Am I the only one who doesn't like Jimi Hendrix?

[Guest Len B'stard]

I think he's boring as hell.

Yeah but with all due respect mate, read some of your fuckin posts, you're like a fuckin cartoon teenager, i'm not suprised you find it boring, my 7 year old niece does too...but after your balls drop and you start noticing how pretty girls smell, the pieces on the board get re-ordered a tad, know what i mean?

[classicrawker]

Jimi was, quite frankly, the greatest guitar player that ever lived...period. One of the greatest musicians in popular music ever and one of the singlemost important artists ever in popular music. The guy was more that a guitar player, he was an alchemist. I mean, to be what he was...and to reach the standard he did in some 13 years of playing guitar is just phenomenal. 13 years...think about that for a second. Think about all the guitarists people compare to Jimi and how long they were actually playing and how long Jimi was and what Jimi achieved in that time, it's just amazing. 13 years, thats less time than it took to make Chinese Democracy.

Jimi wasn't just amazing in a conventional sense, he had this outstanding ability to coax and to tease and to wring these alien sounds from the guitar, the guy was just fantastic, he spurred himself on with his own playing, you can just see him getting wound up like a coil by his own playing, cheering himself on with "yeeeeeeah's", Jimi was simply the coolest motherfucker ever to grace the stage.

To think that this uneducated black guy from 50s America could write and compose the songs he did, to play the way he did with no formal training, it's just amazing, THAT is what you call gifted, thats what the word means, the ability to just play the guitar, left handed, right handed, with his teeth, with his fuckin dick, the boy could do it all. Years from now when people ask who the fuckin Mozart or Beethoven of our fuckin time is all the Stevie Ray Vaughns and Eddie Van LoadoffuckinbollocksHalen will fade into the background, there is nobody as good as Jimi on the guitar and there will be no one else in our lifetimes, Jimi was beyond words.

He had an intuitive mastery of the blues, of all sorts of musical styles that he just encorporated into his playing along with all that sound manipulation stuff he did, it's a shame that shit got labelled Acid Rock or whatever cuz...y'know, this is clearly not fuckin Cheech & Chong music, this is beautiful stuff.

The ease and the sense of style that he played the guitar with was like....it was a familiar as a limb to him, watching Jimi on film is something that i do CONSTANTLY, INCESSANTLY, you would hate Jimi Hendrix if you lived with me, i would drive you mad.

The most beautiful fuckin thing i've ever seen is Jimi at Monterey..."he's unheard of in America but he won't be after this, Ladies and Gentleman, The Jimi Hendrix Expierience!" and he's standing there is that shadow and bang, from silence it's this fuckin supercharged 6.0 ltr explosion of the fuckin notes of Killing Floor, in like triple or quadruple time, like his fingers are gonna start smoking any minute.

And the guy was so humble and meek sounding "they got a little tune runnin' round called Rock Me Baby but dig we got our own little Rock Me Baby, the words are gonna be wrong but thats OK, dig this!" and it's like, ugh, you fuckin' gangster

Apparently he could be quite a cock in real life but what do i really know about all of that y'know, just read stuff, alls i can judge is the music. And what fucking wonderful music it isss, flawless, all yous going on about "average, overrated" fuck offfffffffffffffffff, have you got fuckin ears or what?!?! Jimi's fuckin filler, Jimi's soft tracks piss all over any fuckin guitarist i ever heard.

But seriously, whats shit, what track is shit, someone tell me, Foxy Lady, Manic Depression, Red House, Can You See Me, with it's mental fuckin cascading drums and the passion in the lyrics and the delivery, thematically speaking it's pretty fuckin bluesy but the song is a fuckin' rock song, or Love & Confusion, is this LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE or just uh, DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DAAAHHH!!! confuuusion Coooooool as y'like.

and Fire, Jesus, turning Fire on is like getting shot out of a rocket, Jimi just fuckin lays into it, it makes my legs shake, it is impossible to sit still to that song. And Highway Chile and fuckin, God, which one of those songs is bad...or average, gimme a break Jimi is the fuckin' boy.

The second album is just fantastic too, probably my favorite actually, not a bad track on it, Castles Made of Sand, Spanish Castle Magic, If 6 was 9, or that other one, think i better wait til tommorowwww "click bang, what a hang, your daddy just shot poor me!"

