Brunzopolis
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I feel ya, foghat.
Some of those pinned threads turned into like james joyce novels. Then the thread titles themselves would get changed as news would come in, and it's like "Wait, was this the thread that I got 20 pages in to?"
I know the mods are doing their best. I'm not sure how I'd handle it differently, myself.
But anyway, I've used this as an opportunity to checkout other, less popular GNR boards; and for the "just the facts, ma'am" type info, it's easier/faster to just use a music news site.
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I love Rob Zombie's Halloween
And finally......I think the Simpsons is the most overrated show in TV history. It's the lowest form of humor with the lowest common denominator of intelligence to reach and appeal to the masses. It's the equivalent of a McDonalds hamburger. I actually lose respect for anybody who finds the show funny. There have been scientific studies that show the more you enjoy the Simpsoms, the lower IQ you will have. For example - if you think the Simpsons is the funniest show on TV then there is a 96% chance your IQ rests between 78-84 points.
Did you mean to say Family Guy? God I hate that show. It's not funny in the slightest and it makes me feel weird when I watch it. Like, I don't get why everyone is so mean to each other. It feels like it's a big social experiment to desensitize people to cruelty, or something; and cowardice too, since while all these characters are doing all these awful and inhumane things to each other, no other character ever bothers to do anything about it, or even bats an eye, really.
But the Simpsons...do you really think that?! Seasons 2 to about, I dunno, season 8 or so, was one of the funniest and smartest shows on TV. Tons of great satire, tons of great characters, terrific voice acting, and it was completely unique.
Sometime around 99 or 2000 it completely changed for the worse though, and as far as I can tell has remained mostly lame for the past 16 years.
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Haven't done it in years, but one thing that always bugged me was how inconsistent my experiences on it would be. I don't know if that's due to different strains, or my tolerance levels changing or what. One weekend I'd smoke a few bowls and it'd be like everything that was even remotely pleasurable while sober, was now 10 000 times better. Then I'd try to get back to that place the next time, and all I'd want to do was sleep.
If people who do it regularly are consistently having experiences like what my best experiences on it were, then I don't understand how those people would manage to ever get anything done. It would be all I would ever want to do.
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Axl issues aside for the moment, I'm worried about drums. The older I get and the more music I listen to, the more I've come to understand how important drumming is.
Matt to me, was very consistent. A lot of the time you kinda forgot that he was even there. Which I think for some bands/songs, is actually the most important thing and the sign of a great drummer.
Steven was great too and played the shit out of AFD songs live.
Brain and Ferrer never sound 'right' to me. When I watch nugnr gigs, I keep noticing the drums, but in a negative way.
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I think I look up to and admire all performers to a certain degree. Musicians, comedians...jugglers...basically anyone that goes up on a stage and subjects themselves to judgment. Particularly when they are first starting out.
Of the GNR members, I think I probably have the most respect for Axl (I don't wanna use the phrase 'look up to'. 'Respect' is more fitting I think). Just for the endless amount of shit that gets slung at him (deserved or not). Yet he still mostly goes out there and does his thing; and from what I can gather, mostly sticks to his principles.
But you can go down the line and make note of admirable things all the other members have done as well.
Then there's just the fact that all of them, at one point, have had near godlike power to indulge every human desire possible and explore every vice, and yet they've all been able to reign things in and avoid blowing themselves up.
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Something approaching the better performances of the past 10 years.
But I'll always hold out a degree of hope that he can one day sing again like he did from 88-93. Not that he sounded exactly the same during each of those years, but to me, all those years sound "good" (though towards end of the tour in 93 things were starting to change a little). And even though there were times in 06 and 2010 where he sounded a lot better than he did at anytime post 93, he was still not in the same league as 88-93.
The whole subject is so interesting to me, but confusing and frustrating too. I wish I understood singing better, or at least that we could hear from someone that is, who has really looked at the subject in-depth.
This is the closest thing I've ever found. There's a lot of speculation in it, like the stuff about having surgery sometime post 94, pre HOB gig in 2000 - I mean that's never been confirmed, but makes a lot of sense since how else could his voice change so dramatically from the show where he played Come Together with Springsteen, until HOB and RIR 3 in 00'-01'?
