. Tell that to the tens of thousands of fans who didn't give a rats ass about fake GNR and now are back full force, despite ridiculous ticket prices. It's you that has to suck it up. Axl Rose is not GNR.

    Never said Axl was GN'R, never said the current line up was more successful than previous lineups or less. Learn how conversations work before attempting to have one.

  8. 3 hours ago, killuridols said:

    Only fools would believe the band was called "NuGN'R" :facepalm:

    OBVIOUSLY, it is an euphemism and a codename that fans use, informally, to discuss that period of the band post 1997.

    The band is called Guns N Roses. Keep up with the matter being discussed, it's called context, no one is interested in your straw men.

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  9. 3 hours ago, Padme said:

    I'm not asking you to write an essay. I just wasnt to know what you like about NuGN'R. You like RIR 2011? You miss Pitman? You like Tommy more than Duff? You like Ashba and Buckethead more than Slash? You think Axl voice was better back in those days?

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    There's no such thing as "NuGN'R", the band is called Guns N Roses and @BlueJeanBaby is clearly a fan of THAT band.

     

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  10. 8 hours ago, Gnrcane said:

    Exactly.  This is a band that has NEVER done things for the fans.  They basically "wrote what they wanted" and "played what they wanted."  Their biggest tour prior to NITL featured the lead singer telling the fans to go f*** themselves on a nightly basis by showing up late for no reason. 

    They shouldn't have "wrote what they wanted?" What should they have written? What you wanted? That would be good.

  11. 12 hours ago, Iron MikeyJ said:

    But at the time Slash signed that contract, a Guns possibility was LITERALLY "Not in this lifetime". So I have to disagree with you that he had a "Guns provision" in his contract. Again, this is all just speculation. 

    Does anyone here actually know if Slash HAS a 3 or 5 album deal in his current contract? What got me thinking about this was, when Slash guests on others music, like Michael Jackson for example, in the album liner notes it will say "Slash appears COURTESY of Geffen records." So clearly the record company HAD to sign off on those appearances, so Slash HAD to ask permission from his record company in order to do it. So it begs the question why would his current label allow him to do a Guns album while he is still under contract? The only viable scenario I see, is if Guns were to sign on Slash's current label. Which isn't Guns a free agent right now? So I could see the potential for HUGE money, they might be trying to do a bidding war behind the scenes for all we know. But again, maybe Slash needs to finish up his current contract so that HE and AXL and the Guns name are all free agents. That would ensure top dollar bidding. 

    Could be possible, is all I'm saying...

    Slash doesn't have a record contract. His albums are recorded and funded by himself and then licensed to record companies that want to release and sell them in whichever region.

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