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http://www.rollingstone.com/music/premieres/hear-11-faith-no-more-rarities-from-the-real-thing-deluxe-reissue-20150601

So, "The Grade" is the only previously completely unheard song? It sounds Led Zeppelin three-y.

The vocals on the From Out of Nowhere extended version sound ever so slightly different from the original track in places. I like it.

Can anyone recommend a good source for FNM live bootlegs?

edit: ..and any specific legendary-esque shows?

ftp://ftp.bunglefever.com/pub/Faith%20No%20More/Audio/

I would recommend to you Download 2009, Optimus 2010, La Gala 2009, SWU 2011. From the old days: Phoenix Festival 1993, Student Island 1997, Rock In Rio 1991, Monsters of Rock 1995, Tokyo 1997, The Forum 1995. Those are in good quality.

At Maquinaria 2011 they played KFAD in its entirety with Trey Spruance, but there's no proshot:

Fantastic. This is perfect. Thank you so much! You saved me many hours of futzing around.

edit- holy fuck that site you linked is a goldmine.

Can anyone recommend a good source for FNM live bootlegs?

edit: ..and any specific legendary-esque shows?

Thank christ for FNM. I love this album.

The first couple of listens through, I was wishing there was more guitar. You get the sense Gould and Bottom wrote the whole thing.

I've probably listened to Sunny Side Up, Separation Anxiety and Cone of Shame about 50 times each today.

To me, Superhero is one of the weaker tracks. Don't get why it's the single.

...while Guns N’ Roses Live Radio Broadcasts, recorded at shows in New York and Chicago in 1988 and 1992, will be issued on April 27.

Cool. How did I not hear about this before?

Linked article gives the track listing. No Coma from Chicago?!

Goddamnit!

Lafon's interviews are usually really good. And this one is too, just for the amount of 'new' content that comes out. But it could have been so much better.

Everytime either one of them was about to turn the conversation into something really interesting, the other one would cut them off with some bullshit nobody cares about or is already widely known.

Like every time Goldstein was getting into stuff about the vocal coach and Axl's voice, Lafon was like: "Yeah, but getting back to the pyros in Montreal..." For fucks sake Mitch, the voice stuff is way more interesting. Just let him finish what he was saying!

God, I hate being anonymously critical on the internet but it's so frustrating! Gah!

And this:

Lafon: So explain One in a Million. Why the 'n' word, and all that.

Goldstein: Well that was Axl, largely just poking fun at himself and his attitudes when he first came to LA. We all wanted him to explain this to the public, but he was like "Fuck that. If they think I really am some racist homophobe redneck then fuck them. I'm not going to spend any effort trying to change people's minds.

Lafon: But why use the 'N' word and all that. Maybe that wasn't very smart. No?

He just told you, Lafon! Fucking christ.

Doug said in this interview that Izzy and Alan did black magic, and in the Rolling Stone interview he said Slash did black magic?

I just started listening to the this Lafon interview and had to pause it after the Izzy/Niven black magic stuff to find out more. So interesting.

This is the google translated Goldstein RS Brazil piece. I don't see anything in here about Slash and black magic though:

by Lucas Borges

March 25, 2015 at 14:40

The Brazilian public was delighted with hits in the last days of Guns N 'Roses guitarist interpreted by the legendary line-up, Slash, in six it shows with Myles Kennedy & The Conspirators the country.

Guns still exists, but totally disfigured, led the remaining vocalist Axl Rose, who opened a dispute with former comrades in the early 1990s to keep the mythical group name, culminating in the departure of Slash in 1996 . Since then, it seems unlikely that the pillars of "Paradise City", "Sweet Child O'Mine" and many other classics may one day play together.

In an interview with Rolling Stone Brazil, however, an important character in the history of the American quintet dismantling ensured that can put Axl Rose and Slash side by side again. The self-proclaimed savior is Doug Goldstein, businessman appointed by the guitarist as the pivot of the separation of Guns N 'Roses.

