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Opening act has finished 10 min ago. About 2h for GNR to start

Reckless Life soundchecked

Waiting on the line, hearing a couple of songs from outside the Arena and not recognizing any of the songs. They might be just jams but who knows. Definitely Slash and Duff soundchecking.

On 9/24/2022 at 5:29 PM, FabioRoses said:

I guess its about how close your singing voice is to your natural voice. Axls speaking voice is low af while his singing voice is medium/high. Thats why when he sings low nowadays, it sounds good. And it will always do. Because its his natural voice.

This is what I was trying to explain, thank you!

On 9/22/2022 at 8:38 PM, yumbeen said:

YEAH PLANT SOUNDED "GREAT" BUT WITH LOW KEY...

And Plant has a way healthier singing style and much closer to his talking voice. Axl has invented a singing style that is something unnatural to his vocal chords, his signature tone is distorted and it’s mixed voice. That’s why we shouldn’t not compare his condition to guys like Plant, Tyler, Coverdale, Dickinson etc. 

4 hours ago, EvH said:

Re : November Rain 2022, Steven Wilson has confirmed the below :

https://twitter.com/swremixes/status/1572349924410286081

“The new 2022 version is the same performance as the original but with newly recorded orchestration replacing the sampled sounds used on the original mix".

He mixed the new version .

 

I’m really exited to get to hear this. The samples in November Rain did not age well and has prevented me to listen to the original version lately. Fingers crossed that it’s good stuff

6 minutes ago, RichardNixon said:

Sorry if this has been covered. The albums have been remastered but not remixed. Can we expect it to sound any different, other than brickwalled? 

Same result of the AFD remaster I guess

35 minutes ago, TheSlashrose said:

Are you sure I'm reading this? Jesus, this guy recorded several songs that were illegally leaked, besides the recordings are terrible, he gets paid for it, and I really don't know how the GNR staff didn't verify this, or he did it in a way that can't be legally reached by Copyright

Just checked this guys’s “album” and it’s just super trash quality. But I must say it’s a major slap in the face of Team Brazil/Axl’s incompetence, and it’s kind of well deserved.

EDIT: since it’s on spotify since 2020, I imagine TB was unable to take it down.

1 hour ago, TheSlashrose said:

There's no Democracy in Brazil. 😅

 

 

I’d like to give you 13 likes. (Go Lula!)

Fingers crossed to get Atlas debuting in Porto Alegre next week. 

3 hours ago, diegomaceds said:

even though, I'm very excited for my third GNR concert this Thursday. I hate festivals, but this year, rock in rio is the only way for me see them. I'm from Rio de Janeiro and the crisis that is happening across the country is shit. so it's impossible to go from one state to another to follow the shows here.

Best of luck, mate! I’m seeing them in Porto Alegre and can’t wait for what I’m considering the last time I’ll see them live.  

I promissed myself  I wouldn’t check any videos / the forum once the leg started but couldn’t help, here I am with ZERO expectations regarding the show 

On 9/4/2022 at 7:45 AM, TheGeneral said:

RIR always brings out the worst in any band.

You should definitely check out a band called Iron Maiden, they’re great! 

On 1/13/2022 at 6:54 PM, gunsfanoldie said:

1. Reunion with Izzy and Steven and Matt. The tour should have always been Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff and Matt (with Steven either playing an Appetite encore every night or just coming on to play the Appetite songs during the show), and Izzy should be getting the same money as Axl, Slash and Duff. He wrote the fucking songs, and even if you're not missing him being up there, he should be there with them. Its nothing against Fortus or Melissa or Frank (well ok, I couldn't care less about Melissa and I just don't like Frank's drumming), but the reunion lineup should have always been Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff, Matt and Steven guesting, and Dizzy if Axl insists.

2. An honest to god new album. NOT of Chinese leftovers, not cover songs. Write some fucking new material, which everyone besides Axl is clearly still capable of doing and record them.

3. A comprehensive Chinese Democracy box set. It was actually revelatory, and dare I say changed my mind about the entire Chinese endevour. When you hear the 200 songs back to back to back, you actually hear what he's going for, and the journey he took throughout that time (and by that time I mean like 97-2003 when the album was basically honed). Its fascinating, it vindicates Chinese which turned out to be a release that was just "here's what we have" and a hodgepodge that ruined what Axl was going for, and its truly pitiful that it took them finally being leaked for us to hear them. 500 people probably even care about them, put them out to us, and you could actually get a wider audience like those that enjoyed the recent Beatles documentary and such. There are great box sets for albums that underwent intense journeys like Pet Sounds, and Chinese absolutely deserves it. 6 discs or so of everything you have with a large booklet outlining the process.

4. A documentary similar to the Eagles doc, helmed by me of course, interviewing past and probably future GNR members knowing this insane group of people being honest about their history, with a home release that includes like 10 hours of bonus features about the Axl wilderness years, Slash's solo years, Duff's solo years, Velvet Revolver, Gilby Clarke's solo albums, Izzy's solo material, the porn films Steven Adler has made, the multitude of whales Matt has saved from slaughter. 

5. A true Use Your Illusion box set (and a redo of the Appetite one at that) as even though Slash said it I'm either skeptical it won't come out, or that it probably will and be another complete missed opportunity.

