smoking guns

here's :49 of BD from Brisbane! tbh, I'm hooked enough from this to want to hear the whole thing!

About damn time! That was awesome!!!

Brad whitford came on stage yesterday ! rock2

01 Ghost

02 Mean Bone

03 Nightrain

04 Been There Lately

05 Rocket Queen

06 Civil War

07 Nothing to Say

08 Back From Cali

09 Starlight

10 Always on the Run

11 We're All Gonna Die

12 Walkin' The Dog (w/ Brad Whitford from AEROSMITH)

13 Jizz Da Pit

14 Just Like Anything

15 Mr. Brownstone

16 Sweet Child O' Mine

17 Rise Today

18 Slither

Encore:

19 By The Sword

20 My Michelle

21 Paradise City

hahaha I was there! great show. It was pretty funny that for the first half of btw sword, slash went through two guitars. He was barely on stage until his solo. I was at the very front and myles and I kept making eye contact and he'd roll his eyes and laugh.

And good luck finding video of this one. Security was super tight about video. They were cool with just about everything, but i talked to one of the guys and he said the usual, no flash photography or video, anything else is cool. They were getting on to people left and right about taping though.

Awesome!!

Wow, that Messages from Madagascar was fantastic. Axl's vocals with Slash's guitars is pure magic.

What new song did they play last night?

I wouldn't doubt if Slash was in London too. He probably attended the Ronnie Wood show with Duff..

Holy shit, let the rumors begin..... Especially since Slash is on Ronnie's new album.

You can end those rumors. Slash was in New York at the time

Love the inside info... You don't have to say it, I am putting the pieces together... Duff let Slash in on the meeting, Duff and his coolness will smooth things over with Axl and Slash, its just a matter of time now. Was Axl impressed with Slash's playing on the most recent tour, so much so he wanted him back in the fold? Why now? Okay, could all be a chance happening..

I wouldn't doubt if Slash was in London too. He probably attended the Ronnie Wood show with Duff..

Holy shit, let the rumors begin..... Especially since Slash is on Ronnie's new album.

Do you think Duff told Slash he was going to go on stage, or maybe eat dinner with Axl and Slash said, "Cool Duff, see if you can smooth some shit over so that Axl might change his tune about a reunion..." There is no way Duff hasn't picked up the phone to his best friend Slash yet. I bet they give it a few months and make their approach to Axl in early 2011, then take it from there.. Maybe VR can tour their next album for a 2012 true GNR reunion! Or maybe Axl is the next singer of VR... HAHAHAHAHA

Wow, I got chills. Axl has improved so much during this tour and this is absolute proof. Wow.

Axl did great, liked the video till the Ashba solo... So much posing there, and then he wanted a big crowd reaction or something, seemed really contrived.

Like others said, I wish Axl was on the piano.

I am with Stro, they have (had) a lot of sound issues, youtube or not.

Slash is great a blues based rock, but he is not one trick pony by any means. "Nothing to Say" is pretty fucking metal. Nothing bluesy about "Slither". "Obsession" showes his spanish influence. "Vocalise" shows some Jazz style playing.

All generic and pretty crappy IMO. "IRS", "Better", "Scraped" and "Shackler's" have better, more creative riffs than anything Slash has come up with for about 25 years. No doubt.

Dude, I agree with the premise of this thread, but IRS's riff is one of the most generic on the album, second only to CD.

This is out of control, fucking Dr. Alibi may be Slash's simplest riff ever.. Some say its a Ramones riff, and even its better than most of the Riff's on CD.. Mainly because CD doesn't have that many "RIFFS".

Slash wrote the instrumental for Coma but Axl wrote all of the lyrics and all of the vocal melodies. It's as much Axl's song as it Saul's.