"... [Goldstein] been climbing the stairs strategically. It was like a predator in an ambush. While no one has been more responsible for Guns of the dissolution of the Guns own, Doug Goldstein was a catalyst. His techniques to divide and conquer were a instrument for the arrival of our end, "wrote Slash in the eponymous 2007 book, published in Brazil by Editora Ediouro.

Also according to the artist, Goldstein approached Axl Rose to replace the group's former agent, Alan Niven, and was always "permissive" with the bandleader, he could do whatever he wanted. Rose even touted by Goldstein remained until 2002, when they would be separated by a new melee.

By phone, the accused denied everything and defended. "I'd love to find Slash and clarify this because the truth is that we have been for seven years the people who took care of the band's business. I doubled the amount of commissions that were paid to them. Love Slash to death, is one of my favorite people in the whole world and for some reason it is with these ideas, "he said.

One of the rejection of the reasons he was the predecessor Niven, who would have reached the point of hiring an expert in black magic in the city of New Orleans after he was dismissed from office.

"Every day after work he went to the room, put a black hood and swore against Axl and me. I was in Hawaii, taking my life and Niven came, made ​​new friends with Slash and Duff [McKagan, original bassist Guns] and took credit everything I did. Then Slash told me that Niven tried to have sex with his girlfriend. "

Goldstein also would have unfairly taken the blame for the contract that the group's former members signed passing the name Guns N 'Roses for Axl Rose. "In that day my son was born, we were not even on the same continent, they were in Barcelona and I was in California, they confused me with the entrepreneur of the tour because they were drinking heavily at the time and do not remember."

Despite all this and a rumored idea of ​​Rose to add a third guitarist, nothing would have been more important for the separation of the musical partnership than a factor, says the agent, went unnoticed by the public: a partnership with Michael Jackson.

"In 1991, we were on the road, Slash came to my office and said, 'I'm leaving tomorrow to play with Michael Jackson in a tribute show'. I told him not to do it because Axl was molested by her father when he was two years and believed the charges against Michael Jackson. Everyone knew that Eddie Van Halen was paid $ 1 million for participating in 'Beat It'. So, I asked Slash, 'as you will get, I trade it for you?' and he said, 'I'll just get a big screen TV. "

"He was devastated. He thought that Slash would support it and would be against all the abuse. From the point of view of Axl, that was the only problem. He could ignore the drugs and alcohol (with which the guitarist had serious problems ) but could never ignore child abuse. " Slash recorded interests in several songs of the King of Pop, among them, "Black or White".

It would therefore suffice few words to join the old Guns. "Slash would have to apologize for the episode with Michael Jackson. And truly believe that by so much love the band I would be the entrepreneur would gather them together again, do not think anyone else could do it. "

Determined to refound the end of the icon of the 20th century, the businessman made a request to the report. "I am a very loving, spiritual and face hurts me that instead of asking me how I feel and ask about these things Niven created, Slash simply believe that they are true and throw me to the lions. Love Slash as a brother, he is the younger brother I never had, would do anything for him. Do yourself a favor, say that I hope very sit with him wherever he wants to tell my side of the story. "

So this is the copy Limulus just released?

http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?/topic/207824-faq-update-in-first-post-618-guns-n-roses-ritz-1988-dvdr/?p=3906318

It does lose a little something after YT re-encodes it. But I guess if you don't have the hdd space to spare...

That was very educational. You really know your shit, Stella.

Surely, Saidman, having put in all this work, considered self-publishing? Or would that be fraught with potential obstacles too?

To me, it's not really the pop music that is the problem. Pop music has always been around. Whether it's what we have today, or NSync and Backstreet Boys, or New Kids on the Block, or whatever, it's always been around and at the top of the charts. Rock just doesn't get the attention it used to, like say when the Pumpkins were big. I have to think that it will come back around and be big like it used to at some point.

Rock music will get attention and 'come back around' the instant someone actually writes and records a good rock album.

People don't give a shit about genres. They like what sounds good. In the absence of anything that sounds good (like now) people will just default to what is pushed down their throats, which is usually pop.

