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I don't want to deny Bob Ezrin's greatness. He's one of the greatest producers ever and even when he was called as an external consultant he's been able to accomplish some great work (see his contribution to NIN's The Fragile, which is my #2 all time fav album).

Reznor had recorded a huge batch of music for that record but he found himself stuck at some point, he didn't really know what to do with all that stuff. Ezrin was called in to help. He listened to all the material and helped Trent to put together a final tracklist and turn all those songs into an epic double album with the perfect flow.

I'm pretty sure that's the reason why GNR camp called him in 2000. Axl had recorded all this diverse stuff and they wanted Ezrin to do the same thing he did with Trent. Unfortunately, Ezrin was very wrong on this one. I guess he didn't see Axl as a musician that could evolve and try different paths. Or maybe the record label just instructed him to push for more "classic style" material, I guess we'll never know.

After listening to the leaks from the locker, it's clear that there was enough stuff toput together an epic double album. I don't think casual fans would have embraced it back then (Ezrin was probably right about this), yet it would have been an amazing work.

7 minutes ago, lukepowell1988 said:

How different is this version of HS?

 

 

Just better audio quality.

Anyway, I was very surprised to find out Oklahoma is a rocker. Who would have thought that? And a really great rocker, actually. I can totally see this being rerecorded with Slash.

My other favorite from the new batch is Dummy. That is pretty epic.

I would leave the tracklist as is (including scraped, which I'm not really fond of), just replacing Catcher (and maybe The Blues and Riad) with the leaked version.

Then I would put together a second cd with Hardschool, Atlas, Perhaps, State Of Grace etc etc

On 23/9/2019 at 12:59 AM, rebeldhipi said:

Would have been great if Tommy would done these at least once in a while in 2009-2014 instead of My Generation/Sonic Reducer/ Holiday In The Sun

Actually Going Down was on the alt picks on a setlist (in 2013 I think), so they considered playing it at some point.

This is gold, thank you so much for the great work!

2 hours ago, doakes said:

Hahh!! Ok, I was ready to mark out.

On that note though, are we to assume this was leaked by the wannabe wrestler who shall remain nameless?

 

The opposite thing. I think this was leaked by people who wants the wrestler to get mad about it.

8 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

One of the interviewers then mentioned a title (it wasn't very audible, but didn't sound like "Soulmonster" from what I remember) and Dominguez said "Yes, that's it."

Then I have absolutely no clue. The only Elvis cover we know is Heartbreak Hotel from the early days and they were obviously not talking about that

From that Dave Dominguez interview from a while ago:

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“He had a version of the Elvis Presley song that he did all himself- guitar and everything. It was a ballad. Yeah, it was an industrial, Nine Inch Nails style he did all himself.

So he took me into the Pro Tools room and was like, ‘Hey Dave, check this out.’ And played me a bunch of stuff.”

Note that he doesn't explicitly talk about an Elvis cover, so the reference could be to Me & My Elvis.

The instrumental we have is certainly not so industrial, but that piano part has definitely a NIN feel (reminds me of the piano bit in March Of The Pigs, as I said elsewhere).

Also, it's clear that the instrumental we have is NOT something where Axl played all by himself, but maybe this song developed from an all-Axl demo.

I know, I'm stretching it a little, but still...

Paul Tobias, hands down. "Can you please tell me EVERYTHING about 1994-2002 sharing as many details as possible? I have time".

If we're talking just about current members, I might want to try asking Axl that same question.

I fixed the big glitch in Inside Out and I like how it sounds, that's really my cup of tea.

That said, I can see why they didn't do much with it as it's definitely "unusual" (even when going "electronica", they seemed to prefer a more industrial/prodigy-like approach, while this is more funky and laid back).

3 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said:

I think just Quick Song and Nothing.

How do you know? 🤔

Holy fuck. This is the best instrumental so far. We totally need finished versions of this stuff. This is already mindblowing as is... The piano riff reminds me of the little piano break in NIN's March Of The Pigs.