Then there are those few quotes from Moby, talking about 98-99, where he said Axl would be reticent to sing, and whenever someone asked him (Axl) about it, he'd get upset. Then there are the quotes from Youth (Killing Joke/producer on CD for spell) saying that at one point Axl hadn't sung for 18 months(?!)
That is interesting. Is it confirmed he went through surgery twice? That Rocket Queen video is excellent too. He was better in 2006 though. It's remarkable what physical fitness can do for a man.
As far as I know, it's not confirmed he ever had any surgery at all. Unless the author of that Brazilian write-up I linked, knows something we don't.
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Something approaching the better performances of the past 10 years.
But I'll always hold out a degree of hope that he can one day sing again like he did from 88-93. Not that he sounded exactly the same during each of those years, but to me, all those years sound "good" (though towards end of the tour in 93 things were starting to change a little). And even though there were times in 06 and 2010 where he sounded a lot better than he did at anytime post 93, he was still not in the same league as 88-93.
The whole subject is so interesting to me, but confusing and frustrating too. I wish I understood singing better, or at least that we could hear from someone that is, who has really looked at the subject in-depth.
This is the closest thing I've ever found. There's a lot of speculation in it, like the stuff about having surgery sometime post 94, pre HOB gig in 2000 - I mean that's never been confirmed, but makes a lot of sense since how else could his voice change so dramatically from the show where he played Come Together with Springsteen, until HOB and RIR 3 in 00'-01'?
Then there are those few quotes from Moby, talking about 98-99, where he said Axl would be reticent to sing, and whenever someone asked him (Axl) about it, he'd get upset. Then there are the quotes from Youth (Killing Joke/producer on CD for spell) saying that at one point Axl hadn't sung for 18 months(?!)
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Hello,
This is just pure speculation (because this is what this board needs..lol) but I was wondering last night, and I want to see what everyone else is thinking.
1. Do you guys think they (Axl Slash Duff) have gotten together to rehearse anything at this point?
2. If not, do you think Axl and Slash have spoken in person recently, or was all this done through manager, and possibly Duff?
My opinion is that Axl and Slash have spoken on the phone and nothing else, they cleared out some of their issues, but are yet to even begin to discuss what to play.
1. Slash and Duff, yes. Axl, no.
2. I'd guess, yeah, they have.
What I'm curious about, is the extent to which Slash is aware of Axl's voice issues, and if they talked about it.
I can't see Slash at anytime prior to this reunion, watching very many Axl performances.
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02' VMA's. And specifically, the "Round 1" quote.
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I think this would be a lot easier if we knew what kicked the whole thing off. Who approached who, and what their motivations were, and all that.
My guess would be that Axl wasn't the prime instigator. And at some point in this whole deal, Axl will decide he doesn't want to go along with it anymore.
So, my prediction is they play less than five shows. A bunch will be cancelled. But the whole thing will go down fairly classy. Axl will praise his bandmates and say how great it was to mend things up with them, but that he just doesn't have the chops anymore. He'll say he's retiring from performing live. The band will be supportive.
Having missed out on the cash from a full, completed tour, the band, all on good terms, will give us a bunch of shit from The Vault. It will be great times in GNR land and on the forums, mostly. Axl will do some press.
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There was that interesting piece a few years ago, I think in Rolling Stone, on Manson. They interviewed him in prison. The writer did a good job conveying that "something" that Manson reportedly has. Appeal, charm, magnetism, whatever.
Speaking of magnetism, supposedly that whole area around the old Tate house (the original house is gone now) is listed as a geomagnetic anomaly by the U.S. Geological Survey. Some people think there's a connection between things we call 'paranormal', and these little somewhat "magnetically fucked up" zones. Which might somewhat explain some of the unusual things that might have happened at the old house and the new house that's there. Not necessarily the murders (though it's not hard to see a connection), but 'hauntings' there, and things like that.
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To me, DM ranks somewhere in the middle of the band's catalog. I like it more than than MOP, Kill' em All, Re-Load, and St. Anger; about the same as the Black album and Justice, but not nearly as good as Load or RTL.
