Redhead74

I'm even forgiving you for having no lace

Lace is beautiful, but the good stuff is very expensive. And it's just as well, I have a behind the size of a small African nation, which wouldn't look good in white lace.

I'm gonna have trouble when my time comes, I know what I want my dress to be like and it includes a LOT of lace

Try and make friends with someone in the bridal industry or fabric stores/suppliers. Wholesale rate is half the retail. I'm not kidding here either. Wholesale here where I buy my fabrics is 15 metres minimum (I've made individual dresses with way more yardage than that ) but lace is often sold in 3-5 metre lengths. That still qualifies for wholesale because of the limited lengths.

Yay! I've made skirts but didn't want to put them in this thread, but glad you introduced them netcat. That Dior one is lush. Here's a skirt I made using a William Morris Chinese knockoff print.

And drum roll please..... the wedding dress is finished! Thanks to Redhead for her valuable sewing advice. It looks much better on me. Hope that you like it.

It's been one heck of a journey, I've made a few big mistakes, there's been blood (literally), fat moments, and I've learned the burning temperature of organza. But I've owned a sewing machine for less than five months and have made a wedding dress. And that's an achievement in itself.

Yay!!!!! It looks fantastic! And honestly the end result is much better than your original plan. That's what I love about designing clothes, the process and the changes that occur whilst you're creating. It's exciting and you don't really know where it's going to end up. Love it!

And you've already had the usual disasters that everyone who sews experiences at some point. Blood (that still happens to me every week, I usually prick my finger in fittings and end up with blood on the dress! Trichloroethylene is useful for more than making bombs ), and learning the hard way the burning temperature of any fabric is another essential, it's a mistake you make once and ONCE only!

Well done, Grace. I'm proud of you and your result.

Tom Ford, the smart marketing man (he's not just a divinely handsome human being ) negotiated to do all the suits for the last film. He knows how to make a sharp suit, that man.

Hahaha!!! Some posts were deleted here.......more funny shit, but some serious editing going on.

What can I say? Life isn't PERFECT. It rarely is. Working ANYWHERE is better than NOWHERE. And this is where Gen Y falls down. It's not your fault. You were educated to believe that you can have what you want if you just work hard enough. If you want it enough. That's crap. Some people are lucky, some aren't. Life is really very random. Why is there no prospect after 1 year? I've been working at the same company for 7 years now. Sometimes I had progression, sometimes I didn't. In fact sometimes people were deliberately blocking me from opportunities. I didn't care. Now the hard work is paying off. I'm in a strong position of power now. It took 7 years. That's pretty good IMO. What are you talking about ONE YEAR?

You have been lecturing us Europeans about Europe since the ifrst day you joined this place. You have been on holidays in France, you obviously know better than me.

Um.....WHAT?

I know you hate me TWD, but seriously you make up some funny shit, you do.

It's an endless source of amusement.

To be fair, you kinda imagined the 'hussy' bit

It was implied

Actually, it wasn't. This is what I mean about me not having testicles and how 'differently' my posts are 'interpreted'.

Yes, I was harsh, but no more so than many of the posters here are, yet you're so much more judgmental of me than anyone else (male) who has an opinion for or against you.

Seriously, didn't you have some kind of experience with the bionic vet or something? Surely that would put you in the running up front for a job?

I've heard many horror stories about people being left totally in charge weeks after starting with no support from senior staff, or conversely being a year into their job without getting to do much more than vaccinations

I'm glad I'm not a pet owner in the UK. That is unheard of and unspeakable. We don't even leave inexperienced people in charge of fitting someone's wedding dress where I work, let alone in charge of someone's pet's life. That is some seriously fucked up shit. Especially when you take into account the cost of veterinary care. I think it's a good move that you look at getting experience elsewhere.

Must be fun in your dream world

Believe me, it more than likely happens there too, whether you're aware of it or not. Not all workplaces are created equal, in every career path and country good and bad exist.

So you're presuming to tell me what it's like where I live on the other side of the world?

That is exactly what I mean about new grads thinking they know it all.

I've used several vets for more than 8 years here. My last dog had epilepsy and required frequent vet visits. NEVER have I had anyone other than a qualified and experienced vet attend to my pet. Yes it must indeed be fun in my dream world. A dream world with epilepsy. Awesome!

Again, get over yourself and stop making judgments of others.

What, but you can make a snap judgement that all UK vet practices are terrible? Not to mention that I'm some hussy little brat that wants life on a silver platter and only likes males, merely because I want to find a job that will serve as decent career development?

You're just embarrassing yourself now.

Hussy? Brat? Silver platter?

What the fuck are you talking about?

Just find a job. Any job. It can't be that bad ( even if you're just doing vaccinations). Yes, it's hard, but so is life when you're actually working. You haven't even got to that bit yet.

All coffee is the same. It is just stuff you drink to keep you awake. All these terms - Latte, Capucino, Espresso - are just stupid words for what is a very simple thing: a cup of coffee. I think people pose with coffee because they want to look like a character from Friends, with a trendy little urban lifestyle: ''look at me and my gigantic coffee. i am a cock''. Bollocks.

