Spiritual_Chaos

21 minutes ago, mystery said:

Preach, there's people that have the opinion that other artists new albums are trash so why compare them to Guns N' Roses? The point is those bands are at least doing stuff creatively in the present day and not resting on their laurels. I'd rather see a band try and if the music sucks it's at least done in earnest and you also get different setlists out of it.

Being together since 2016(?) and just endlessly touring a best of setlist is an outlier, but all bands are different. Not everyone can be Neil Young releasing a new album every year and also throw in some recorded album that was never released back in the day.

I also think Guns N Roses is more of a business venture for the members than e.g. RHCP who's a "genuine band" and not three original members together for profit, with hired guns backing them up. Or "fucking journeymen" like Noel Gallagher called Liams backup band.

On 11/27/2022 at 6:08 PM, t-p-d-a said:

why are you mad?

Just giving perspective. 

2 hours ago, Old_school_gnr_fan said:

Hopefully, thousands of the box sets will go unsold, which will force them to sell the contents of the set individually, as they did with the Locked N' Loaded set. That might be one way to obtain the Ritz blu-ray without having to pay for the entire set.

This box set is one of the larger disappointments I've experienced in my 35 years of following this band. To boot, I cancelled my order for the limited edition 4 LP set, because I was sick of getting emails stating that because of production delays, the shipping date kept getting pushed out. My guess is, they can't count to 5,000 (the number that was supposed to be produced), and took more orders for it than they could fulfill.

Welcome to the BUNGLE.

lol

Where did the bicycle-shorts thing even come from?

3 hours ago, t-p-d-a said:

In my opinion it's not, because Arni was involded in this music video. Crowd scene, the Seek and Destroy of every GN'R member and the end scene "waste of ammo". And I think that stands out from other music videos with film scenes

That kind of "my favorite band bias" won't hold up in court.


In my opinion it's not, because Robert Englund was involved in this music video. The band playing in the church scene from the movie and Vinnie Vincent even wearing the red and green stripes shirt and glove while soloing. And I think that stands out from other music videos with film scenes

In my opinion it's not, because Celine Dion does her performance par on the actual set. She sings the song on the Titanic. And I think that stands out from other music videos with film scenes

In my opinion it's not, because Bryan Adams and his band plays in the Sherwood Forest. Close to where the sheriff has ravaged the lands and the poor people are suffering. And I think that stands out from other music videos with film scenes

Doubt there will be any form of Chinese Democracy anniversary box, reissue or whatever, as long as Slash and Duff is in the band. No matter how much it was their idea to play those songs live.

14 hours ago, Carburetta said:

Ok, that’s fine then, thanks. Doubt they would have been able to change the audio of the one which has a billion views now I think about it.

Would imagine Universal and Youtube could have worked something out, if that is really what they wanted to do. Just like updating the video source as labels do.

31 minutes ago, James Bond said:

And look at Liam's comeback since 2017. His career is thriving. Selling out Knebworth, new albums selling well with praise from critics and fans alike, lots of press, and so forth. He also regularly adds deep cuts to his set list and rotates them quite frequently.

All that means is that since the time of Slash, Duff, and Axl reuniting Liam Gallagher has released three studio albums, two EPs, and two live albums.

But hey, we got two songs with 1999 vocals and Walk All Over You added to the set list.

Different people have different things that drive them. I doubt Axl want's to hire songwriters to write him albums, so he can release them to stand in the spotlight and hoping it grates on Noel.

17 hours ago, WillBailey said:

All tracks from the reissue are available on the streaming platforms, though. In all fairness, who besides hardcore fans would buy physical copies of this?

Here in Sweden the reissue LP:s are 45 dollars. Not really a "curious casual music fan" price. 

I only have UYIII on vinyl. No way I am completing the "set" with the reissue for 45 dollars.

17 hours ago, mystery said:

That one also came out much closer to the 2016 reunion where there was still some novelty about the band. We're 4 years after that one where most casual fans have moved on and it feels like the band themselves have barely promoted it. Thor: Love and Thunder somehow promoted it more.