Axl was the one who elevated Slash and Izzy's Illusion contributions above mediocrity. Slash, Duff, and Izzy were practically drowning in a cesspool of laziness and disinterest at the time. Axl really had to take it upon himself to finish the Illusions albums. From what I understand, post-Illusions Axl wanted to get another album out but Slash kept making more and more demands, telling Axl what songs he'd be willing to play on and what songs he wouldn't be willing to play on. What a pathetic attitude. Axl never outright refused to sing on any Slash composition... infact on every single song he sings his heart out. Why couldn't Slash just do the same? Why did have to dictate what kind of songs the band should be recording and what kind of songs they shouldn't be? What a wanker.

Anyway, I think most of us can agree that GNR's breakup was a good thing ultimately. If Slash, Duff, and Izzy could have just been men about it and stopped slacking off, MAYBE it wouldn't have happened. But they expected Axl to carry them both in the studio and onstage.

I realize that sales wise CD was crushed by Contraband, but consider the massive difference between the two situations.

You're right.

One had the Guns N' Roses brand name and the other was a brand new name with no market awareness.

It really was an unfair fight I guess.

By the logic that just having members from famous bands guarantees sales, shouldn't Them Crooked Vultures be the biggest rock band out there right now considering the bands their members represent?

Fact is that Contraband was a kick ass album and was successful because the music was there. It was music the public wanted to hear. Slither (Grammy for Rock Song of the Year) and Fall to Pieces spent forever at #1 on the rock charts because they were good songs. The album sold well and received critical acclaim (higher than CD on metacritic) because it was a great album.

They had their own sound, instead of looking around and trying to copy what was popular at the time they recorded it.

People shit on CD because we already have bands they wanted to hear an album that sounded like GNR. If they wanted to listen to Korn or NIN style metal/industrial stuff they would listen to those bands.

GNR was a band that pushed/developed their own sound without regard to what was in, not a band that looked around and tried to copy what everyone else was doing to try and seem relevant. That philosophy was clearly lost by Axl in the late 90's.

If the 90's Axl were fronting the 80's GNR, we would have gotten a cock rock album instead of Appetite because that's what everyone was doing at the time. Lucky for us though he waited until later in his career to decide to become a follower instead of a leader because we were graced with Appetite and the Illusions.

I really don't think you've listened to CD. Chinese Democracy isn't even close to an industrial metal album. It has industrial elements, but that's just part of Axl's eclectic taste. He's not limited to Blues-based hardrock as Slash is. The songs have elements have many different styles in them. You must be completely fucking retarded if you think CD is an industrial album or anything like Korn/NIN.

Now Velvet Revolver... THEY were selling out by trying desperately to make "music" that "the public wanted to hear" as you put it... Axl makes the music that HE wants to hear regardless of current trends or what people want from him. That's called integrity.

You need to open your mind kiddy and expand your pathetically narrow musical tastes... there's more to music than generic riff-based hard rock. There's more to music than "what the public wants to hear". CD has variety, something Slash wouldn't know much about. Every song he's ever written post GNR sounds the same.

Slash is great a blues based rock, but he is not one trick pony by any means. "Nothing to Say" is pretty fucking metal. Nothing bluesy about "Slither". "Obsession" showes his spanish influence. "Vocalise" shows some Jazz style playing.

Slash a poor songwriter? The f? Coma, Locomotive? Yes, he's not as good as Axl in my opinion as well, but certainly not bad. Also, please keep in mind his riffs and solos. He has/had an incredible sense of melody.

You know, you don't have to openly hate Slash just because you love Axl Behave yourself

Current GNR is the most boring GNR lineup ever... And current line up GNR has never even recorded a song.

Agreed, but damn, I should have expressed myself a bit more clearly

Oh, sorry, I didn't mean to quote you... I meant to just do a regular reply. Slash and Axl could still make magic, I refuse to believe any different.

They were too enamoured with blues based hard rock numbers. I've seen no evidence that Slash or Izzy are capable of writing anything other than old-fashioned hard rock,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vodms6Pwf6I

Thank god GNR never became another Judas Priest/Iron Maiden/Kiss/Aerosmith... churning out the same cliched garbage year after year.

Funny thing being, a good bunch of those bands are more respected, bigger draws than GNR these days...

Electric version with vocals, kick ass song!

