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32 minutes ago, Stay.Of.Execution said:

Some people are just degenerated and have no values and morals 

This is true, but it's not always what it seems. Regardless of Melissa's actual status at the moment, going online and creating a get-well thread on a forum that Melissa will never see... that necessitates it's own psychological investigation. What's the point? What's the motivation? Because even if it's well-meaning, it's still bizarre behavior. 

This is why I don't get bent out of shape about things. The internet is just... it's its own universe with its own rules. Trying to apply real-world social rules to it is just asking for trouble. At the very least, it's an act of self-harm haha.

13 hours ago, rocknroll41 said:

I actually like Melissa in the band. Hope she gets well soon!

Pfft. She can't hold a candle to Tracy, let alone Roberta.

Always thought The Blues would be a hit. Sad that it wasn't.

20 hours ago, allwaystired said:

$100 for 5 mins speaking to him online?! 

I'd probably prefer to be actually mugged. 

If I were famous, I'd do stuff like this for free.

29 minutes ago, meadsoap said:

It's really not the same thing. Doing a commercial one time is a choice, and he was in dire financial straights at the time. But seeing as he never did it before or again, can you really say he enjoyed it or was happy to do it? 

Doing it regularly like Slash does is a lifestyle and speaks to his core values a lot more. I generally think Slash is a cool guy, but his choice to do a bunch of commercial for actively damaging companies like Mastercard and Capital One is something that never say right with me. And he doesn't even need the money because he's already making it hand over fist from touring. It's a rich man helping to exploit the lower class with a product that he'll never have to use, just because he wants more money to hoard away. Or maybe he's so out of touch that predatory lending practices never even register. Either way, it's not great.

It's all sad to me. Once, twice, a billion times. Doesn't matter. As I've said, I got into GNR as a kid because they seemed genuine. At least as far as artists go, anyway. So to see them, and Metallica, and a lot of the other guys of that era now hawking beer and credit cards and jamming with Hannah Montana/Carrie Underwood... it's just so off-putting.

1 hour ago, meadsoap said:

A single beer commercial nearly 15 years ago as the only commercial he's ever done.

vs

a commercial promoting predatory lending and banks. Which he has done multiple times. And tons of other soulless commercials for decades. 

 

Yes, these are surely the same thing.

They're the same thing. Exactly the same thing. A large conglomerate comes to you, offers pile of money to promote their shit, you sign on the dotted line and then immediately promote their shit. In the old days, back when (some) artists cared about not being corporate whores, they'd call it selling out. Now, it's just the cost of doing business, and everyone's doing it. But it doesn't change anything. It's still just as unseemly as it's always been.

I just wish that most of the anti-establishment people from my youth had stayed that way. Instead, I have to watch most of them become something that their younger selves would have disavowed. Hell, if Axl knew that he'd be on Budweiser commercials later in life, he'd have probably found a tall bridge and jumped. That's how much against it he use to be.  

3 hours ago, DoMw94 said:

That ship sailed decades ago. I'm talking anout the present day

Present day, you say?

1 hour ago, DoMw94 said:

What else is there?!

Integrity, legacy, artistic credibility etc. Personally, if it were me, I'd have pulled an Izzy. GNR was never going to be what it was, no matter what. So why go back? You've got all the money in the world. Go make something befitting of your age/current life. Or, perhaps retire and find something else to do. But going up there as a grandparent, playing music that was written by a bunch of angry, drug addicted street punks in their mid-to-late twenties... no. Not my cup of tea.

But hey, if it's theirs, so be it.

3 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

To put things a little bit into perspective regarding playing stadiums, as big as GN'R were during the UYI era, they were not a stadium band in the US. They were playing stadiums in Europe and South America, but were playing arenas in the US. The only stadium shows they played then in the US were the ones with Metallica. In this regard, the NITL band has been a biggest touring act than the UYI band.

So it wouldn't be a big deal if they went back to playing arenas in the US - few bands are able to fill stadiums there anyway, especially rock bands - and I think they still would be able to play stadiums in the other parts of the world.

If they stop touring at one point, it won't be because they won't be able to sell stadiums or because of someone quitting. The only reason for that to happen would be Axl's voice.

I just checked the '92 dates for the US, and they certainly played some stadiums on that leg.

2 hours ago, DoMw94 said:

The band is the most stable it's ever been, the current lineup is the longest-serving group (not speaking of individuals) the band has ever had, and it's making practically infinite amounts of money, and yet out of nowhere someone's going to leave and break the current lineup? 😂

There have been some truly ridiculous takes on this forum in recent years, but that tops the lot. Sorry, but that has to be the single dumbest theory I've ever read about this band 😂

 

You're assuming that stability, longevity and financial viability are all that matters.

9 hours ago, colonizedmind said:

I'm gonna make a prediction that some folk will think is mad. These dates will be the last ever in USA with this complete band intact....

The last time the "complete" band was intact was 1990.

On 10/1/2023 at 11:32 AM, jettesnel said:

As Always, they do it the right way

 

Could have gone my whole life... my whole... entire... life...

52 minutes ago, MaskingApathy said:

 

Some of you just don't know how to read...

I'm a novelist. I know how to read.

I just didn't (and still don't) know what the fuck a "solo spot" meant, so I did the next best thing haha.

Probably just act like a real band and keep rolling. There should have been a new album out by 1993, 95, 97 etc. At this point, GNR should have become the Stones 2.0.

1 hour ago, ©GnrPersia said:

An 'uber casual' fan won't bother with a vinyl to discover a popular band like GNR. He'll check them out on Youtube. This is not the 70s.

So I believe the target for this rather pointless release is the die hard fans who are collectors as well.

If it only comes out on vinyl, sure. But I wasn't talking about that. I was talking about Apple Music and Spotify etc. If it comes out via the normal streaming channels, that's (new casual fans) pretty much the only people it will appeal to.

I own all their records, even the banned Lies album with the fully-nude model. What would I gain from buying this? Must be for the uber casual fan who's just discovering the band.

This is a difficult choice. Matt can do it all, but Steven has just a cool swing to his playing. If I went with Steven, I'd lose a lot skill, but I'd gain feel. With Matt, the reverse.

Eh, fuck it. I vote Steven.

On 9/6/2023 at 2:41 PM, AlterL said:

Nahh he does, he might play them out of respect for Axl or to keep the peace within the band, but his solos on Chinese material are usually quite the downgrade on most cases.

I don't think they're a downgrade. I just think they're in a different style that you don't like. It's neither here, nor there.

I personally prefer the original solos.

8 minutes ago, Slugworth said:

Give him something worthy of an epic solo and maybe he'll deliver one.

 

Absurd, Hard School, and Perhaps aren't begging for epic solos to be pasted in. They're begging to be run of the mill deep cuts on an album, or B sides.

Well, if you believe Axl, Back and Forth Again was a rejected B-cut, and Slash absolutely dominated on that one.

It should not be reworked, it's awesome as it is. Maybe remastered, but that's it.

Man... that first sentence really bugs me. If I had written it, I'd have changed it from, with nearly four decades of career, Guns N ’ Roses has positioned itself as one of the largest rock bands in history to With a career spanning nearly four decades, Guns N Roses have positioned themselves as one of the biggest rock bands of all time.

Not with me, no. Well, maybe I'd check out a Youtube video. But going to a show? No thanks.

I would, however, feel excited to see what having Izzy back in the band could do for new songs, since the current GNR doesn't want to release anything original.

Hustler. The Walmart to Playboy's Macy's. As a boy, whenever I saw one of them (which was rare), I knew I was in for some serious skin lol