It was also the debut album, that is iconic and very well regarded. I would imagine through the years more people have been picking up Appetite than the Illusions albums. It's their "The Black Album".

I mean Pearl Jam went from selling their Ten box set (similar to this one) everywhere, to throwing VS and Vitalogy together in one combined box and just selling that one from their own fanclub. Then stopped completely. 

5 hours ago, rockphantom said:

An RSD release would be too limited. It would leave many fans short changed and/or buying from gougers on eBay. I am hoping Paris 92 will be released as a 2CD/BD package in the not too distant future. I also hope for official CD releases of Wembley '91 and Rio '91 (both nights).  If the pro-shot video for the '91 shows is in good shape, release that too! Many serious fans of the "1987-1993 Golden Era" will buy any official live recordings from this period.

RSD release =/= limited

E.g. Pearl Jam Live on Two Legs LP re-issue was "RSD first" and I think that had a print run of 16.000. 

1 hour ago, ©GnrPersia said:

This might be a bit off-topic but regarding remastered music videos, they didn't put effort to remaster these from the original tapes.

Example: Andy Morahan was never approached for his archives for NovRain, Don't Cry and Estranged. 

It seems like they just took the same digitalized vids and 'remastered' them lol

Yeah, okey. I mostly thought (not Gnr specific) that it depended on what was actually saved and available. 

I mean, they recut D'you know what I mean? from the camera negative: 
 

But uprezzed and smudged up Wonderwall (maybe that only existed as a SD source, but don't "HD:ify it" by that shitty smudgy algorithm (that will age like piss. Just look back at Get Back in a few years).
 

Pearl Jam had Jeremy rescanned to 4K:

https://youtu.be/MS91knuzoOA

but with the Riot Act videos (shot on 35mm) they seemed to also just use an uprezzed a SD source:

Get Back:




This is the "brickwalled for iphone earbuds" of our film loving generation.

2 hours ago, ruttu69 said:

 

I don't see the problem with the quality here. It's the look of the times. 

Rather have that, than GnR using ugly smudgy upscaling algorithms like many "HD remastered" music videos. Or completely destroy the image and erase the look of the format it was shot on - like Peter Jackson did with Beatles Get Back,.

 

Some questions regarding the The Ritz show:

1. Was the original director involved in the edit of this now in 2022? Or maybe this is the same edit as in 1991?

2. Did they film the whole show because they were gonna do the You Could Be Mine-video. Or did they make the You Could Be Mine-video because they were filming the whole show?

3. And a follow up to that. Was this shot, framed for a theatrical widescreen presentation or was it shot for 1.33. I understand that You Could Be Mine obviously very much was framed to work on MTV, and maybe it is me being so used to Widescreen but it has an "open matte" look in places, as if it was framed originally for a wider format. But maybe that is just me overly used to widescreen and cramped pan & scan releases from back in the day. I'm presuming it was shot and framed for 1.33. Bu who knows, maybe they had a theatrical release in mind, shooting it on 35 and all.

2 hours ago, UncleJosh said:

You keep saying filmed.  It was recorded.  Not filmed.  Filming requires use of actual film stock.  It was taped on video.  

These are 2 different things. They recorded tons of shows.  They only filmed a handful.

 

Sorry I do not mean to come off rudely.  Just trying to stop misinformation since a lot of people think they "filmed" so many shows when they did not.

Interviewer: So, how's the new Ant-Man movie going Paul Rudd?

Paul Rudd: Great. We're filming right now.

Interview: No, actually, you are recording. You are using the Arri Alexa. It's a videocamera. You are not filming. Please Paul Rudd, stop with the misinformation.


(you can use the term filming/been filmed without linking it to 8/16/35/65mm film. It's not a problem unless you make it one. As in "Too bad Pearl Jam filmed the Madison Square Garden show in 2003 in SD on Sony DSR-WS 500 cameras and didn't have Martin Scorcese shoot it on 35)

Saying something was filmed and could be released officially =/= something having been filmed on 35mm and could be released officially. 
 

3 hours ago, Sausagebrain said:

If they headline glasto, expect complaints that the band who released 'One In A Million' have been allowed to play there.

