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4 minutes ago, jonbradley said:

With all due respect, coming from a guy who travels to the UK often for work and has many friends there, why do people like you feel the need to attack/trash/insult an entire country?  Yet, here you are, on a forum for a band from the USA (a rather drab band at this point, mind you), insulting all Americans.  I can confidently say you don't speak for all Brits, as the ones I know have a lot more common sense to not blindly throw insults like this around.  But I digress. 

I, too, find these tributes to Kobe quite tacky.  All low-flying aircraft that day were grounded in LA due to the weather.  Someone made a foolish and selfish decision to fly... probably Kobe himself... and it cost him and 8 others their lives.   It's a tragedy, but tragedy's happen every day to common people all over the world, including 'classless' Americans, as you've so dubbed all of us.  They're all a shame, but tributes to the uber-privileged are just so tiresome.  We can agree there. 

That aside, did you ever consider that Axl lives in LA and is a HUGE Lakers fan?  As is others in the band?  Kobe was known to be quite the stubborn arse, just like Axl, so they, I'm sure, connected on that level in a way we couldn't possibly understand.  If I could offer a bit of advice, if they want to pay a tribute to somebody they admired, whether you or I think it's tacky or not, let them do it and try not attack an entire populus of people from another country... on a forum for a band from that country.  

Does anybody on here ever attack Brits for their obsession with a defunct monarchy?   Can I insult you because all that's all over the papers and news channels in your country is all about Harry and Meghan?  Two people that have absolutely no bearing on any of our lives.  Is it tacky when your country pays tribute to Princess Dianna at every turn, to this day?  Can we Americans call all Brits lifeless fools for the constant obsession over the royal family... the most uber-privileged group of people in the world that your hard earned money supports via taxation? 

Will you be upset when Elizabeth kicks the bucket?  Will you be okay with the 'tacky' tributes to her when the time comes?  

This is my first post ever on this forum, and probably the last (I like GNR and like to see photos and videos from their concerts... this forum seems to be a good place to find that stuff), but I just had to chime in when I read this comment.  It's incredibly insulting coming from someone in a country where it's people do the same types of things, and practically adore anything American.   A quick look at the 20 most popular websites visited by people in Britan in 2019 based on user traffic (https://www.lexiconnect.co.uk/top-20-uk-websites.html) finds that just about all of them have their home or origins in America (Google, Youtube, Facebook, etc.).  #16 on that list?  Pornhub.  That's classy.  American too!

So, what's really tacky here is someone from across the pond who feels the need to attack/insult an entire nation because he doesn't like some tribute to some American sports hero at some American band's concert, in America, on a forum for said American rock band.  

As if his people never put their celebrities up on a pedestal as if they're some kind of Queen or King or Prince or something.   How silly would that be in the 21st century?

Pot, meet kettle.  

 

Wow. Hahaha. You made your first post a goddamn classic. Good for you for speaking up. 

Where are you guys seeing any of this??

I can't hear how he sounds. Any decent stream??

"Is Axl's hair any longer?". - A more interesting (unnecessary) question than will this show differ from anything??

1 minute ago, sofine11 said:

Just wait til they begin with Its So Easy 

Hahahaha. It'll be you.... And me..... Maybe 8-9 others. 

Did it seriously drop from 211 members to 95 within 5 minutes??

Russ... Are any members here in attendance? 

Open with Hardschool. Seriously. If performed well, vocally speaking, it'd kick serious ass. 

I can't wait to see how Axls hairs grown out.  Has he finally grown a proper beard? We will soon see.... 

Ok.... Predictions? Same ol bullshit, predictable set list, or something "new"? And by new, I don't mean an additional cover song or Illusion deep cut. 

"The Garden" or "Don't Damn Me" would be awesome, though. 

Just now, Marcelo Garay said:

Nice to see 210 members online

Seriously. Haven't seen this many since the leaks. Or is this less than the amount of active users during that time?

Any truth to Hardschool being played at soundcheck? Unless there was a soundcheck earlier, given that Meegan post, well, someone just predicted the future or was simply lying. Either way, I hope that just play the goddamn song.

I couldn't care less the band, as it is today, had no part whatsoever in writing it. Hardschool is great and even with a decent/good performance of it, I guarantee itd go over MUCH better than the predictable half assed and disastrous Jungle/Sweet Child/Paradise City medley. 

If Guns gives a shit about it's future, musically speaking, they will play something new, or new-ish, Axl will give it his "AC/DC "-best and it could benefit them greatly. They already are selling out shows, touring nonstop. Why not just play Hardschool, surprise people with something new and do it well? 