Great song.

3 minutes ago, 2020_Intensions said:

https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1YqxodPjnlXKv

Is this really Corey Feldman streaming?? 

2 minutes ago, Gem Archer said:

i'm pretty sure they have a recorded version of wichita

I would be totally happy to get it in a new EP or album.

I swear I dig Wichita and The Seeker, lol.

But give me Hardschool please.

Holy fuck, the first page of this thread says they tried hard school in the sound check. Is that true? (also seen the setlist pic)

10 minutes ago, THELINESMAN said:

I thought same thing. And I suspect Hard School on the Alt list may be the band trolling us too, like Perfect Crime last year. 

Really? Is there a setlist pic with hardschool in the alt list?

5 minutes ago, AliceJ said:

I love the main part of Inside Out. Wish we'd get a version without the glitches. Not a big fan of the solo part.

Exactly what I think. Fingers crossed for a new version. Worst case, we can copy good parts from other points of the song and paste them where the glitches are. 

4 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said:

Two different working titles for the same song, most likely.

The demo from last week has a 4:12 length. Weirdly enough, the only song matching that length on the cds tracklists is Oklahoma. Also, there is Mustache at 4:10

This 3 Dollar Pyramid is different than the version that leaked a few weeks ago. How is that? I mean, I think it was listed just once on the cds.

And yes, unfortunately Inside Out is glitchy for me too

13 hours ago, Sydney Fan said:

Do you still have that school stuff?. I was never aware of that sort of merch.

Absolutely, I kept all of that. Wanna see some pics?

2 minutes ago, jamillos said:

Tbh I don’t understand why the rest of the songs containing vocals doesn’t get leaked too, regardless of any fear of "legal consequences" – I mean, you can always upload it somewhere (torrents?) and then send the link to forums etc., going "look what I’ve found", can’t you? How could anyone be proved to have leaked it? Especially if you use some public computer...

I don't thinknit's about legal consequences.  More about the songs losing value among the hoarding/trading circles once they are out.

We were "lucky" because these tracks fell into a lot of hands to begin with, that's why we had a lot of leaks lately. Had they stayed in the hands of few, we wouldn't have got them.

Just now, ZODIAC said:

I'm also wondering, why Hard School is not listed as "Jackie chan"... In the chats, axl was talking about the left Songs very openly... I don't think, that he made a joke... 

Most likely he was joking about that one. He might have changed the working title after 2000, but a joke sounds more likely. "Hardschool" is on the lyrics of the songs after all, it makes more sense.

I was a little kid all hyped about the upcoming T2 movie, had no idea who GNR were. Then I saw the YCBM video on tv and I was absolutely interested because it was tied in with the movie. I loved the song and it kickstarted my interest in heavier music eventually. A few months later, early '92, I taped both UYI albums from a cousin who happened to have the cds. Over the next couple of years GNR became the most famous international rock band here in Italy. Metallica and Nirvana were obviously huge too, but not on a GNR level. I mean, in 1993 a line of GNR school supplies was launched here: school bags, copy books, diaries, folders... I still have most of those. Also, there was a tv commercial for paper towels starring this teenager wearing a GNR t-shirt. That says a lot about how big they were here in the UYI era. 1993 was definitely their peak of popularity in Italy.

100% with you on that.

Then again, despite the great songs, I'm not sure the album would have done well saleswise had it been released back then.

Most old fans would have not embraced the change and younger music fans were too busy with modern bands definitely more hip to give a chance to a rocker from a past generation trying to reinvent himself with a bunch of talented and freaky looking musicians.

2008 was a much better period in a way, because a wave of nostalgia was already riding among the music listeners. At that point, they were in the same league with Metallica and AC/DC, whose then-new albums were released around the same time.

Just speculating, of course.

Thank you! I remember a couple of interviews with Brian talking about those sessions,but I don't think I ever read this one you're quoting, very cool piece of additional info.