 

Think I'm joking? Some people complained endlessly when Metallica headlined there in 2014, because of James Hetfield's love of hunting. 

Not that he kicked Mustaines dog?

1 hour ago, James Bond said:

For comparison's sake - Hells Bells from AC/DC's Live At Donington. Brian Johnson flubbed the entire second verse (check out the audience recording) and therefore had to punch it in on the video release. It's far less noticeable than anything on Live Era because it was done at the time so 1991 Brian still sounds like 1991 Brian. Back In Black from that show is what made the cut on the AC/DC Live album and even that is basically re-recorded from top to bottom. But again, less noticeable because it was done at the time and not several years later as Axl did. Imagine 2008 Brian going back and looping a show from 1981.

Noel didn't like that Liam improvised the lyrics to Wonderwall, so he switched out that part for their 2000 Familiar to Millions release with another concert's take. I guess that is similar in that it's not noticeable. But it still irks me a bit. 

As Liam let the audience sing the choruses of "Wonderwall" and also changed the words to other parts of the song ("By now you should have somehow realised not to sniff glue" / "And all the lights that light the way are doin' me fuckin' 'ead in!") at the 22 July gig, the version on the various audio formats features a different vocal track to the original one recorded at Wembley. This also applies to Noel's backing vocals. Most of these overdubbed vocals were recorded at Oasis' gig at the Yokohama Arena, Kanagawa, Japan on 5 March 2000. Only one line ("I don't believe that anybody feels the way I do about you now") in the first verse is from the actual Wembley gig, as Liam failed to sing this line correctly in the Yokohama performance.

12 hours ago, Spaghetti4twenty said:

I'm sure this has been discussed a lot but I figured I'd bring it up. I was listening to Night Train from Vegas off the album and it still amuses me that they re did the vocals. I wonder if he just didn't like how raw they were during the UYI tour? Regardless, I find his vocals in 1999 to be some of the best work he's done. Perfect ratio of rasp and clean tone. Oh My God, some of CD, and Live Era 

KISS - Alive from 1974 only has the drum track intact from the "live recording" if I remember it correctly. 

The live tracks from the 70's that KISS put on some collection in the  90s to push the reunion, had brand new 90s vocal tracks by Paul. That beats Axl. It's 20 years later.

15 minutes ago, Frankfurt93 said:

no chemistry between the band members, no interaction with the fans, it is almost sreaming all around - take the money and run.

running dwn the setlist, not giving a fuck, almost like listening to a live juke box.

Then why are they e.g. playing for so long?

14 hours ago, WhazUp said:

If we currently apply Ocam's Razor we have two options:

- the instrumentalists of GNR are jamming on a cool riff they think there is something cool enough to develop/keep around

- GNR have a secret new song they want to play live, not on the alt setlists yet, and they flew a previous drummer out specifically to teach the current GNR drummer how to play the fairly simple drum groove

I know which one of the two seems more plausible to me lol

Why would Occam's Razor conclude that:

- the instrumentalists of GNR are jamming on a cool riff they think there is something cool enough to develop/keep around

and not:

- the instrumentalists of GNR are trying out a new song they have in the can to be released and played live.

(like, isn't that what happened with Absurd and Hard Skool? It was soundchcked by "the instrumentalists" when it was about to come out and start to be played live)

10 minutes ago, AxlRoseCDII said:

Brain literally recommended Frank to the band. And he stepped down amicably to be with his family. 

In this context. -- So?

13 minutes ago, Shacklermyrye said:

If an ex drummer that they are on friendly terms with showed Frank a part of a song, 

But what is this even based on. It's creating a narrative out of thin air.

7 minutes ago, Sosso said:

Should be, "I'm something of an..."

1 minute ago, AxlRoseCDII said:

Except Slash has directly confirmed that they’ve worked on shelved songs from 1999 and not any new-new material.

Has he explicit said that? No new ideas? No ideas brought in from anyone in the band, except for Axl's old leaked demos?

A local record store has the AFD LP with the original cover. But he wasn't certain if it was an original or a bootleg.

Are there any tel-tale signs of it being an original, to look for?