iftheworld Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 -Brain came up with the original idea for the song (that's from Brain himself)-Marco Beltrami did orchestration for it (from Marco's website)-Bach says it's "by far the heaviest metal tune I've ever heard Axl do, it's this slow grinding riff with these high piercing vocals"-The General is heavy-The General is like EstrangedAnd...-The General was heard already (some parts)< So... do you guys think it's Checkmate or any jam/solo played alive?I'm not a qualified therapist. I don't know a lot of shit about this, but I do know we're not in the 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 (edited) people keep making topics about this song, i would love to hear it too but i think we should be happy with chinese democracy for now, until the band stops touring for this album we shouldnt be asking about thisIf this album wasn't finished (It is.) you may have a point. Also, keep in mind that last year Axl insinuated that he wanted it to come out the same time next year. Fans chomping at the bit and buzzing about this should not be met with resentment and hostility. This band is lucky they have fans who are dying to hear what else is 'in the can' from the CD era. I say release it already, make the fans incredibly happy, and then move on making new music with the current lineup. Why is that so unreasonable, just becuase they're still touring CD? Edited April 12, 2010 by sofine11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bonham Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 The 16 second leak deemed "Checkmate" was a song written by Brain, and he plays on it.Leads me to believe Checkmate leak is The General.checkmate is from '99 ... when did Brain join the band? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 The 16 second leak deemed "Checkmate" was a song written by Brain, and he plays on it.Leads me to believe Checkmate leak is The General.checkmate is from '99 ... when did Brain join the band?2000, when Freese's contract was up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlossacanell Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 I remember reading a long time ago that an Axl´s song (can´t remember if it was the general) had a woman opera singer chorus in it ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 I remember reading a long time ago that an Axl´s song (can´t remember if it was the general) had a woman opera singer chorus in it ...I remember that too. The rumor was that Sarah Brightman (the original Christine in Phantom of The Opera) was to sing witn Axl, possibly on The General. No idea if there is any truth to that, if any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bonham Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 The 16 second leak deemed "Checkmate" was a song written by Brain, and he plays on it.Leads me to believe Checkmate leak is The General.checkmate is from '99 ... when did Brain join the band?2000, when Freese's contract was up.So Checkmate is not The General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoBrA2168 Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 The 16 second leak deemed "Checkmate" was a song written by Brain, and he plays on it.Leads me to believe Checkmate leak is The General.checkmate is from '99 ... when did Brain join the band?2000, when Freese's contract was up.So Checkmate is not The GeneralHow do we know that leak is from 1999?Whatever, I asked Brain myself via email a long time ago, said it was him on the track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManetsBR Posted April 13, 2010 Author Share Posted April 13, 2010 The 16 second leak deemed "Checkmate" was a song written by Brain, and he plays on it.Leads me to believe Checkmate leak is The General.checkmate is from '99 ... when did Brain join the band?2000, when Freese's contract was up.So Checkmate is not The GeneralHow do we know that leak is from 1999?Whatever, I asked Brain myself via email a long time ago, said it was him on the track.Dude, Brian told me he was going to tour with GNR in 2009/10... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plonker88 Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 Please don't leak this song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITW 2012 Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 It'd be nice to get a new album this year. Would be a nice good will gesture towards the hardcore fan base. Plus, we're kind of dying for something new to talk about around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plonker88 Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 It'd be nice to get a new album this year. Would be a nice good will gesture towards the hardcore fan base. Plus, we're kind of dying for something new to talk about around here.That happens at the end of every leg of the tour. It will pick back up when the Europe leg starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpi Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 in negotiations with a new wrestling organization. if i get the job, i'll put up $5,000 to try to get us this song.have you heard it in full? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashysdad Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 I bet it's got a kick ass Buckethead solo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlossacanell Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 I remember reading a long time ago that an Axl´s song (can´t remember if it was the general) had a woman opera singer chorus in it ...I remember that too. The rumor was that Sarah Brightman (the original Christine in Phantom of The Opera) was to sing witn Axl, possibly on The General. No idea if there is any truth to that, if any.It would be so cool ... something like Freddy Mercury and Montserrat Caballe in Barcelona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plonker88 Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 I would only be happy with leaks if by close to the end of next year we have heard nothing concerning a new album and even then I wouldn't be too happy about it. The fact that