6. Start an online archive portal for Use Your Illusion tour and video audio that we know they have all of.

 

Do those then we can come back with another list, but those are the obvious key ones that need to be addressed.

I must say you should be hired as GNR’s product manager, mate. (In a world where team brazil doesn’t exist, preferably)

5 hours ago, Sosso said:

His work ethics would have been the same, with or without the GN'R name

Agree, but I get the impression that the pressure of carrying the GNR name has taken its toll on Axl regarding how to handle a music carrer. The guy looked and acted like a completely different artist after the band broke up. It’s a shame we’ll probably never know how a solo effort would sound like (probably not getting another band effort either) 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

Saw the Reckless Life vid, a vocal coach can really do wonders. Axl's much more in control with his voice. It will only get better! Hope to see them on absolutely fire here in Porto Alegre this September!  

4 hours ago, Nintari said:

At this point, I'm just hoping we see official releases dealing with the band from 85-93. Things like all that UYI footage that's sitting in a vault some place. Maybe some unknown, official releases of songs like Crash Diet etc. that we don't know about. Things of that nature.

Because for me, the band is finished. I saw them in 2016, but it wasn't the band that I had seen as a kid, staying up late with my friends to watch Paris '92. The crowd was old and tired. The band was old and tired. Axl's voice was old and tired. It was all just so worn out... and it was a bitter pill to swallow.

But that's life. All things must pass, as George Harrison once famously put it. GNR is no different. As hard as it was to face, I've since learned to accept it and make peace with the fact that the band I loved is no more.

 

That's exactly the way I feel at this point, couldn't describe it better. The best scenario for me would be any solo effort/creative output from Axl, but then I'd be asking too much. 

Why has Axl lost his interest in being an artist and became just a live entretainer.

1 hour ago, El Guapo said:

What would you say, would it be a realistic option for Axl to do it 2016/ AxlDc style if they played shorter sets, like 1,5 hours instead of 3 with longer breaks between the shows?

Or is it just too risky to go full rasp even on a couple of songs now?

I'd say he needs the correct preparation to do so. To my ears his voice is out of shape for distortion, so doing 'full Axl/DC mode' is out of his capacities and would almost certainly stress his vocal chords. In the Reckless Life video you can see he's going for the drive in some point, and he puts so much tension into his neck that his face turns kinda red. My bet is that he's gonna improve vocal condition as the tour goes on (same old story), but to reach Axl/DC level, only with a good vocal coach beside him. (Again, I'm not a vocal specialist, just been singing professionaly and had a couple of lessons over the years).

1 minute ago, GnR Chris said:

I also think they should cater the set list these days to low register songs that are easier to sing (if they’re gonna continue to do near-three hour shows). They can still play the “hits.” But add stuff like “Bad Obsession,” “Pretty Tied Up,” “Chinese Democracy,” “Patience,” “Don’t Cry,” “Mr. Brownstone,” “You’re Crazy” (Lies version), throughout. 

I’d also go so far as to say I’d be intrigued to hear some classic “rasp” or high-clean songs done in a different style, low register. Man, it’d be so rad if they ever did a theatre tour again but unplugged. “Street of Dreams” and “Madagascar” acoustic, with Axl in a low register and the band playing the songs in different arrangements. It’s something we’ve never really gotten. Make the old new again.

All that said, I live the current set list, and I have zero complaints about the 8-10 NITL shows I’ve been to since 2016. 

Man I'd love to a unplugged from GNR, but that would require creative effort and Axl doesn't like that kind of stuff. Maybe we'll get something like that when he gets older. 

Just now, We love Axl Rose said:

I don't know if he worked with Ron Anderson after 2017/2018 ?

I believe the last time was the 2016 run

16 minutes ago, Dangom1 said:

Axl could sing BIB with rasp if he wanted to but then it would pose two things

1) Why would he risk losing his voice on 1 song, it's pretty common knowledge that he uses his clean voice to preserve it

2) People would start questioning why he doesn't use Rasp on the Guns songs 

Yes he could, but then his voice would 'crack', he went for the cleaner tone for safety as he hasn't been able to access more 'healthy' drives (the ones that sound more natural and less 'screamed' to our ears), that is generally caused by the lack of proper training before touring (can assume this because his clean tone here is nasal and similar to the beginning of most of the tours - and can relate to it as a vocalist, when my voice is untrained - or when I haven't sang in a couple of weeks, it's really hard for to access drives, the vocal chords become really stiff).

I apologize if I sound like trying to lecture you guys or anything lol, just want to contribute to the subject the best I can (also english isn't my first language)

In 2016 Axl was in GREAT shape vocally (I reference here the south america select which he did TWAT - that is great technique right there), with a lot of support and having his drives 'at hand' and was fully prepared. The good news is - he hasn't lost his voice, it has just lost conditioning. Maybe with the passing of Ron Anderson he hasn't found a new vocal coach or just doesn't care enough to find one.

Did they play SOD?

32 minutes ago, gnrjanus said:

Sod will be easy as shit  

 

He sounded good on it from 2002/2014 no worries. The clean voice suits this song

Don't think so mate, the problem on SOD isn't actually the tone, it's the incredibly high and long notes in the last section, and the use of his mid range which has always been hard for him on the verses. As a vocalist myself, this would be one of the last GN'R songs I'd pick to sing live.