Jimi gets flak for his lyrics cuz they're meandering a bit but i think they're just brilliant, they're colourful, they're meaningful, they have a purpose, Jimi can't be judged like other musicians because he was 100 million bajillion percent an artist first and foremost before any and everything else so, y'know, all this puerile little critics criterias that are used when people wanna pick at Jimi are kinda redundant because Jimi was out in the world tryna do his THAAAANGGG and it was unique and different and unlike anybody or anything else that came before or after.

And this notion that Jimi was some whacked out random note playing mentallist is betrayed by looking at the recording and the WAY he went about recording and the studiousness and the attention to detail and the take after re-take after re-take after re-take, with no regard for the monies being plunged into the shit, just so's Jimi could nail the sound in his head on wax, Jimi knew EXACTLY what the fuck he was doing.

And Electric Ladyland i refuse to even praise because if you don't get it with that album then there's something fuckin wrong with you, maybe you ain't meant to listen to fuckin good music, maybe you're the other side of the seesaw, after all, someone has to make up the number for the dross like fuckin....Iron Maiden and Black Sabbath and all those wanky fuckin soft lad bands, cuz you need the shite to make the brilliant that little extra bit specialer.

tl;dr

I think he's boring as hell.

And yet Syd Barrett is your idol

True that is.................the best thing that ever happened to Pink Floyd was Syd leaving the band....................same with the Stones and Brian Jones

[arnold layne]

I think he's boring as hell.

Yeah but with all due respect mate, read some of your fuckin posts, you're like a fuckin cartoon teenager, i'm not suprised you find it boring, my 7 year old niece does too...but after your balls drop and you start noticing how pretty girls smell, the pieces on the board get re-ordered a tad, know what i mean?

[classicrawker]

This is boring? fucking brilliant it is! .............If I could only go back in time to see one concert (s) it would be the 69/70 Band of Gypsy shows at the Fillmore East........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9AaQQbvT4M

Edited July 6, 2012 by classicrawker

[Guest Len B'stard]

Brian Jones was the difference between The Stones doing something original and descended into wholesale copycatting. Not that thats a bad thing, fuck me, even when they're doing their copycat thing they're fuckin wild but Brian Jones gave The Stones like...a musical identity if you will, set them apart from being just another fuckin British Blues covering band with his sitars and glockenspiels and xylaphones and all that. Thats a fuckin musician right there, Brian Jones, intuitive, Brian was fuckin cool and Brian leaving weren't the best thing that happened to The Stones, without Brian there wouldn't've been a fuckin Stones. Brian added to that bohemian cool that they had...after he was gone, it was too. After that they just had like...loutish cool. Which is a good thing too but what Brian added was something that made them very very special indeed.

But in another way, i'm kinda inclined to agree with you cuz you sorta get the impression Brian had shot his shot as far as...y'know, being a functional musician. I dunno, i guess it's one of those things you never really know. I do see your point i suppose, although i don't agree, i think his leaving was necessary for the band to evolve so perhaps on that level i agree with you but i have a special affection for the bohemian cool Stones as opposed to the latter Stones...which was brilliant and amazing too, don't want none of this to come off as a diss to later era Stones.

I think Mick and Keith were threatened by Brian too a point, although they'd die before they admitted it. They needed a shut up and do what you're told player like Mick Taylor or Ronnie Wood.

[sweetness]

He influenced too many great players to just be labeled "boring". if Wind Cries Marry, Little Wing, and Voodoo Child are boring songs I guess I don't know what great music sounds like

[Guest Len B'stard]

I think he's boring as hell.

Yeah but with all due respect mate, read some of your fuckin posts, you're like a fuckin cartoon teenager, i'm not suprised you find it boring, my 7 year old niece does too...but after your balls drop and you start noticing how pretty girls smell, the pieces on the board get re-ordered a tad, know what i mean?

Well it's true innit? Moan moan, whinge whinge, you're parents shoulda gave you a few fuckin slaps as a child, you might've come out alright "look at me, i drink, i'm gonna be a bum living under a bridge" and all this coming from some kid who ain't got the balls to leave his parents house Have you ever tried sleeping rough, i mean just for one night? You'd be knockin' on your mums door before it got dark, up in your room with your 400 cable channels, bored out of your wits with the old bird downstairs cutting the crusts off your sandwiches for ya

Edited July 6, 2012 by sugaraylen

[arnold layne]

I'm only home because I'm not at school, but whatever man.