Slash a poor songwriter? The f? Coma, Locomotive? Yes, he's not as good as Axl in my opinion as well, but certainly not bad. Also, please keep in mind his riffs and solos. He has/had an incredible sense of melody.

You know, you don't have to openly hate Slash just because you love Axl Behave yourself

Current GNR is the most boring GNR lineup ever... And current line up GNR has never even recorded a song.

Reunite Slash, Duff, Axl, Izzy and you have the biggest band in the world again... As of now, not too many outside of us even know GNR is on tour. Slash coming back alone would be HUGE... GNR were the biggest band in the world and Slash is probably the most recognizable guitar player in the world today..

Axl's ego could never allow him to go back with Slash at this point even if he secretly wanted to.

Slash would be seen as the prodigal son who came back to save GNR from half filled arenas (in the U.S) and musical irrelevancy, and would probably be given credit for an inevitable resurgence in GNR's popularity compared to the CD era.

^^^^This, Naupis gets it. Ali, it doesn't matter if Axl desire's Slash back or not, he cannot, and will not let it happen. He will go down with his ship out of pride.

First off, this "secret desire" thing is completely irrelevant. If it is "secret", there is no way to confirm or deny it exists, which I don't see any reason to believe it does. Either way, there is no reason to believe a reunion will happen. All conspiracy theories and idle speculations and "secret" desires and motivations, there is no reason to think that Axl wants to work with Slash. He considers him to be a cancerous presence in his life and a liar. Sometimes, that's enough to not want to interact with someone.

Ali

Ali, we are not saying he does, we are saying that it doesn't matter if he does want Slash back, he won't do it for many reasons, the main one being his ego and taking him back in Axl's mind means Axl failed. Brian May once commented that Axl still hasn't found a replacement for Slash, Slash left a huge void for sure. We have to speculate because Axl won't give us his true feelings.

That's where I think you're wrong. He HAS given his true feelings. He called him a liar and a cancer. You say those things about people you don't trust and don't want to be associated with. I don't know how much more direct someone could be when describing how they feel about someone. Sometimes the simplest explanation is the correct one. Occam's Razor.

Ali

He is bitter, pissed, and emotional, if he used to love Slash in the past, he will always be capable to love him in the future. They are just that divorced couple where one spouse still is bitter over the divorce (Axl) and won't let go and says crazy shit like "he is a cancer" or "should have left GNR after lies". Its just plain silly.

Axl's ego could never allow him to go back with Slash at this point even if he secretly wanted to.

Slash would be seen as the prodigal son who came back to save GNR from half filled arenas (in the U.S) and musical irrelevancy, and would probably be given credit for an inevitable resurgence in GNR's popularity compared to the CD era.

^^^^This, Naupis gets it. Ali, it doesn't matter if Axl desire's Slash back or not, he cannot, and will not let it happen. He will go down with his ship out of pride.

First off, this "secret desire" thing is completely irrelevant. If it is "secret", there is no way to confirm or deny it exists, which I don't see any reason to believe it does. Either way, there is no reason to believe a reunion will happen. All conspiracy theories and idle speculations and "secret" desires and motivations, there is no reason to think that Axl wants to work with Slash. He considers him to be a cancerous presence in his life and a liar. Sometimes, that's enough to not want to interact with someone.

Ali

Ali, we are not saying he does, we are saying that it doesn't matter if he does want Slash back, he won't do it for many reasons, the main one being his ego and taking him back in Axl's mind means Axl failed. Brian May once commented that Axl still hasn't found a replacement for Slash, Slash left a huge void for sure. We have to speculate because Axl won't give us his true feelings.

Axl's ego could never allow him to go back with Slash at this point even if he secretly wanted to.

Slash would be seen as the prodigal son who came back to save GNR from half filled arenas (in the U.S) and musical irrelevancy, and would probably be given credit for an inevitable resurgence in GNR's popularity compared to the CD era.

^^^^This, Naupis gets it. Ali, it doesn't matter if Axl desire's Slash back or not, he cannot, and will not let it happen. He will go down with his ship out of pride.