When his "ba-wit-i-ba" song came out, it was a like music crossed over a line. Like, "from this day forth, shitty rock music will frequently become very popular."

I had a friend who was older, who I looked up to as a sort of decider of what was cool. One day, he was playing this song, and in a moment of rare independent thought for me back then, I said "Do you actually like this?", and he was like "Well, no not really." Felt good. It was lesson in how to value my own musical judgement and tastes.

Axl really wouldn't have any legal grounds to stop the book, any more than any other book that has been written about him. Unauthorized celebrity biographies are legal and I can't think of a judge who would side with him on it.

My hypothesis: if this was supposed to come out around the time CD did (2006 - 2008ish), it might be possible that the publisher pulled or indefinitely postponed the book after CD flopped. It is also possible there was some sort of changing of the guard at HarperCollins - it happens all the time - and the new editors weren't as high on this as the old ones, so again they indefinitely shelved it. It's not a celebrity memoir and it's always possible that they felt there wasn't a market for it (false, IMHO, but book publishers don't always get things right).

But, you can sue for "defamation", can you not?

This was hard to look up without falling asleep, but J.D. Salinger, Tom Cruise, and Steve Wynn (that casino guy) have all sued over unauthorized bio's. Maybe HarperCollns, even if they thought they could win their case, didn't want to go through all the hassle.

Or maybe too, it had something to do with your second point, or a combination of both.

I like how in the past few years, whenever he is interviewed, he always seems a little pissed off. He's got stuff to say. I like that.

I'm not sure I totally understand the point he is trying to make about Axl. So in my head, I'm going to just broaden it out to being a positive comment, that has something to do with Axl being one-of-a-kind.

I haven't read James's book. Recently though, I watched all of the "Making the F****ng Videos". I can't remember which one it's in, but there's that bit where Axl and Del are talking about how the whole thing came about. It seemed like it was one of those little synchronistic things that happen from time to time, where you have some emotional response to something, could be anything: life, love, ketchup, whatever. Then five minutes later you walk around the corner and hear someone talking about the same thing, or a ketchup bottle flies out of a window and hits you in the face.

It's all very profound at the time, and it maybe even does signify that something weird or unknown just happened; but then you quickly forget about it. And later, if you look back on it, you rationalize that it was probably just a random coincidence of no significance. And if you happen to have done something at the time it happened to chronicle it, that allows it to live on - like write a song or a book about it - you look back and cringe slightly.

Her last activity was in 2013, I messaged her, but there are high chances that she is not active on FB, so well lets see if she ever replies or not

Nice. Thanks for doing that.

The books likely on hold, like Canters book was, but he probably paid her a little just to make sure it didn't appear. He probably didn't want it out before the release of CD, in case it distracted too much attention away from the album. I think we can safely say the book would have definitely received far more attention. Maybe it'll appear in a few years but I think it's unlikely after 7 years. Someone should contact her though, and see if there's a possibility of a interview on the forum.

Yeah some one should message her on FB and ask what is the status, the book seems interesting and it seems a lot of hard work has gone to write it. Even I think Axl or TB paid her to Hush Hush over the whole thing

So this doesn't turn into a...

"I didn't do it. I thought YOU were going to do it"

"I didn't do it either. I thought YOU were!"

...type of deal: I'm not on FB and have made it a goal never to be. So I'm out. There is some other contact info for her out there, but maybe FB would be best.

you know, on the other hand, pushing a book on Axl with :

I've conducted dozens and dozens of new interviews exclusively for the book, many of them with people who have never been interviewed before

is kind of a shot in the foot.

I mean, interview who? not Slash, that's for sure. So maybe... you and me? moderators? Jarmo? LAWL

My guess would be family members, for one. With grudges, perhaps.

The books likely on hold, like Canters book was, but he probably paid her a little just to make sure it didn't appear. He probably didn't want it out before the release of CD, in case it distracted too much attention away from the album. I think we can safely say the book would have definitely received far more attention. Maybe it'll appear in a few years but I think it's unlikely after 7 years. Someone should contact her though, and see if there's a possibility of a interview on the forum.