Most likely Answer: This is Guns N Roses we are talking about. I'm not trying to be negative. I want them to succeed and blow people away with something other than sold out shows, and making ridiculous amounts of money. 

The quality of the music is there. And all the potential in the world. Take this opportunity, for Christ's sake. 

 I just started watching his (as well as some others) reaction video's just recently.... Yeah, they are all basically pointless but harmless. 

I tend to enjoy the "First Reaction" guys (there's quite a few) more than the vocal couch criticisms (Beth is way more watchable. She's got an appreciation for Jeff Buckley, too so she's cool in my book)

As for Tamplin.... He was amusing for about a second. I wouldn't say he dislikes Axl/GNR at all. He probably resents the massive achievements of Guns/Simultaneously picking apart more less terrible performances to make himself look better? I dunno . He's just unfortunately reacting to those horrendous Tokyo performances. How's he to know there's much, MUCH better (and worse) shows he could be reacting to?

I see in the comments someone suggested Rock AM Ring KOHD. Now that would be difficult for him to critique but he would, anyways, I'm sure. Probably would comment more on Axls cornrows than the quality of the performance. 

Keep him far, far away from VMAS 2002, BridgeSchool and anything from 2019. 

Tamplin himself, while clearly talented (and I'll take his own word of what a successful vocal coach he is)... The guys got just another generic, uninteresting rock type voice. He's way high strung, especially in the "Sweet Child/I'll show you my belly-video". How many times did he mention he doesn't drink coffee??

Plus, he's constantly interrupting his own videos, which is funny in itself. His tendency to sing over an impressive line or note is equally annoying and kinda funny/stupid.

But whatever. I will continue watching his videos as long as he continues to make somewhat of an ass out of himself. Having said that, again, he does seem like a nice dude, with a pretty extensive knowledge of vocal techniques, etc. 

I take it back. His reaction video for VMA 2002 would be uncomfortably, highly entertaining. He'd probably laugh/mock his way through it. 

Sidenote: In his recent Belly/Here's My ManBoobs/Sweet Child vid, he did make me chuckle when he imitated Axls dancing/ spin move by swinging his own chair around. Haha. Dope. 

20 minutes ago, Mendez said:

 

See above

Oh, ok. Cool observations. His rendition of Prostitute give it more of like, an Alice In Chains-Vibe with the heavy drums. Which sound different, but pretty great.

Also, did you ever let him hear the originals after he layed down his own drums? It'd be cool to hear his opinion on the difference in approach, especially Prostitute. 

22 hours ago, Mendez said:

Let me know what you think!

Wow. Hearing Prostitute like that, it just never occurred to me without the drum loops/beats, how different it could or would have sounded! 

It's interesting. At first it felt like the song lost some energy without the tempo of the the original drums, but it brings out more of the guitar with how he played it, very well.... Makes it more of a slow burner, a good thing and sounds pretty great when it goes heavy. 

See if he will do The Blues or something. Maybe Shacklers Revenge? 

Any way to hear his TWAT and Prostitute? I quite enjoyed hearing that instrumental of Better. Guitar sounds good, too. Nice tone. 

23 minutes ago, Amir said:

Has any version leaked in full that had the additional guitar/synth parts from the 1:17 phone recording?

That's what I was wondering! Right before the cellphone clip cuts out, I swear I heard a lil guitar riff that sounded quite nice in that part of the song behind Axls vocals. Good catch with the synth, too. I didn't notice it. Headphones make it much more enjoyable and easier to spot the difference's. 

This drums up version is quite good!  I didn't even really care for the song at first, either. It really does grow on ya.

Particularly When Axl jumps into second part of the song at the 1:41 mark there is a pretty kick ass/kinda pretty synth thing going on that I really dig, and sounds wonderful as Axls singing the line "To be half as strong, to still belong". Man. What a difference this version and a few additional listens can make.

So it doesn't really sound as we, or at least I expected it to. But I say that's a good thing. We can't expect art to work around our expectations. Atlas drums up = 9 outta 10 for me. 

Russ, are you the last living, decent GNR fan member on here?? 

P.S. Can we unban Kaneda now?

Bastards!! Well, I guarantee all those Discord members will be permanently banned. Kaneda was right. It's a toxic environment, those Discords. 

1 minute ago, TheSeeker said:

What songs from the Chinese Democracy sessions would have been a hit in 2001

Name one

The title track got pity airplay in 2008 and quickly died off

Better, had it not been pro-tooled to death. Misread that. Ok. The Blues, I'd say. 