[sweetness]

I think he's boring as hell.

Yeah but with all due respect mate, read some of your fuckin posts, you're like a fuckin cartoon teenager, i'm not suprised you find it boring, my 7 year old niece does too...but after your balls drop and you start noticing how pretty girls smell, the pieces on the board get re-ordered a tad, know what i mean?

Well it's true innit? Moan moan, whinge whinge, you're parents shoulda gave you a few fuckin slaps as a child, you might've come out alright "look at me, i drink, i'm gonna be a bum living under a bridge" and all this coming from some kid who ain't got the balls to leave his parents house Have you ever tried sleeping rough, i mean just for one night? You'd be knockin' on your mums door before it got dark, up in your room with your 400 cable channels, bored out of your wits with the old bird downstairs cutting the crusts off your sandwiches for ya

whoa man, look out, he does acid

[classicrawker]

Brian Jones was the difference between The Stones doing something original and descended into wholesale copycatting. Not that thats a bad thing, fuck me, even when they're doing their copycat thing they're fuckin wild but Brian Jones gave The Stones like...a musical identity if you will, set them apart from being just another fuckin British Blues covering band with his sitars and glockenspiels and xylaphones and all that. Thats a fuckin musician right there, Brian Jones, intuitive, Brian was fuckin cool and Brian leaving weren't the best thing that happened to The Stones, without Brian there wouldn't've been a fuckin Stones. Brian added to that bohemian cool that they had...after he was gone, it was too. After that they just had like...loutish cool. Which is a good thing too but what Brian added was something that made them very very special indeed.

But in another way, i'm kinda inclined to agree with you cuz you sorta get the impression Brian had shot his shot as far as...y'know, being a functional musician. I dunno, i guess it's one of those things you never really know. I do see your point i suppose, although i don't agree, i think his leaving was necessary for the band to evolve so perhaps on that level i agree with you but i have a special affection for the bohemian cool Stones as opposed to the latter Stones...which was brilliant and amazing too, don't want none of this to come off as a diss to later era Stones.

I think Mick and Keith were threatened by Brian too a point, although they'd die before they admitted it. They needed a shut up and do what you're told player like Mick Taylor or Ronnie Wood.

Don't get me wrong Brian was a brilliant instrumentalist and added great texture to the music he played on but he could not write music for shit and more often then not he was MIA from the creative process and mailed it in during live performances....The Stones never would have moved on had he stayed in the band....Mick Taylor breathed new life into that band and their music........

Same with Jimi IMHO...as much as I love his work with the Experience it was a dead end for him and I really love his Band of Gypsys stff and his new music he was working on in late 69 and 1970 before he died...

Edited July 6, 2012 by classicrawker

[arnold layne]

I think he's boring as hell.

Yeah but with all due respect mate, read some of your fuckin posts, you're like a fuckin cartoon teenager, i'm not suprised you find it boring, my 7 year old niece does too...but after your balls drop and you start noticing how pretty girls smell, the pieces on the board get re-ordered a tad, know what i mean?

Well it's true innit? Moan moan, whinge whinge, you're parents shoulda gave you a few fuckin slaps as a child, you might've come out alright "look at me, i drink, i'm gonna be a bum living under a bridge" and all this coming from some kid who ain't got the balls to leave his parents house Have you ever tried sleeping rough, i mean just for one night? You'd be knockin' on your mums door before it got dark, up in your room with your 400 cable channels, bored out of your wits with the old bird downstairs cutting the crusts off your sandwiches for ya

whoa man, look out, he does acid

No need to be a douche.

[sweetness]

It just blows my mind how somebody who's avatar is Syd Barret's pouting face in blotter paper... finds Jimi Hendrix "boring as hell"

[The_Universal_Sigh]

He's a talented guitar player but INCREDIBLY overrated.

I listen to albums, in full, almost 70% or so the time I listen to music. I've never finished one of his. Maybe at the time it was different but now a lot of it plods along and no album by him even touches anything by all those regarded around him at the time.

He's overrated by people that don't even truthfully love him themselves.

Party situation:

Me: Hendrix has some great songs, but he's never released a great album

Other Guy: What do you mean? Fucking purple haze, all along the watchtower, castles made of sand!

