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For a cover song with no video, Sympathy for the Devil reached 55 on the Billboard Hot 100 and 10 on the Mainstream Rock Chart. Don't think they were THAT unpopular. GN'R had the highest selling rock single of all of 1992 with NR two years prior as well. Aerosmith had their biggest success ever with Get a Grip in 1993 selling over 7 million copies. Van Halen's Balance sold 3 million. GN'R would've done similar numbers if they had released a good album in the 1994-1996 timeframe. Load sold 7 million despite the backlash by fans of Metallica.
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it's also one of the few times they did thrash metal
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for such a short song its got pretty good lyrics. I love all the UYI rockers tho.
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5 minutes ago, ludurigan said:
yes, like some of you guys already mentioned, this isnt is indeed in st louis where axl went to the jail after the press conference on the spaghetti incident court case on erin everly
on that particular night, axl wore yellow in the morning, green suit on lunchtime, back to yellow for the afternoon tea and made sure to put the orange/pink one for the interview
anything else you guys need on axl suits (and lawsuits!) please feel free to ask me
Do you have any other lawsuit pix?
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not sure if anyone saw this before but this is Axl's last public statement besides the fax from burning hills, until the OMG press release in 99:
Q Magazine - March 1994
Bring Out The Manson
Statement from W. Axl Rose concerning the unlisted bonus track, Look At Your Game, Girl by Charles Manson, on Guns N' Roses' new album, The Spaghetti Incident?
It's come to my attention that some people have taken offence to a particular song, Look At Your Game, Girl, on our new album The Spaghetti Incident?. What it all boils down to is this: The Spaghetti Incident? is 13 historical and musical gems that may have been overlooked. For instance, New Rose was one of The Damned's main songs but for whatever reason a lot of the world didn't hear it.
In Indiana, I was ridiculed and physically attacked for my musical tastes, tastes that I never made any effort to hide. I thought it would be interesting for the so called mainstream and the people who were against this material when I was a teenager to actually hear these songs. Maybe they'll hear something they like, and more importantly, maybe they'll go and find the originals better, including Look At Your Game, Girl. The reason we didn't list that song on our album is we wanted to downplay it. We don't give any credit to Charles Manson on the album; it's like a hidden bonus truck.
It's my opinion that the media are enjoying making a big deal out of Guns N' Roses covering a song that Charles Manson recorded, but if another band had recorded that song, it probably wouldn't have been of interest. The media need their "bad guys" to guarantee some ratings, so they use Manson's name coupled with mine to promo their news programs.
However, when I do something positive, like contribute to charity, it's hard to get the news to pick up on those stories. The media is an interesting beast.
Why did I choose to cover that particular song?
Oddly enough, one of the things we do up at my house is have "Name That Artist" contests where we play obscure songs and everyone tries to name the artist. My brother Stuart found Look At Your Game, Girl at a large record chain and, needless to say, he won that round. Personally, I liked the lyrics and the melody of the song. Hearing it shocked me and I thought there might be other people who would like to hear it.
I like the words because, to me, it's about a woman who has thrown things away. She thinks she's gaining love but basically she's gaining sadness. It was very fitting for a personal situation I happened to be in. The song talks about how the girl is insane and playing a mad game. I felt that it was ironic that such a song was recorded by Charles Manson, someone who should know the inner intricacies of madness.
Manson is a dark part of American culture and history. He's the subject of fear and fascination through books, movies, and the interviews he's done. Most people hadn't heard anything Charles Manson recorded.
A lot of people can say I wear the "Charlie Don't Surf" T-shirt for shock value, but I've worn that shirt for the past year on tour, all over the world. Yes, I was trying to make a statement. I wore the T-shirt because a lot of people enjoy playing me as the bad guy and the crazy. Sorry, I'm not that guy. I'm nothing like him. That's what I'm saying. There's a real difference in morals, values and ethics between Manson and myself and that is "Thou shalt not kill," which I don't. I'm by no means a Manson expert or anything, but the things he's done are something I don't believe in. He's a sick individual. Look at Manson and then look at me. We're not the same. Plus, I like the black humor of the "Charlie Don't Surf" line for the movie Apocalypse Now.
I think people think I'm crazy because I believe in telling the truth. I'll admit sometimes I don't do a perfect job of it, but my efforts are true.
