Blusky Grenfield

The truth is out there!

DJ is an idiot.

It might not be wise taking any baggage to Twiter, but for fucks sake Ron just lost his father and from what I understand he just has to cancel yet another solo project (?) because the management decided to book, no pardon me, telling a selected circle of a few choosen fans to spread the word about plans of booking some shows somtime next year, maybe.

Next thing he knows he isn't even granted communication with his boss and band leader but this untalented manipulative compliance protege bitch with makeup is.

Sorry guys, I'd be pissed too.

Ron should just call Rolling Stone Magazine and tell them he quit the band because he couldn't reach Axl. From the coverage that story gets, he'd have new top job in no time. I don't think that would be the case with DJ.

Seriously just fire DJ, it was total downhill ever since he joined the band.

Don't get your hopes up, it's just a bunch of old demos someone found on a lost iphone. Absolutely nothing to write home about. Whoever has quality stuff is either a) an insecure little pussy of an artist, b) contractually bound or c) too much of a class act to spill the beans. Just be patient. GN'R music isn't culturally or artistically relevant anymore anyway as it's being played for tourists and weddings almost exclusively. 20 years from now the fans might hear the music, if they're not too busy changing the diapers of their grandparents or even their own. So it won't make much of a difference. Check out bands that are happening and active, so many great artists out there who make actual art. Like a wise man from Sweden once said 'you wasting valueable lifetime'. Seriously, just get yourself 'Look Up There' from Buckethead, it's better than anything Guns will ever come up with.

Axl is a pretty good lyricist so tell me what song do you relate to the most?

If there will ever be new music from him, would it take more introvert and poetic stuff or more in your face straight foward lyrics to get through to you with whatever he wants to get across?

Axl getting out of the bubble, accepting change and failure, adopting spontanity and improvisation, challenging the listener, taking artistic risks instead of trying to adapt to the fucked up industry and his for the most part braindead audiences.

In like, if a new song or a different arrangement doesn't go down too well the first show, play it again and again and in that bringing it to some actual life, instead of hesitating and trying to make it "perfect" and in that ruining it with making it all too artificiality. Allow for mistakes, allow for fuck ups and in that grow from them.

Instead of the ever same routine of Junge-Easy-Brownstone open a set with the song that reflects his actual mood that day and see how people react and how it all develops from there. Bring back a real CONCERT instead of a SHOW.

Maybe re-work the arrangements of some old songs a bit, instead of slaverishly playing every song note by note every night, improvising, jamming not to Pink Floyd but to a GN'R tune!!!

In short, being an ARTIST again.

I just listened to an old Doors bootleg from 1970 and seriously, even on a bad day those four stoned and drunken guys were PISSING all over today's all so professional superacts. Not because they were better (they were but that's not the point), but because it was REAL. I wish Jim was around, he would have a beer with Axl and maybe provide some advice. Or maybe he'd just tell him to fuck it all and go to Paris.

Faith goes a long way. I wish them all the best. If I get something out of whatever comes from that, that's a bonus.

A new album would have my respect, even if I won't like it, I would respect the fact that they create actual music together instead of just playing covers all night.

Since there will probably be another tour next year, what do you expect and want the band to do?

What songs would you like to hear?

How do you feel about cover songs in the set? Keep them or drop them for more original GN'R tunes?

Would you rather see an even bigger show (pyro, lights, flying pianos, dancers)?

Or maybe a stripped down back-to-the-roots type of thing where the music and interaction between the musicians is the focus?

Do you plan to attend any shows in person, if so where would you want them to play a concert (country, city, venue)?

MSL...he presented valid proof that i was wrong, and i truly believe his theory is correct.

Enlighten us, please. What theory? How would it let see one things in a different way? Is there actual proof or just a theory?

So that's what the hoarders have been sitting on all the time? Silkworms and OMG? These songs are almost 15 (!!!!!!!!!!!) years old!!!!! There is no new music, the current leaks most certainly prove it. That's all there is to leak and tease the fans with, 15 year old demos and remixes. Pathetic! I'm sorry I would love to hear new music but these remixes and leftovers from 15 year old works don't get me excited at all? How about you? Are you excited about hearing Silkwoms on a supposed upcoming tour? LOL!!!!