He's the kind of artist I'll say is okay and someone else will say they love but I could name more of his songs than they could. Sort of like STP in that regard.

Just becasue you don't like all the music on his albums does not mean they weren't great mate...Like any talented musician who died before his/ her time the myth is always greater than reality but that does not diminish the man's talent or influence on the music of his time.................see Buddy Holly Jim Morrison, Janis Joplin...all were "overrated" to some extent by their early death.........

I totally agree with that. He was great. He just made albums that had quite a bit of crap on them surrounding quite awesome stuff. That's all. People go on like he's perfect but he's far far from it IMO.

[MB.]

Ever listened to machine gun? That is so awesome!!!

Can't believe somebody not liking Jimi!

I posted this earlier, thank you for letting them hear CR!

This is boring? fucking brilliant it is! .............If I could only go back in time to see one concert (s) it would be the 69/70 Band of Gypsy shows at the Fillmore East........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9AaQQbvT4M

It is indeed brilliant, one of my favorites ever! Whe have the same wIsh. The album of that show is played by me weekly.

(i really appriciate your posts in this section CR, always have. Just wanted you to know).

Edited July 6, 2012 by MBRose

[Apollo]

Jimi was, quite frankly, the greatest guitar player that ever lived...period. One of the greatest musicians in popular music ever and one of the singlemost important artists ever in popular music. The guy was more that a guitar player, he was an alchemist. I mean, to be what he was...and to reach the standard he did in some 13 years of playing guitar is just phenomenal. 13 years...think about that for a second. Think about all the guitarists people compare to Jimi and how long they were actually playing and how long Jimi was and what Jimi achieved in that time, it's just amazing. 13 years, thats less time than it took to make Chinese Democracy.

Jimi wasn't just amazing in a conventional sense, he had this outstanding ability to coax and to tease and to wring these alien sounds from the guitar, the guy was just fantastic, he spurred himself on with his own playing, you can just see him getting wound up like a coil by his own playing, cheering himself on with "yeeeeeeah's", Jimi was simply the coolest motherfucker ever to grace the stage.

To think that this uneducated black guy from 50s America could write and compose the songs he did, to play the way he did with no formal training, it's just amazing, THAT is what you call gifted, thats what the word means, the ability to just play the guitar, left handed, right handed, with his teeth, with his fuckin dick, the boy could do it all. Years from now when people ask who the fuckin Mozart or Beethoven of our fuckin time is all the Stevie Ray Vaughns and Eddie Van LoadoffuckinbollocksHalen will fade into the background, there is nobody as good as Jimi on the guitar and there will be no one else in our lifetimes, Jimi was beyond words.

He had an intuitive mastery of the blues, of all sorts of musical styles that he just encorporated into his playing along with all that sound manipulation stuff he did, it's a shame that shit got labelled Acid Rock or whatever cuz...y'know, this is clearly not fuckin Cheech & Chong music, this is beautiful stuff.

The ease and the sense of style that he played the guitar with was like....it was a familiar as a limb to him, watching Jimi on film is something that i do CONSTANTLY, INCESSANTLY, you would hate Jimi Hendrix if you lived with me, i would drive you mad.

The most beautiful fuckin thing i've ever seen is Jimi at Monterey..."he's unheard of in America but he won't be after this, Ladies and Gentleman, The Jimi Hendrix Expierience!" and he's standing there is that shadow and bang, from silence it's this fuckin supercharged 6.0 ltr explosion of the fuckin notes of Killing Floor, in like triple or quadruple time, like his fingers are gonna start smoking any minute.

And the guy was so humble and meek sounding "they got a little tune runnin' round called Rock Me Baby but dig we got our own little Rock Me Baby, the words are gonna be wrong but thats OK, dig this!" and it's like, ugh, you fuckin' gangster

Apparently he could be quite a cock in real life but what do i really know about all of that y'know, just read stuff, alls i can judge is the music. And what fucking wonderful music it isss, flawless, all yous going on about "average, overrated" fuck offfffffffffffffffff, have you got fuckin ears or what?!?! Jimi's fuckin filler, Jimi's soft tracks piss all over any fuckin guitarist i ever heard.

