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This is gonna be a trainwreck, i cant wait to see this lol

totally... if they can get together to play like men, at least fight like little kids. would be very funny and would show their real faces.

i get the feeling that slash wouldn't mind playing one or two songs with axl, he wouldn't actually enjoy it, that wouldn't make them friends again... but, for the fans, he'd do it. slash is over it.

axl wouldn't. axl calling slash a "cancer" is enough proof to show how axl hates slash. i don't know the reason, but axl will never be on stage with slash again.

i just know one thing. if i reach my 50 years, i'll try not to be such an arrogant and hateful person like axl. that's ok for an young dude, but, crap, you're 50 man, stop being such a child.

it's funny how people talk about Axl "moving on" when the guy releases ONE album in almost two decades, hasn't showed interest in releasing any more new music and, in cocerts, plays 80% od old songs and one "new" song here and there. Axl hasn't moved on.

duff seems to be the only normal guy from all 5 of them.

slash: wont shut his mouth about axl hating him.

steven: wont shut up about hating the new band

izzy: doesn't care about fans, won't show up.

axl: big child, full of anger and surrounded by his yes-men. won't feel comfortable with people as important as him.

duff: hasn't said anything negative. hasn't fueled rumours (afaik). classy dude.

yeah, GnR name was always Axl idea and vision. I guess the hype involving the induction would help sales. Sure, some people would be fooled, but I believe there are people out there that believe Slash is still in the band... Even after all these years. I share the same dream scenario of some people here.

Right after RNRHOF, press release, new single, release date. That would be awesome...

Seeing pics from the early 2000's is so weird. I loved that era, even with 4 shows a year. Axl in the end of 2001 was looking great.

not understanding why old lineups of the band being inducted into HOF is the perfect time to announce new album w/ current lineup. would actually seem like the worst time.

Better than in total silence, right? After all, it's the same name.

GnR are getting positive reviews. Greatest Hits is up on the charts. There is the Hall of Fame in some days. This buzz is enough for them to get good sales/press. Won't happen, anyway. Just my e-expert opinion.

axl, slash duff and that's it for me. i said in another topic how Izzy could be the one holding the full reunion back. From Adler's interview, that seems to be true.

i never liked steven, izzy is cool but he prob wont show up. so that leaves the three of them. give me matt and gilby, no problem.

Two new songs would shut up all the naysayers and be an early birthday present for all the fans!!!!

nothing.

NOTHING.

NOTHING will EVER shut up all the naysayers. not a new song. not a new album. not a reunion. not anything ever.

nothing short of a time machine will ever shut up all the naysayers, and even then, they might complain that the time machine doesn't have AC.

not all of them, but some of these so called "naysayers" are just fans eager for new material. anywhere in the internet, you'll find "cupcakes" (oh how i hate this term) and yes, they will always try to cause trouble. i'm sure 90% of the posters considered "haters" here would be happy with hearing new material. what you call naysayers are, in fact, frustated fans that like to share their feelings and should be allowed to do that, if it bothers you, just ignore it.

from what i see things, slash has no problems playing with the old guys. he's not exactly blaming axl. but if you stop to analyze it: duff is ok with everybody, izzy as well, steven could feel a little bitter towards axl but he is dying for a reunion... so, it's up to axl, apparantelly. could be izzy, being the reclusive guy he is.

so, probably axl and izzy are the ones not allowing it to happen. and if axl was up to do it but his management rejected it, i would lose a lot of respect for the guy.

That's how bands used to work though. Play the first single and a couple other songs before the album comes out, to create buzz for the next album!

It seems like everybody, Axl included, is placing way too much importance on the vault songs or playing a new song live. If they still have 'big guns" waiting on ice, then just pick the 4th or 5th best song and tell the crowd "here is a fun little song we've been working on, let's see if you like it." Playing 1-2 new songs isn't going to send all 10,000 people to the bathroom and beer garden.

Maybe I'm different than most fans of a band. Whenever I'm at a concert and hear the opening notes to a song I've never heard before I get goose bumps and get excited. It's like the first time kissing a new girl. So I don't know why people think casual fans (those willing to pay $100 for the show) are going to get mad and riot if the band plays one or two new songs.

Just my opinion though! I just think it would be an awesome nice for the band to break out a new song or two. Adding estranged, civil war, you're crazy were great moves and the fans really appreciated those additions. Two new songs would shut up all the naysayers and be an early birthday present for all the fans!!!!

Just a thought......not making a demand or telling GnR how to run their band. Just a wish from a fan!

well said, man. it would do more good than harm. it's a win-win situation. the fans would love it, and it's a good way to test the new material. can't really see why there is no new material being played live.