Axl won't reunite, or become friends again not out of spite, or hate, or revenge but for the simple fact that in his mind, he loses. I honestly believe Axl is viewing this as a life long test of attrition.

The longer he does this nu-gnr, the longer he gives the finger to everyone and I think he likes that.

I agree completely.

This is the only reason I can figure that Axl is doing this.

Disagree completely.

It's pretty clear that he has no desire to ever go back to working with Slash and reuniting the old band. Maybe he just doesn't want to do that again and has moved on. I think it's that simple.

Ali

Ali, I think he will ALWAYS have a desire to work with Slash again. I just think his pride/ego will never let him admit that because in Axl's mind that would be a failure. Seriously, do you think Axl would rather write with Ashba or Slash, serious? Slash gets him as a guitar player better than any other guitar player has.

I don't agree at all. I think that's what some people desperately want to believe so they can cling to some hope of a reunion. Hope that if Axl finally sets aside his "pride/ego", the precious reunion will happen. Just because he and Slash had creative chemistry together, that doesn't necessarily come close to balancing whatever other issues they may have and therefore creating any motivation or desire to work with him again.

Axl has worked with Izzy. He has indicated he'd be open to working with Duff again. There is NOTHING Axl has said that has indicated any desire to work with Slash again.

Ali

Again, by Axl admitting that, it means there is a chance he was wrong, and he can't risk that. Don't understand what you are missing here. And in 1999, he told Loder the only person he could make a proper rock album with would be Slash, and because Slash is no longer in the band, he try other things musically. Axl knows Slash is the only one that can really bring the rock "GNR" style.

Axl won't reunite, or become friends again not out of spite, or hate, or revenge but for the simple fact that in his mind, he loses. I honestly believe Axl is viewing this as a life long test of attrition.

The longer he does this nu-gnr, the longer he gives the finger to everyone and I think he likes that.

I agree completely.

This is the only reason I can figure that Axl is doing this.

Disagree completely.

It's pretty clear that he has no desire to ever go back to working with Slash and reuniting the old band. Maybe he just doesn't want to do that again and has moved on. I think it's that simple.

Ali

Ali, I think he will ALWAYS have a desire to work with Slash again. I just think his pride/ego will never let him admit that because in Axl's mind that would be a failure. Seriously, do you think Axl would rather write with Ashba or Slash, serious? Slash gets him as a guitar player better than any other guitar player has.

I have seen this cover band many times, this guy nails the Axl voice.....

Check it out.

PC

SCOM

. That's the overweight version of original GNR.

They are pretty good, I don't think the vocalist is that good though I watched some other videos and the singer is actually awesome... listen to WTTJ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9L28WWeVjw&feature=related

They are badass!!!! The singer even looks like Axl, and the guy that plays Slash is dead on, maybe he can give DJ some lessons... hahaha..

I have seen this cover band many times, this guy nails the Axl voice.....

Check it out.

PC

SCOM

This is the greatest Axl vocalist ever. The band kicks fucking ass. Seen them 5 times. This guys sounds more like Axl than Axl.

I always felt GNR had some Lynyrd Skynryd in them. Slash like to pay the major pentatonic scale to which can give songs country feel. Like Intro lead lick to Paradise City. Also Slash loves double stop bends that are very common in Southern Rock and Country. Axl reminds me a lot of Ronnie Van Zant. That Smell, Simple Man, Free Bird Outro, Give Me Back My Bullets, all have elements I think that GNR has in Songs like Civil War, Paradise City, KOHD, Breakdown, Locomotive, etc.

You're wrong

Okay...

I always felt GNR had some Lynyrd Skynryd in them. Slash like to pay the major pentatonic scale to which can give songs country feel. Like Intro lead lick to Paradise City. Also Slash loves double stop bends that are very common in Southern Rock and Country. Axl reminds me a lot of Ronnie Van Zant. That Smell, Simple Man, Free Bird Outro, Give Me Back My Bullets, all have elements I think that GNR has in Songs like Civil War, Paradise City, KOHD, Breakdown, Locomotive, etc.