But seriously, whats shit, what track is shit, someone tell me, Foxy Lady, Manic Depression, Red House, Can You See Me, with it's mental fuckin cascading drums and the passion in the lyrics and the delivery, thematically speaking it's pretty fuckin bluesy but the song is a fuckin' rock song, or Love & Confusion, is this LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE or just uh, DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DAAAHHH!!! confuuusion Coooooool as y'like.

and Fire, Jesus, turning Fire on is like getting shot out of a rocket, Jimi just fuckin lays into it, it makes my legs shake, it is impossible to sit still to that song. And Highway Chile and fuckin, God, which one of those songs is bad...or average, gimme a break Jimi is the fuckin' boy.

The second album is just fantastic too, probably my favorite actually, not a bad track on it, Castles Made of Sand, Spanish Castle Magic, If 6 was 9, or that other one, think i better wait til tommorowwww "click bang, what a hang, your daddy just shot poor me!"

Jimi gets flak for his lyrics cuz they're meandering a bit but i think they're just brilliant, they're colourful, they're meaningful, they have a purpose, Jimi can't be judged like other musicians because he was 100 million bajillion percent an artist first and foremost before any and everything else so, y'know, all this puerile little critics criterias that are used when people wanna pick at Jimi are kinda redundant because Jimi was out in the world tryna do his THAAAANGGG and it was unique and different and unlike anybody or anything else that came before or after.

And this notion that Jimi was some whacked out random note playing mentallist is betrayed by looking at the recording and the WAY he went about recording and the studiousness and the attention to detail and the take after re-take after re-take after re-take, with no regard for the monies being plunged into the shit, just so's Jimi could nail the sound in his head on wax, Jimi knew EXACTLY what the fuck he was doing.

And Electric Ladyland i refuse to even praise because if you don't get it with that album then there's something fuckin wrong with you, maybe you ain't meant to listen to fuckin good music, maybe you're the other side of the seesaw, after all, someone has to make up the number for the dross like fuckin....Iron Maiden and Black Sabbath and all those wanky fuckin soft lad bands, cuz you need the shite to make the brilliant that little extra bit specialer.

One of your best posts ever on this forum.

Music isn't about the most clever lyric. Which guitar player can shred the fastest. Who has the most integrity or who is the most "rock n roll badass" and all that stuff.

Some music/musicians take you on a journey. An experience.

I'm a writer and I listen to a lot of Hendrix when I'm writing.

[Apollo]

He's a talented guitar player but INCREDIBLY overrated.

I listen to albums, in full, almost 70% or so the time I listen to music. I've never finished one of his. Maybe at the time it was different but now a lot of it plods along and no album by him even touches anything by all those regarded around him at the time.

He's overrated by people that don't even truthfully love him themselves.

Party situation:

Me: Hendrix has some great songs, but he's never released a great album

Other Guy: What do you mean? Fucking purple haze, all along the watchtower, castles made of sand!

He's the kind of artist I'll say is okay and someone else will say they love but I could name more of his songs than they could. Sort of like STP in that regard.

Just becasue you don't like all the music on his albums does not mean they weren't great mate...Like any talented musician who died before his/ her time the myth is always greater than reality but that does not diminish the man's talent or influence on the music of his time.................see Buddy Holly Jim Morrison, Janis Joplin...all were "overrated" to some extent by their early death.........

I totally agree with that. He was great. He just made albums that had quite a bit of crap on them surrounding quite awesome stuff. That's all. People go on like he's perfect but he's far far from it IMO.

True - good point. BUT sometimes that is the beauty of music. A lot of people don't get this, but sometimes the "quite a bit of crap" type music from an artist is what makes them so great.

It's like the imperfection on a woman that actually makes her more beautiful. Like the mole on Marilyn Monroe's face.

That is one of the problem with band's like Nickelback. I loved the first song I heard from them, so I wasn't an automatic hater like most people are. Breathe - great song. After hearing that song I thought they had the potential to be a pretty strong rock band. But go listen to their last couple of albums. The "filler" songs are not even "bad" songs per se, they are just the same formulatic, heartless/souless song that just ended up not being catchy enough to be a hit.

Hendrix's bad songs are like Marilyn's mole.

Nickelback's bad songs are like a girl putting too much make-up on.

One is cute, one is annoying.

Maybe I'm different than most people about music. But I love the bad songs of some artists.