It's funny how Axl worshippers think that if you don't like everything Axl does or feel frustated by something regarding new gnr you are a Slash fan.

Not my case, I don't care about Slash, already said in other thread I know ONE VR song.

I'm just not blind, you know?

From how I see things both Slash and Axl are arrogant assholes. I just think Slash is cool with everybody nowadays, too old to keep fighting. The guy is over GnR. Axl almost always puts himself as the victim. Come on! just get over it. Speak with your music, with your new band and forget the past. Even if you are bitter about it. You're 50, man. Let the music do the talking.

He should be ready for this. He got the name, he knew the consequences for doing that. I know that deep down, they are not assholes, money changed their lifes. For one last night, these guys should reunite, shake hands, and move on.

@gunsnroses Now taking guesses on when the riff rips on G N' R 2012 Tour of Europe, what you got? #TimeWillTell

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10 years ago, I might have read this and been curious about what it meant and thought it may lead to some new song/bit of information. But now ive become immune to all the mysterious enigmatic crap.

"@gunsnroses Now taking guesses on when the riff rips on G N' R 2012 Tour of Europe, what you got? #TimeWillTell"

Utter bullshit, if you cant communicate in simple language just don't bother. Its pointless.

well said

wtf is happening here ? someone please explain to me ?

Basically, Bumblefoot confirmed that Going Down is a new song and NOT an 'old blues cover' like he said before.

oh shit, that's good. and what about OMG and the upcoming setlist that someone said?

He said OMG can be played eventually, bumblecool posted his exact quote here.

The upcoming setlist thing was just some bullshit that guy posted, Ron didn't say really much about it. He only said the band will not have time to rehearse before the European tour, which can be understood as the same setlist from the UCAP tour BASICALLY, and hinted at how he would like to play Perfect Crime (and confirmed they rehearsed with Robin back in 2007).

He also said he was kinda afraid to play his own songs in his solo spot instead of the Pink Panther theme, but actually said it could be a cover tune like Strawberry Fields.

God bless voodoochild

lol

At least there are some hope about OMG, Perfect Crime and Ron's new solo. Maybe they'll not have time because they will be at the studio ?

dont fool yourself. the wont have time because axl will be partying and the other guys will be doin solo stuff whenever they can.

I'm a fan of the classic line-up and the line-up with Brain, Bucket and Robin. Ron, Dj and Frank are too generic. I have no problem with Slash, Izzy or Steven being replaced by Robin Bucket and Brain, but I would prefer a reunion any time now.

Since the anti-climatic release of CD I feel very frustated with GnR. The album itself is great, though.

Sounded sincere. Ron is a good person. Hope he gets better from his back pain.

I think u are putting to much importance into it.

This is rock and roll. Axl could play a couple songs with the old guys and it won't have lifetime career consequences.

It would just be a fun thing to do. Nothing more, nothing less.

THIS. Holy shit people over analyze the absolute hell out of this rrhof thing. All this talk about it undoing the new bands progress, etc. is just so absurd to me.

i agree with you guys. all the world would love to watch this one night. and that's it. gnr isn't a big band anymore. it will be on the news for a one or two days. it wont undo anything because there isn't anything to be undone. all the current band has is the name and this same current band would have a blast watching those 5 guys playin together, maybe even tommy, who never liked gnr.

"Axl could play a couple songs with the old guys and it won't have lifetime career consequences."

What music industry experience do you have that qualifies you to make that determination?

Nobody is questioning your right to express what you would like to see or what you think could or should take place, but what expertise or knowledge do you have that makes you able to definitively determine what would or would not have longterm consequences on the efforts of current GNR?

Another poster who believes fans must have a phd in psychology, economy, etc to post their opinions. It's just an opinion man, calm the fuck down.

He has the right to express himself, like you said. It's his opinion. What knowledge does he have? Same as yours probably, same as mine, regular people. If you don't like to give your opinions because you think you are not wise enough, respect other people's option to give theirs, being a complete ignorant or not. Kudos to you if you think that your ignorance is not worth sharing.

And I'll put DJ's best riffs from the last five years up against Slash's any day.

:rofl-lol: Funniest post of the year.

Funny indeed. And some people call me delusional.

Well, I don't like Slash's solo carreer. I have heard ONE Velvet Revolver song my whole life. I don't like bluesy-hard rock. I loved AFD and UYI as a kid, but I grew up listening to so many styles that I just can't have much respect for such an unoriginal style as hard rock nowadays.

I really disliked Slash for that. For being stuck in one style. Certainly the reason Axl and Slash had problems was their different taste and vision music wise.