22 minutes ago, GoForJMark said:

I may or may not be there in the minority here, but it's kinda meh. I don't know, maybe Hard school kinda raised the bar for me. 

Unfortunately, I feel the same way. Hardschool, minus maybe the mid section, unnecessary guitar noodling, did set the bar a bit high. The best part of Atlas was/is the first minute, which is exactly the section that was leaked earlier in the cellphone clip.

Akin to how occasionally a movie trailer gives away the best moments of the movie, but you don't realize it until you see the movie? Yeah, it's kinda like that.

The snippet was a tease but a good one. However, the rest of this song is just SO embarrassingly.... Average. The guitar solo is even not that impressive. Its way too short, not memorable in the least. I stick by my previous statement: Catcher has it beat, easily. 

But don't misunderstand. I do like it! I just expected more, I suppose. I'm 99.9 percent sure Axls got stronger material than Atlas, despite its mythical reputation of being an A-List "Big Gun"

5 minutes ago, Slave to the Dave said:

Sounds very much like Jeff Buckley to me......not a huge fan of Axl's voice on this one though, I prefer when he projects and has a more resonant warm tone

Perhaps the guitar tone and such sound like something off Buckleys "Grace", but... I love both GNR and Jeff Buckley but this song is by no means as good as anything off "Grace" . At least not this version of Atlas. A more properly mixed Atlas, reworked a bit, however, yes..  Could be wonderful. But to me, Catcher in the Rye is much, much better of a song overall. 

I know I'm beating a dead horse here, but is it just me or does the song (sounding as though it's just repeating the first part over and over)...

Well, it almost sounds like it gets worse as it goes along, like the instrumentation goes from good, starts out strong with the guitars/vocals and then almost devolves, sounds more "poppy" (in a bad, Third Eye Blind, kinda way) and more empty as it goes along... I don't know. Just something about it is a little off for me. I'd love to love it. Unfortunately, I just kind of like it. Almost.  :/

First impressions: Naturally, not much of anything can live up to so much hype but it does, sadly sound very average and underwhelming. And I really hate saying that. The solo isn't nearly as good as Catcher. Nor is the song itself. Just another stupid opinion, I know. 

34 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said:

Let's see here,

Scenario 1- Insane fan has stolen tracks and documents regarding Axl including damming emails and an alleged copy of a potential book. Blackmails band with a set of demands saying if they don't announce a tour in x amount of time, he will leak them

TB's Response- Let's put him on payroll!

Scenario 2- Clearly unstable and infamous individuals with a well-documented history of abuse and over obsession with Axl Rose begin doxxing people, taking down almost every video they can on YouTube, and literally try to harm people's personal lives over nothing. They are also in frequent contact with the person in scenario 1, often working together. The issue is brought up to Fernando...

TB's Response- Let's let them do what they want! They are allies to us!

Scenario 3- 20 year old demos that mostly sound completely incomplete might leak. This artist has released ONE album in almost 30 YEARS. The fans are starved for artistic output and would pay for any new album. The general public is sure to not to give a shit or even know about said leak.

TB's Response- Use intimidation tactics, cruelty, and individuals in above two scenarios to ensure this stuff doesn't get out to spite the fans. Continue to not release shit.

Ok. You make ALOT of good points here. I almost agree with everything you said. But seriously.... MSL isn't actually on payroll, is he??? That's absurd. And the "other one", Walker, Walter, whatever the fuck his name is..... That douchbag, harassing multiple people is ANOTHER associated now with Team Brazil?

Ok. I stand corrected. They literally hire these unstable, self-serving leeches and now, leaks are the "Enemy"??? 

No, it's untrustworthy, unimportant, insignificant bastards who are compensated for making threats, monitoring copyrighted material (let's be honest, a fucking MONKEY can do that) and treated as kings when they are merely peasants? Okkkk.... SERIOUSLY.... Fuck them.

As the great poet once sang, "We live and learn and then sometimes it's best to walk away". Well....  Not in this case....

If they want a job they clearly don't deserve, let's give them one. As in, try containing The Holy Grail now, you imbeciles. Whomever can keep 2 morons employed for the next 10 years, let's make them really earn it. 

Open the floodgates....safely, securely and discreetly. Material we aren't entitled to is NOTHING compared to the harassment and threats I've heard about. That's a serious, terrorist-type of threat there. 

Say goodnight, TB. And say hello to Team_C_2_Democeacy-Starts_Now!!

And no, I have absolutely nothing in my possession. Just the knowledge that when you threaten a person's family, and as a result, you GET A FUCKING JOB because of it, all bets are off.