Best outro = Prostitute

Best coda = Catcher In The Rye, Locomotive

1. DJ Ashba

official: the guitarist to replace Robin Finck

reality: the actor to play Slash

2. Buckethead leaving

official: Buckethead is crazy

reality: the band is so fucked up they freaked out a guy who wears a KFC bucket and hockey mask on stage and records his music in a chicken coop

3. Rock In Rio 2011

official: the rain

reality: take the paycheck and run, no rehearsals or warmups whatsoever

4. Dublin 2010

official: promoter sucked, some fans were drunk

reality: band pissed off their own fans so hard they threw bottles of actual piss on stage

5. Bridge School

official: strep throat

reality: no rehearsals or warmups

2001 Rock In Rio and 2002 MTV VMA's - they never had more momentum and mass media attention

2006 Tour - amazing performances and big festivals in Europe

2010-12 "Vegas & Weddings" Tour - artistic suicide, but undisputable commercial success

My personal real life impressions:

2006:

60% hardcore fans, 40% casual fans

axl and band in top form, on the edge, real, alive, magical atmosphere

attendance: 20.000

2010:

90% casual fans, 10% actual fans

axl and band mailing it in, boring and predictable, lifeless atmosphere, like watching a DVD

attendance: 8.000

2012:

i didn't even bother, thanks to rio 2011 and the neil young show mostly, i decided to rather go and see Soundgarden

Biggest putoff for me is not the setlist, it's DJ Ashba and Axl's half assing of things.

Just because a stupid moron can't read more than one proper sentence per year doesn't mean the writer is a nutjob. In my opinion, both Axl's and Lauryn's language is precise and sophisticated, a rare treat these days. They could give their fans the "hey how you're doing buy my product" phrases but instead the go for some actual ommunication - only to get shit after shit for it in return. Fuck that. Get off your high horse everyone and appreciate the gift of expression through language culture has provided you with. If you got no use for that, fair enough. But stop bashing people just because their thoughts and choice of words are too complex to fit in a braindead world where the major form of communication is an empty one liner send from a fucking cell phone.

1 You Could Be Mine

2 Don't Cry (Alt. Lyrics)

3 Locomotive

4 14 Years

5 November Rain

6 Civil War

7 Breakdown

8 Estranged

9 Dead Horse

10 Coma

Nothing bizarre for me there, Ezrin produced PINK FLOYD and many other great artists and albums, if this guy tells you 'you have 2-3 songs' maybe you should listen.

Besides, 2-3 songs sounds about right to me. I'd add 2 or 3 more songs that could have been marketable within a movie, but not on the radio. The album is a commercial trainwreck wankfest, it sounds like Radiohead on prosac and roids. From 1999 to 2002 that shit would have ruled the world, in 2008 it was just way too late for that vibe.

On the other hand, I feel the released album is a bad compromise and not the version he had in mind, hence the lame booklet, the no-promotion and his change of attitude towards music.

I wish for the band they could just leave all the bullshit behind and start fresh with no baggage but I don't see that happening any time soon.

Anyone familar with MIDI keyboards? How do you get the piano sound from Estranged? I think I hear a slight delay and maybe reverb and some sort of grand piano type of instrument, but so far I haven't found a plugin that sounds even remotely close. Any ideas/experiences anyone?

This is not a jam or a song, it's a promotional video for a pedal maker, hence the tasty playing and tone - it's catetring to guitarists who appreciate TONE and it wants to sell pedals to the one target market left for actual tone and real music: musicians.

It's beyond sad that videos like these today are about the only way to hear Richard (and many other talented muscians) play like that. On the records and shows it all has to be 'in your face' and supercool for the attention deficit audience. Truth is, 99% of the audiences would go get a beer or take a piss if he'd play that during a show. And that's sad.

It's done because most people listen to music on crappy iPhones and other MP3 devices.

It's not an artistic choice, it's all about the devaluation of art.

CD isn't brickwalled but you can only watch 'One Flew Over The Cockoo's Nest' so many times.

So there's some unheard stuff out there, alternate versions of Better and a song with Tommy Stinson on vocals, right?

Am I the only one who doesn't give a fuck about these?

I would LOVE to hear new music, but it takes a little more than those outtakes to get me excited or hang in there until the next greatest hits tour.

C'mon guys, give us at least one good song.

Guns before CD incl. the CD lineup = artistic, controversal, entertaining, mysterious, intresting

Guns after CD = corporate, predictable, boring

They lost me a bit with DJ and then completely with those lame ass concerts. They used to be one of the best live bands in the world, going to a Gn'R show was something special, something you would tell your kids about when you're getting older. Today I'm ashamed to bring my friends because of the emberassing corporate 80's snortfest they put on. He could have been late and take 20 years to make a record or whatever I loved him because it was real, but when he gave into the corporate greatest hits audience and gave up on art, his vision and himself, yeah, basically, right then an there he lost me. I stick around hoping to find some leaks but I don't expect anything from this band anymore. I'm glad I got to see them before the album was out.

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Generally speaking, we have no information on tours, albums, or DVDs. When things get confirmed we'll let you know. Thanks for your patience.

How unprofessional is this tweet?

First of all, by saying 'generally speaking' they automatically contrast their subsequenent claim that they don't have any information. What they are really saying is they have the information but aren't prepared to share such information with the community (because they have adopted a frustrating policy of only telling us things a day before they happen).