Well, the current version of GnR looks and sounds very hard rock. Specially Axl. He's got more of that hard rock visual now than in the UYI tours. It's weird. The concert setlists are also mostly straight forward rock n' roll, the only CD songs included are the ones with a more traditional style.

I believe Axl and Slash are not thinking so differently about music, as of today. Axl didn't include a Moby or a NIN cover in his live show recently but a Rolling Stone tune. So, I believe that after playing together and putting all differences aside, they could work together again. In my opinion they are in the same music "mood".

Slash seems a lot more open-minded than in the past (recorded with Fergie, Travis Barker, etc) and Axl looks tired of experimental and modern music and is trying to get back to basics (it's not a fact, just my opinion, ok e-nazis?). I wouldn't like the songs probably. But if I could choose between a hard rock sounding GnR album with Slash or Ashba, my pick would be Mr. Hudson.

But if I had a third option: gimme more of those bucket and finck tracks, no question.

It would be great that before a new tune Axl would tell the author, you know... like he did with Silkworms in RIR3.

you know, axl reminds me of brazilian soccer players... having a poor childhood, being humiliated and suddenly... you are a star, a big star, you get money. and then, when you see, you turn into an arrogant and egoccentric person. you want to do things for yourself and fuck the others. you want to show those who humiliated you how good your life is now. you have a big talent, you have the world in your hands, but you really don't care about it. parties, being the center of all attentions, that seems the right thing to do. bad agents, law suits, scandals are just a consequence.

then you start to fade away.... your fans no longer care about you, you look old, you are not the same, you can't perform like you could back then, you start to become a joke, you promise that things will happen, but all you do is live from the past, having a nostalgic thing going on and make everybody wonder "oh, how things could be different if..."

it must be depressing, some people are never meant do be famous, they can't hold the pressure, they can't handle being in the public eye. they need fans to tell how they don't owe the fans anything.

it's funny, this is typical of people from my country, you are born poor, you can get some money but you'll be poor for the rest of your life, spending money with the wrong things and spending time with the wrong people. the ignorance will always remain.

and it fits axl perfectly. he's lucky because he found Beta to give his life some balance and control.

maybe axl is not apprehensive to release things. maybe axl is apprehensive of just being the lead singer of gnr. his mind is too weak for that. even in his 50s he hasn't learned yet how to be professional.

You're comparing him to Vágner Love?

I can see the resemblance.

Him and many others. They are VERY similar cases.

not a chance, imo. and since "chinese democracy tour" looks finally over, we may see even less CD material in the upcoming shows, i guess. maybe a cover or two.

Axl is afraid of rejection. Very simple and obvious. Not knocking him, just stating the obvious. He doesn't "get" how amazing he is. He is EXTREMELY insecure. Releasing more material opens himself up to more criticism and rejection.

(Be careful with these posts, they'll ask you your pschology degree. Don't have an opinion. Don't make questions. Don't use your brain and then you'll be accpeted as a fan.)

I agree with you completely.

you know, axl reminds me of brazilian soccer players... having a poor childhood, being humiliated and suddenly... you are a star, a big star, you get money. and then, when you see, you turn into an arrogant and egoccentric person. you want to do things for yourself and fuck the others. you want to show those who humiliated you how good your life is now. you have a big talent, you have the world in your hands, but you really don't care about it. parties, being the center of all attentions, that seems the right thing to do. bad agents, law suits, scandals are just a consequence.

then you start to fade away.... your fans no longer care about you, you look old, you are not the same, you can't perform like you could back then, you start to become a joke, you promise that things will happen, but all you do is live from the past, having a nostalgic thing going on and make everybody wonder "oh, how things could be different if..."

it must be depressing, some people are never meant do be famous, they can't hold the pressure, they can't handle being in the public eye. they need fans to tell how they don't owe the fans anything.

it's funny, this is typical of people from my country, you are born poor, you can get some money but you'll be poor for the rest of your life, spending money with the wrong things and spending time with the wrong people. the ignorance will always remain.

and it fits axl perfectly. he's lucky because he found Beta to give his life some balance and control.

maybe axl is not apprehensive to release things. maybe axl is apprehensive of just being the lead singer of gnr. his mind is too weak for that. even in his 50s he hasn't learned yet how to be professional.

You have a degree in in psychology from University São Paulo or something?

oh, sorry, forgot that a phd is required to have an opinion here. won't happen again, Dr. Flayer.

You are probably one of those kids who took an intro course on psychology and think you are a licensed therapist.

if you don't have any relevant thing to post, you shouldn't post anymore, my friend. i'm not the one being discussed in this thread. axl is.

if i'm not allowed to give my opinions about the lead singer of the band discussed on this forum. i don't know where i can, please show me another message board where they accept opinions and don't get angry with posts that don't kiss axl's ass.