Even if she can't talk about what was going to be in the book, or even the events that led to it not being a book, it'd still be an interesting story, I bet. It looks like after it all went down, she got out of the music journalism biz completely.

You put that much work into something, then nothing comes of it. Would suck big time.

I would have assumed Axl would have put the cease and desist on the Mick Wall book if he had that power. It is strange that it was so far along, and then for it to stop so suddenly in it's tracks. I see why there's a lot of speculation that he did stop it... it would have made more sense for him to be a part of the book and ask for final say on the interviews he offered, so he could clear up some of the myths surrounding him.

I got more and more confused with each additional sentence you wrote, here.

...The book that was supposed to be released by Sorelle Saidman? that comment wasn't my finest work I'll admit, but I think we all know what the thread is about without writing Sorelle Saidman's book every ten sentences and the gist of the message is there.

In plainer / simpler english. If he (Axl) was going to block a book, Why not block Mick Walls book, it was a completely negative look at his career and personal life and the author (MW) and Axl had a very public falling out, giving the author (MW) no reason whatsoever to give a fair and balanced depiction of the man. Contribute to the Sorelle Saidman book and ask for final say on any interview that he gave before the book would be set for publishing, ensuring everything said was his own words, not misquotes etc. By doing this it clears away some of the stories that surround him (Axl) and the new gnr and he can move on with his life / career, and GnR fans don't have to speculate endlessly.

Hope that's clear enough for you, otherwise you can go and... fill in the blank

Alright, I wasn't trying to instigate anything. There was just some pronoun confusion on my end I guess. All is cool.

Back on topic:

Sure, Wall's book was on the negative side, but there wasn't anything negative in it, that was also substantive. Just rehashings of old stories that everyone knows, told in Wall's slightly nasty, skeptically toned, voice. If Axl read that book, he probably just thought: "Oh good ole' Mick. Still being a hack and a cunt after all these years."

He didn't have any "scoops" or anything. But I bet Saidman did/does.

Now this is interesting. I guess this was a synopsis at one stage or another:

Abuse, religious fanaticism, murder, litigation, violence, stalkers and overdoses. Axl Rose is the definition of rock star eccentricity. From fronting one of the greatest and most successful rock bands in musical history to his dramatic decline and current immersion in past-life regression therapy and holistic healing, Axl reveals the questionable circumstances of his birth, religious upbringing and the previously unpublished story of his father's murder. Axl goes behind the headlines to ask what - and who - drove him to outrageous, insane acts

From:

http://books.google.ca/books/about/Axl_Life_and_Times_of_Mysterious_Mr_Rose.html?id=kxqtkQEACAAJ&redir_esc=y

Sounds yellow as fuck. but a fun read.

I bet there's some real meat to some of it though. A huge publisher like Harpercollins isn't going throw out teasers like that without having the facts to back it up.

I'm thinking she probably did get the whole story about the death/murder of his dad.

The bit about the "questionable circumstances of his birth"...I wonder what that's about?

Now this is interesting. I guess this was a synopsis at one stage or another:

Abuse, religious fanaticism, murder, litigation, violence, stalkers and overdoses. Axl Rose is the definition of rock star eccentricity. From fronting one of the greatest and most successful rock bands in musical history to his dramatic decline and current immersion in past-life regression therapy and holistic healing, Axl reveals the questionable circumstances of his birth, religious upbringing and the previously unpublished story of his father's murder. Axl goes behind the headlines to ask what - and who - drove him to outrageous, insane acts

From:

http://books.google.ca/books/about/Axl_Life_and_Times_of_Mysterious_Mr_Rose.html?id=kxqtkQEACAAJ&redir_esc=y

I would have assumed Axl would have put the cease and desist on the Mick Wall book if he had that power. It is strange that it was so far along, and then for it to stop so suddenly in it's tracks. I see why there's a lot of speculation that he did stop it... it would have made more sense for him to be a part of the book and ask for final say on the interviews he offered, so he could clear up some of the myths surrounding him.

I got more and more confused with each additional sentence you wrote, here.