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It's kind of bad there's this thing in our society of directing scorn on women who do "whorish" things (her RQ thing). But then again, sometimes women who do whorish things, do other not very admirable things, like act like they're owed something when they probably aren't.
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Jungle or YCBM.
The person, upon listening, would probably not guess that the same band would release songs like NR, Estranged, Patience, or even SCOM, but I don't think that's important if the goal is just to "hook them in". Anyone who even remotely likes rock n' roll, would dig those songs. Particularly the openings of each. Maybe they wouldn't like Axl's voice, or maybe they'd find the lyrics or attitude objectionable, but they couldn't resist those openings.
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I've wondered this for a while, but was hesitant to start a thread:
Newer "band" pinball machines, like the AC/DC or Metallica ones, have music that plays that is essentially the album tracks.
The GNR machine though, as far as I can tell from watching stuff online, does not. The songs sound horrible. I'm assuming this is because the technology back then didn't allow for CD tracks to be built into a pinball machine?
Has anyone ever tried to "upgrade" a GNR pin to play album tracks?
I'm in the middle of doing just that to mine. (And yeah, the original sounds and music are super low-bitrate and generally horrible.)
Late last year the PinSound sound board came out (www.pinsound.org) which lets you replace each sound (background music, sfx, voice callouts) individually.
It's a process, because you end up playing a lot of games on the machine (OK, that part I don't mind) to record what/when/why each sound gets played, then a lot of time in Audition trimming/mixing clips, but it really makes an enormous difference in the experience.
I'll see if I can post up a video of mine with the in-progress sound mix in the next couple of days. Still a lot of non-music effects to sort out but it's already so much better than stock.
That is very, very cool, Blackjacker! Would love to see a vid, if you are able to do that.
I imagine the amount of work involved would indeed, be great. So cool that you are doing this.
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Part of the reason something like this hasn't happened yet, must be, at least partly, because Axl doesn't want it to happen. Maybe it's like, not wanting to admit that he probably will never be able to perform again, like he did on that tour, when he was in his prime.
It's fun to think about/wish for though. I agree with others in that the best way to do this would be to have a sort of "best of" type release.
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I've wondered this for a while, but was hesitant to start a thread:
Newer "band" pinball machines, like the AC/DC or Metallica ones, have music that plays that is essentially the album tracks.
The GNR machine though, as far as I can tell from watching stuff online, does not. The songs sound horrible. I'm assuming this is because the technology back then didn't allow for CD tracks to be built into a pinball machine?
Has anyone ever tried to "upgrade" a GNR pin to play album tracks?
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Realpoti,
Do you have a go to source for live FNM concert vids? I'd love to get the source video of Warfield Theatre, San Francisco 1992-08-19. Heard/saw Jizzlobber and it's incredible.
ftp://ftp.bunglefever.com/pub/Faith%20No%20More/
Thanks. I should have checked there as you linked me to it before. My bad.
But, do you know a different place where to get like, the original video files? Vimeo/YT are OK, but the less re-encoding the better.
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Realpoti,
Do you have a go to source for live FNM concert vids? I'd love to get the source video of Warfield Theatre, San Francisco 1992-08-19. Heard/saw Jizzlobber and it's incredible.
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Seems unlikely to me.
Ignoring the changes in the business/marketing side for a moment, people's tastes are too divergent today. Nothing is truly a "hit", i.e. universally known by the average person.
It's like, the kind of music a person likes, is dependent on music they've heard previously. As you hear more music, your preferences change and develop.
Speaking in generalities: It used to be that most people were all mostly on the same "level"; we (mostly) all shared the same background and context. When something slightly fresh/new (but not too much so!), and decent, came along, we all liked it. But now, because we are no longer bound by financial limitations, and are free to explore with the internet, we no longer share a common musical 'backstory'. So nothing really takes hold on a mass level.
But, I still think too, that there's like this void of the truly remarkable, and if a song came along on the same level of the biggest hit songs from the 1955-1995 period, that song would be a hit. And since Axl and Slash had a hand in some of those, it's not impossible that they could do it again.