It is my understanding that the song was written by Dennis Wilson. To what extent Charles Manson is involved in the publishing, I'm not aware. However, I am donating all my personal profits from having that song on our album to a charity, an environmental group to help protect wildlife and our oceans. In our video for Estranged, which will be the last video for the Use Your Illusion albums, we used dolphins, and this is my way of giving something back to the dolphin, which are endangered and threatened with extinction.
Unfortunately I Don't Surf Either.
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1 hour ago, Blackstar said:
Like others said, it's from St. Louis. Axl wore that pink suit both when he presented himself at the St Louis court after he was arrested in NY in July '92 and at the civil case trial with the biker Stump or with the city of St. Louis later in '92 or in '93. The picture is after a settlement in one of the civil cases (see around 21:10 min mark on the video @Big D in Toronto posted above).
At the Adler court case in 1993 Axl wore a green suit.
He didn't talk to the press or appear on camera during the Erin/Stephanie lawsuits in '94.
It's kind of surprising that the press never followed him during the Stephanie and Erin cases especially given how much publicity Erin gave her case, and also the amount of time both dragged on. Axl's suit with Stephanie lasted from August 1993 to April 1995 and his suit with Erin lasted from March 1994 to March 1996. Surprised that in those two years no reporter tried to interview him, or snap a photo on his way to/from the court houses. -
The date of this footage of Axl would've been October 1993. Axl settled with Stump on 10/22/1993. The court footage in the green suit from the Adler case was late August 1993. In the footage he's not wearing a pink suit, he's wearing the brown jacket I asked in the other thread about, which seems to have been a big part of his Fall/Winter clothes in 93-94.
"Billy "Stump" Stephenson wanted more than $2 million in damages from rock star Axl Rose.
When his suit was settled Thursday, Stephenson got what Rose, the leader of the heavy metal band Guns N' Roses, called "a very minimal figure" - and an autograph.
Both men said they were happy with the agreement and declined to reveal the terms. The court settlement ended yet another chapter in the ongoing saga of Axl Rose and his riotous concert two years ago at the Riverport Amphitheatre in Maryland Heights.
Stephenson, 28, of St. Louis, had sued Rose for injuries to his back and ear, which he claimed he suffered when Rose dived onto him from the stage at the Guns N' Roses concert July 2, 1991.
Jurors deliberated for about three hours Thursday before Judge Anna C. Forder announced the case was settled. Afterward, several jurors crowded around Rose for autographs.
Stephenson got one, too.
Inside the back cover of Stephenson's rock concert scrapbook, Rose scrawled, "Stump Axl G n' R 93."
As he left the Civil Courts Building, Rose, 31, said he "didn't know what to think" of Stephenson's request for an autograph.
"It was pretty wild to me," Rose said.
Stephenson testified at the six-day trial that Rose had hit him.
Rose testified he went after Stephenson to get a small camera that the fan had used to take unauthorized photographs.
The concert ended in a riot after Rose criticized security and pulled his band off the stage at Riverport. Authorities estimated that 3,000 people had taken part in the disturbance, which heavily damaged the amphitheater and the band's equipment.
Rose said Thursday that he and his band were "trying to figure out how to come back to St. Louis to play." That's a change from the pretrial days when the singer criticized the city.
Rose, of Los Angeles, said he might cut back on his concert antics. …"
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Wish there was all the footage
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39 minutes ago, Original said:
Doesn't look like a press conference IMO, rather him leaving court perhaps and being ambushed by the reporters? But I think he wore a powder blue jacket in court?
He wore a blue jacket when first arrested in New York but he was also processed through St. Louis and he's wearing the same thing in the St. Louis mugshit that he's wearing in the picture above. I just wanna see the video caus eit looks to be very good quality and I've never seen it before. -
This picture looks like a screen cap from a press conference and judging by how he looks and what he's wearing, it looks like after he was arrested for St Louis but the video is nowhere to be found...any help? -
I've always liked this jacket Axl used to wear. I'd really like to find either the same jacket, or one very much like it. Can anyone tell me what style it is? What brand it may have been? What sort of material it looks like?
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It's their heaviest song
It's like GN'R doing thrash...love it.
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Does anyone know what brand this jacket Axl wore a lot in 1993 to 1994 might've been or what style it's called or what material might've been used to make it? Autumn is approaching here and I'd really like to get a similar one. It has a cool grunge look to it:
It's like GN'R doing thrash...love it.
Perception of GnR/Axl between 1993-1997?
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