I guess back in 05' she got in touch with different outlets to clear up some misinformation. This is similar to the blabbermouth piece I linked earlier, but has additional info:

Saidman Speaks To Splat About New Axl Book
5 October 2005, 7:31 PM


Sorelle Saidman has spoken to Splat about her forthcoming book, "Axl : The Life and Times of Axl Rose and Guns N' Roses".
Instead of spinning the information into a huge story, I'll just give you her bulleted email, as it is much easier to read;

- The book was never scheduled for an October release, it was always scheduled for 2006. I did NOT write the blurb that appeared on Amazon.com, nor did I provide the information. (What’s in there is old news and it is not correct).

- I’ve been toying with the idea of doing a book on Axl and Guns N’ Rose since the mid-nineties when I started reporting on them weekly for the Rollingstone.com website. After RS, I went to MTV New Online for four years, and also wrote extensively for CDNow/Allstar (GNR was still my favorite topic), and I did various GNR-related interviews for those outlets.

- I worked on the Spin cover piece with Marc Spitz in 1999. My own book research was already underway, but I agreed to help in exchange for permission to use all the mag research, so the book became sort of an extension of that piece. At that time, we did over 40 interviews, and less than 5% of that material (at best) was published.

- I also worked on a VH1 special on GNR in 2002 that never aired (I believe it was a pilot for a new series that died on the vine after the company was restructured), and made the same deal with them – I retained transcripts of those interviews.

- Since that time, I’ve conducted dozens and dozens of new interviews exclusively for the book. (I believe the count is well over 150 interviews with over 120 sources).

- I’ve sorted through thousands (quite possibly tens of thousands) of pages of court documents and other records and clippings in Indiana and California. Its pretty safe to say that at least 3/4 of the material in the book hasn't been seen before by even the most ardent fans.

- I’m handing in most of the book this week (it was supposed to be in September 15, but I’ve been under the weather). I’m holding off on a few things until as late as possible to try and have it as current as possible.

- The publisher and their lawyers are going through the first draft while I continue to fact check. The book is not written chronologically, it’s in segments, I can continue making changes to certain segments, and I can add segments for the next month or two, but only if they are really compelling.

Now this is the part where you come in. Sorelle is wanting some feedback from fans as to what they would want to see in this book. You can take this to your own forums if you like, but what we need here is some good adult feedback and comments, if you can manage it.

Written by bigboss

Found it here:

http://gnfnr.dk/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=264

On a related note, what was "Splat" (Sp1at.com)? Some kind of secret "insider" club/forum? And Jeff Leeds contributed there? Or was it his site?

Axl put the ol' Cease and Desist on our friend Sorelle.

She used to post here. http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?/topic/204313-sorelle-saidman/?p=3613807

Yeah, I saw that thread, and your post there, but...were you just speculating? Or is that what actually happened? Can you share any specifics?

I mean, the first thing that comes to mind as to why it got killed was that Axl and/or lawyers for various parties put the brakes on it, but how did it go down? Like, was Axl's team threatening a lawsuit, against HarperCollins? Or against Saidman? On what specific legal grounds? Or what exactly?

We'll have to speculate.

The book had a title, a release date, cover art, and was available for pre-order on Amazon, B&N, etc., and then it never came out.

I'm sure whatever legal wrangling happened included a non-disclosure agreement.

I sent her a pm asking if she cares/wants/is willing to share anything. Looks like she hasn't been on since 09'. Maybe she has email notifications turned on though and will eventually get it.

That'd be crazy if there is an NDA involved in all this.

Axl put the ol' Cease and Desist on our friend Sorelle.

She used to post here. http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?/topic/204313-sorelle-saidman/?p=3613807

Yeah, I saw that thread, and your post there, but...were you just speculating? Or is that what actually happened? Can you share any specifics?

I mean, the first thing that comes to mind as to why it got killed was that Axl and/or lawyers for various parties put the brakes on it, but how did it go down? Like, was Axl's team threatening a lawsuit, against HarperCollins? Or against Saidman? On what specific legal grounds? Or what exactly?