Secondly, how can a label signed band like GNR not have anything to say with regards records, DVDs and touring? At the very least they could say we're doing Chinese Democracy II or a record featuring the new line-up. Furthermore, they're flat out bluffing on the DVD/touring subject. They've been touring on/off for the best part of five years, am I suppose to believe they aren't currently knee deep in arranging further money making tours? They are currently consumed by negotiating with South American promoters... surely they could at least express their aspirations for the outcome of those negotiations? Finally, 'Appetite for Democracy', a simple simple thing, scheduled to be in our hands weeks ago as a 'summer release'. Fernando said a few days ago they were working on getting it out. So where is it? We don't know anything about our own DVD release.

If you don't know anything about anything, how could things ever get confirmed? If they at this point don't exist at a talking level, how is a release possible? Why is GNR content to just let us hope as oppose to telling us they want to do A. B. and C. for us as other bands would? No, they'd rather arrange GNRmania hits South America part XVI.

To conclude, thanks for our patience? It's unsurprising that the braindead person running GNR social media has dropped yet another GNR related cliche, but we are well beyond patience at this stage. It's actually a really embittered sense of frustration that GNR management need to try and appease quickly.

You read and think more than this one liner is worth reading and thinking into. They don't "have a label", they have publishing deals. It's Black Frog /Team Brazil plus whoever has the nerve and budget to cope with the risk that GN'R is these days. Be it Geffen, Interscope, Universal, concert promoters. There is no "label" backing the band in a concentrated act of support, concept, development or promotion. Material for a DVD that was intented for a theatrical release was recorded but not backed by any label because it's so utterly depressing and horrible that "the label" (or whoever was approached to actually put this out) won't even recoup half the costs of that ride. That's where management fails, getting a good camera and sound technician, getting actual promoters, making actual deals, making ends meet. There is no label, there is no management and there is barely a band and surely no new material. There is no vault. Nothing. It's all just a bunch of elderly people trying to get their own asses to the wall on their way to retirement.

1994 - 1998 end of classic GN'R, dealing with personal stuff, family stuff, ex band members, lawers and all that while trying to put a new band and new music together

1998 - 2008 putting a band and album together, despite of personal stuff, family stuff, business stuff that went on in everyones lives, while at the same time trying to make ends meet with the label, producers, managers, band members, lineup changes and dissapointed fans and touring to raise founds to keep the boat from sinkin

2008 - the album eventually does come out, obvisously not the way he wanted, frustraton grows, letting go has two sides, letting go unfinished business you put ten years of your life into just sucks

2009 - 2013 touring, touring, touring - lots of concerts, travelling, money stuff to take care of

Yet so many people round here blame Beta for no new music? Don't get me wrong, I'm as unhappy about no new music and calling in half assed pyro greatest hits shows as the next guy, but if I was in Axl's shoes, I would have called it a day a long fucking time ago. I mean where in all that bullshit does one find the time and nerve and energy to let the muse in, sit down and transform his thoughts and emotions into actual new music? I have no idea about the music industry, but from what I see, it must be a pain in the ass to be an actual artist these days.

Axl obviously does have at least some passion and fire left inside, but in recent years it looks like the exhaustion and frustration just got the better of him and it seems he tours for money, ego and lifestyle only. Looks like he is running for the sake of running, cateting to gh audience, proving entertainment more than being an artist. He made his friends and family manage the band, perhaps because of what he experienced with 'professional' managers. He sticks to hired guns, perhaps because of what he experienced with 'real' musicians. To me it looks he is just sick of the game but still wants to find a way to make music and connect. But there is no golden way, it's just compromise after compromise. And that sucks, for everyone. The fans would always want more, the industry would always want more and something else than he wants. And he will probably never put out the music he really want to put out the way he wants it out.

I don't really know how put this, what I'm trying to say is where do we go from here? And do we really have to go anywhere at all?

Better: They got their shit together and don't fall off the stage during the concerts. They're also more accessable and less 'rockstar' towards their fans.

Worse: They didn't write any of the music they play, there is absolutely no artistc integrity or authencity and no spontanity. They're more actors than artists.

LMFAO!!!!

Was Axl pissed off at him?

What about Josh Freese. Did he get blacklisted?

If Axl was getting upset with everyone who worked with Slash at some point, he would have to be upset about half the entire fucking music industry.

If anything, he's probably worried about Slash talking shit about him to people he is working / hanging with today. Slash knows a lot about Axl and that makes him vulnerable to people who don't even mean him any harm but could think bad of him based on what Slash tells them about him. And who could blame him? I wouldn't want my ex to hang with my current better half either. It's not paranoid, it's common sense.

So are you saying axl and bach are gay lovers?

No, that's not what I'm saying. But you spend a lot of time with someone, it comes with the territory that this person also gets to know the ugly side of you and you don't want that to poison whatever connection you have build with other people later on in life by having someone from your past giving his biased take on you towards a person of your present.