The, what I see personally, as a "void", is I think related to the divergent tastes stuff, but I don't know how, exactly.
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The intent of this thread isn't one of mean-spiritedness. I've got no axe to grind against Jarmo or his forum. The mod policy there is silly, imo, but that's irrelevant here.
What I'm interested in, is the psychology of a segment of the posters, given recent developments.
With that out of the way...
There's a certain kind of fan, more abundant on HTGTH than here. They display an allegiance that is so strong, that it can sometimes, seemingly blind them to things that others can see plainly. For example, maybe Axl's voice.
"I thought Axl's voice at the 02' VMA's was perfect."
Maybe inexplicably, it really did sound that way to them. Or maybe for some, this is just the opinion they state publicly, out of allegiance; or, out of the need to save face/maintain consistency with things they've said previously. It's an ego defense mechanism, perhaps.
It's a very understandable (and common) human behavior, and one that you maybe see most often in 'fandom'. Fans of anything. TV shows, bands, whatever.
We all know this type of behavior, or maybe even remember when we displayed it ourselves. Since we're talking about GNR fans and forums, think about a prototypical "die-hard HTGTH Axl fan". With that idea in mind, let's now say...
There's a reunion.
Slash, and a core of the old lineup are back. Axl, directly, or indirectly, bluntly, or subtly, shits on NuGNR. It becomes apparent that Axl never really cared for any of the NuGNR members - maybe even just musically. The reunited guns lineup proceed to profess their love for eachother. Maybe at one point Axl says something like: "I regret the war of words and all the negativity over the years on both sides. I'm just glad we've put all that behind us and things are back as they should be."
At this point, there aren't a lot of appealing options for a "die-hard HTGTH Axl fan". I can't think of any, really.
At one point, our nameless fan was likely as big a supporter of Slash as they are now of Axl. When the split happened, they chose Axl. Everyone that joined "Team Axl", they too supported.
An Slash/Axl reconciliation puts this fan in a major bind. They were on team Axl. Team Axl was at war with Team Slash. But now their leader and enemy are on the same team.
To maintain their own ego/integrity, this fan will, I predict, turn on Axl in the same way they once turned on Slash.
The NuGNR-minus-Axl (fuck Axl!) community/belief system is born. Maybe they even start their own forum, with threads like:
"Who else thinks Tommy and Ashba should start their own band? Who should be the singer?"
"Has Bumblefoot forgiven Axl?
"I remixed Use Your Illusion III with Brain on drums!! Let me know what you think!"
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Considering how sensitive Axl is to criticism I doubt he is saving his voice and opening himself up to criticism.
Considering how he struggled the last few tours does this really make sense?
It is counterintuitive. But then, a lot of human behavior is.
Maybe, knowing that he has a problem of being too sensitive to comments about his performing, he purposefully (though subconsciously) puts himself in a position that will draw more criticism, so he can work through it?
Or, maybe he secretly likes being criticized because it gives him a reason to lash out?
Or, maybe he's had the idea of a big "comeback" for years, the real start of "Round 2", and likes the idea of it being like a Rocky movie or something. "C'mon Rock! What are you waiting for!"
Just guessing, and don't really know what I'm talking about. But I suspect it's something like that.
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Might get bashed for saying this but I gotta say that if you listen to the clip, 4tus sounds quite a bit different than he usually does on the subject of GN'R. Usually he barely acknowledges the questions, brushes them off and quickly moves on. Outside of being dodgy on directly answering the guitarist question, the dude sounds really excited in the clip.
Absolutely.
It seems fairly evident that Fortus has been told stuff, and that he is genuinely excited.
When you're playing the politician, you don't talk like how Fortus talked in that interview.
Now obviously, plans are one thing, and plans being carried out are something else. I hope Axl (and Slash?) succeed in their plan.
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Apollo, the first 7 or 8 seasons are not at all like you describe.
But since you like Deadwood, maybe you really do feel that way - even about the early Simpsons? I found that show to require far too much 'work'. All those soliloquies of Swearengen and the way people mumbled lines and all that.