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I'm sorry but he sounds like shit in that stream almost Rio 2011 bad .... now you can point the finger at the mix the soundman, or whoever the hell you want but at the end of the day his voice since 2011 has been lacking, sure there are moments of brilliance and the Axl of old but for the most part this sounds strained and his voice quickly transfers back to a high pitched often out of tune weak squeak that to be honest is painful to listen too. I don't know what has transpired over the past couple of years but it must be some illness/infection of some description which is effecting his vocals. I'm one of the biggest GN'R fans you are likely to find but I have to admit that right now Axl's vocals are the achilles heal in an otherwise great show.

Don't post here much but felt the need to after watching the RiR performance last night/this morning....

Its such a shame that things went down the way they did...

It looked as though Axl was on something he looked completely glazed over at times... Maybe its not a case of not preparing it could be that the guy isn't well lets face it we know nothing about his personal life... I realise forgetting lyrics of songs he must have sang 1000's of times is completely inexcusable but for me a few early mistakes seemed to throw him out of sync and it snowballed from there. Who knows what way it affected him or played on his mind.

Anyway I just think its a little unfair to automatically call for his head without knowing the full circumstances - Its obvious something was very much wrong and if it was just a case of him being too lazy to practice or rehearse then thats a complete insult to everyone who buys a ticket to see Guns N' Roses but this would appear to be a complete contradiction for an artist who is often noted for being a perfectionist. So I think it may be down to something else health, personal circumstances etc. we will probably never know but lets see how the rest of the shows on this tour go.

I was talking to two fans who stuck it out until the end of the gig. I met them yesterday on the train home. They described Ask as standing at the back like a statue and said he was "a sulking little bollix." Not everyone who stayed appreciated his attitude.

He stood still. But he was still singing great. I was glad the show went on in any form. Not the best GNR show. But still far greater than any other show!!!!!

I disagree it was crushing to see my favourite lead singer of all time show such disinterest and disrespect towards all of the fans - To be honest in a way I wish I didn't stay to the end and thats something I never thought I'd say as a die hard fan of GnR in all incarnations. I'm sure if we ever get a comment on the gig from Axl he will place the blame firmly on the asshole who threw the cups / the security / promoters etc. But when he came back on there was no crowd issues whatsoever it was just bad form what he did in my book.

I'm pretty sure it was the same small group of people that kept throwing things - the crowd as a whole was really behind the band especially when they came back on which was pretty surprising I thought.

Hi all,

I don't post much on this place as I try to just enjoy the band for what they are and not get involved in the political stuff. I've been a lurker on here since 2002 and have always supported the band and Axl through everything and defended them without a second thought to friends who like to say the usual shit about "its not Guns N' Roses", Axl is a prick yada yada yada.... I drove 100miles to get Chinese Democracy because I heard of a shop that was selling it a day early, And I queued for 7 hours in the blistering heat at the 06 RDS gig just to get into the pit so you could say that I'm a pretty hardcore fan!!

Ever since this tour was announced I had been hoping for an Irish gig and was delighted when the O2 date was announced I had planned to go to Belfast but I had a thesis due for college the following day so it wasn't an option. Having watched 100s of videos of the bands performances on this tour I was really physced about this gig. But what a let down it turned out to be now Ive no problem waiting for the band to come on I know its a constant cause for debate on here but I knew this when I bought my ticket, I don't understand people who get pissed off about it ... they know the score if they dont like it then they shouldn't buy a ticket. Waiting an hour or 2 for Axl and the band to come on and give a mindblowing performance is nothing compared to the years I spent waiting for the opportunity to see them in the 1st place. They were an hour late coming on and I do believe it was due to genuine technical difficulties because the roadies were doing a lot of set up work and when Axl came on it was clear he was having some problems with hearing himself/the band so I don't think people should necessarily hang Axl for that! There was some booing but from where I was standing by the opening chords of WTTJ the band had won the crowd over. I got a clear view of the plastic cup being thrown at Axl and I knew straight away what was going to go down, At first I didnt necessarily think it would be such a bad thing as often times an event like this can fuel an even more intense performance, but it wasn't to be.

Axl seemed to be pretty pissed off and the second cup thrown at Richard Fortus was all he needed. Now to be honest I cant blame the guy he is up there giving it everything only for some fuck head to throw shit at him it must be a bad experience and to be honest he was right to go off stage until the situation was taken care of. But when he came back on I have to say I lost a great deal of respect for the man, the crowd really got behind him cheering the band big time and chanting 'Axl Axl Axl' but it was to no avail he stood in the one spot all night and never interacted whatsoever with the audience it was down right disrespectful towards the 99.9% of genuine fans who had travelled from all over the country to see him. There was no issue whatsoever with any bad behavior from the crowd after the band came back on and afaik the trouble maker had been ejected but Axl insisted on just giving the bare minimum nothing more it was very much like a work to rule he refused to do a solo before NR, did no singalong for KOHD and even gestured to Frank when the band were playing an extended outro to Nightrain. I would have even forgiven him for all this if he had of said to hell with it and performed PC properly but it was more of the same - the shortest version of the song I ever heard followed by him just walking off at the end and even still the crowd was on his side.

I'm sorry Axl yes you shouldn't have to put up with some asshole throwing shit but coming back on and letting that stupid fuck get the better of you and ruining the whole show for every other member in attendance was every bit as disrespectful to me personally and everyone else in the audience who came to see you and your band perform as the person who threw the cup was to you.

I've always managed to see things from Axl's point of view - I believe that he is often misunderstood and I cant begin to imagine the amount of bullshit he has to put up with and perhaps Ive always viewed him with rose tinted glasses because as a performer he is nothing short of mesmerizing, but last night changed that I can honestly say that I enjoyed the show more when he and the bad vibe he brought with him were off stage as the band is amazing and tried their best to counteract Axl's buzz kill. It was almost as if he thought the show would have been great if it wasn't for the fans being there.

On a better note Id like to mention Richard Fortus he is often the forgotten guitarist of the band but last night he was superb and his interaction and dedication to the crowd was great.

Finally Axl you looked for an apology from the Reading promoter for your fans. For what its worth I think you should do the same and apologise to the Irish fans who came to your show cheered their brains out for you all night and didn't get anything in return.

Any word on a pit ? Really want to get as close to the band as I can to get the full on experience!!

Were not sure if a pit will even be included, but I'll be getting there early to make sure.

Also the show is around 90% sold out now.

I would imagine it will be available - I'm wondering is 2pm too late to start queuing to get into the pit

any ideas what time you would want to start queuing at to get a pit pass ?

Got my tickets yesterday too can't fuckin wait - what time would you need to be queuing at to get into the pit I wonder