there were only three songs on Chinese Democracy that I hadn't heard before really took some of the wind out of the sails for me. Plus it clearly causes huge internetal problems with the band and management which stunts any progress that can be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bonham Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 I would only be happy with leaks if by close to the end of next year we have heard nothing concerning a new album and even then I wouldn't be too happy about it. The fact that there were only three songs on Chinese Democracy that I hadn't heard before really took some of the wind out of the sails for me. Plus it clearly causes huge internetal problems with the band and management which stunts any progress that can be made.That's one way to look at it - leaks cause problems for the band.Another way to look at it is - delaying your album for 14 years causes problems for the band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesPaul_Player_91 Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 I would only be happy with leaks if by close to the end of next year we have heard nothing concerning a new album and even then I wouldn't be too happy about it. The fact that there were only three songs on Chinese Democracy that I hadn't heard before really took some of the wind out of the sails for me. Plus it clearly causes huge internetal problems with the band and management which stunts any progress that can be made.That's one way to look at it - leaks cause problems for the band.Another way to look at it is - delaying your album for 14 years causes problems for the band.Agreed. If the album was released in 2002 when it was allegedly finished then leaks wouldn't have been an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlossacanell Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 (edited) I would only be happy with leaks if by close to the end of next year we have heard nothing concerning a new album and even then I wouldn't be too happy about it. The fact that there were only three songs on Chinese Democracy that I hadn't heard before really took some of the wind out of the sails for me. Plus it clearly causes huge internetal problems with the band and management which stunts any progress that can be made.That's one way to look at it - leaks cause problems for the band.Another way to look at it is - delaying your album for 14 years causes problems for the band.Agreed. If the album was released in 2002 when it was allegedly finished then leaks wouldn't have been an issue.Exactly... my bet is that if we don´t have info about new album in a year or year and a half then leaks will surface again... MSL said the portuguese leakers had about 20 songs Edited April 13, 2010 by karlossacanell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plonker88 Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 I would only be happy with leaks if by close to the end of next year we have heard nothing concerning a new album and even then I wouldn't be too happy about it. The fact that there were only three songs on Chinese Democracy that I hadn't heard before really took some of the wind out of the sails for me. Plus it clearly causes huge internetal problems with the band and management which stunts any progress that can be made.That's one way to look at it - leaks cause problems for the band.Another way to look at it is - delaying your album for 14 years causes problems for the band.No doubt, but leaks just chuck petrol on the fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManetsBR Posted April 13, 2010 Author Share Posted April 13, 2010 Leaks always start surfacing in May/June... it's coming But as the band is touring, and being a "normal" band, I don't think leaks will surface again that soon, only if they don't announce a new CD sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 Leaks always start surfacing in May/June... it's coming But as the band is touring, and being a "normal" band, I don't think leaks will surface again that soon, only if they don't announce a new CD sooner.That's the kicker. This album will most likely be hung over the fans heads for however long Axl feels like it, much like CD, but when it slowly starts to leak they'll act like it's the end of the world and use words like 'devastating' to describe the damage they do. I was hoping they'd learn from what happned with CD leaking, and release this album accordingly. Now we're hearing rumblings of leaks surfacing in the near future. Oh well, you reap what you sow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axl_on_drums Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 I doubt anything from a possible second album will leak. Bands with the funds have ways of encrypting the music to the point where pretty much only one person with the crazy skills can open them.This is a new thing I understand. Think Coldplay are using this method for their 5th album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bonham Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 I doubt anything from a possible second album will leak. Bands with the funds have ways of encrypting the music to the point where pretty much only one person with the crazy skills can open them.This is a new thing I understand. Think Coldplay are using this method for their 5th album.if you can encrypt it, it can be decoded.Besides, there are tracks floating around that are ten years old, which will probably be superior to the finished product anyway.Buckethead > Bumblefoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plonker88 Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 I doubt anything from a possible second album will leak. Bands with the funds have ways of encrypting the music to the point where pretty much only one person with the crazy skills can open them.This is a new thing I understand. Think Coldplay are using this method for their 5th album.If something like that exists then no doubt Axl is all over that, can't blame him. Tough break MSL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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