I do believe you have been to Italy. Did you learn NOTHING while you were there??????????

I think you'd better book another trip and let the Italians teach you a thing or two about beverages.

When I was in Italy I drank booze (Wine with meal; Italian beer - Peroni etc - at other times). Why would I want a cup of foamy caffine when I can drink booze (understand I was on holiday)? At breakfast I drank 'English breakfast tea' (which the hotel had been splendid enough about getting for the English people). It is rather funny because there was a party of yanks in the hotel and they were all drinking coffee whereas all the Brits were drinking tea.

About Italians and coffee. Am I correct in assuming that most of these absurd coffee types were invented in America. The Italians have the capucinno, yes, but 'Americano'? In essence, the modern coffee culture is, an American culture.

What the fuck is an Americano? Here in Australia we have Cafe Latte, Cappuccino, Espresso, Macchiato, Ristretto (for the very fussy), Doppio Espresso (for the hardcore caffeine addict) and Flat White (don't know what the Italian is for that, we just use English ). I also drink tea, but coffee for me is the breakfast beverage. Tea is for morning or afternoon. Wine is for lunch/evening. After dinner the Italians will drink a macchiato or espresso (never cafe latte or capuccino), but they believe it 'rounds off' a meal properly. They will then drink more wine if they want. But coffee is inclusive, not an alternative.

This thread is just as if not more cringeworthy than McCoys. Bunch of blokes gushing over shoes.

Now this is the perfect example of the kind of attitude I despise.

You see there still exists plenty of so called men out there who are so insecure in their own sexuality that they immediately criticise any guy that shows an interest in his appearance, particularly if that means discussing shoes/clothes.

The criticism usually involves outright accusations that the person in question is gay or implied suggestions as such.

You know what is gay? Sucking another guys cock.

You see amongst a certain section of society, real men would never dare to talk about clothes or their appearance. Yet they are the very ones who are so vocal about how other men should dress and look in order to look straight. It would be kind of funny if it wasn't so sad, small minded and pathetic.

Personally I am not all that bothered about what is in fashion but I do appreciate style and quality workmanship in the clothes/shoes I wear. It is also more economically sound to invest in quality handmade goods that last the test of time instead of buying cheap mass produced shit that falls apart in a matter of weeks.

I am also secure enough in my sexuality to be able to wear a pair of cowboy boots because I like them and appreciate the effort that goes into making them by hand and not have to worry that some cunt might draw false conclusions in his pea brain about who I like to fuck.

I don't walk around spending my time wondering if other guys are gay based on what they are wearing. I find it really odd that supposedly straight men are so worried about other mens sexuality. Are they afraid that they might catch the gay or something?

So if I want to talk about clothes/shoes and the like I will do so and if that bothers you then you have bigger issues to worry about frankly.

*applaudes*

I've heard many horror stories about people being left totally in charge weeks after starting with no support from senior staff, or conversely being a year into their job without getting to do much more than vaccinations

I'm glad I'm not a pet owner in the UK. That is unheard of and unspeakable. We don't even leave inexperienced people in charge of fitting someone's wedding dress where I work, let alone in charge of someone's pet's life. That is some seriously fucked up shit. Especially when you take into account the cost of veterinary care. I think it's a good move that you look at getting experience elsewhere.

Must be fun in your dream world

Believe me, it more than likely happens there too, whether you're aware of it or not. Not all workplaces are created equal, in every career path and country good and bad exist.

So you're presuming to tell me what it's like where I live on the other side of the world?

That is exactly what I mean about new grads thinking they know it all.

I've used several vets for more than 8 years here. My last dog had epilepsy and required frequent vet visits. NEVER have I had anyone other than a qualified and experienced vet attend to my pet. Yes it must indeed be fun in my dream world. A dream world with epilepsy. Awesome!

Again, get over yourself and stop making judgments of others.

I've heard many horror stories about people being left totally in charge weeks after starting with no support from senior staff, or conversely being a year into their job without getting to do much more than vaccinations

I'm glad I'm not a pet owner in the UK. That is unheard of and unspeakable. We don't even leave inexperienced people in charge of fitting someone's wedding dress where I work, let alone in charge of someone's pet's life. That is some seriously fucked up shit. Especially when you take into account the cost of veterinary care. I think it's a good move that you look at getting experience elsewhere.

I guess it says something about a culture when they give a shit about Bridezillas seams being straight, but don't give a fuck about some little dogs or cats life.

Especially if youre giving another guy crap about his appearance or whatever.

Who did I give crap to? Seriously. I don't know who I did that to?

I suppose I don't define 'enjoyment' in any way whatsoever. Some people get enjoyment injecting shit that will eventually kill them into their veins, some people enjoy killing small furry animals in an apparent sport called 'hunting', some people enjoy buying shoes and appreciate the smell of new leather. I'm glad I'm the latter.

I think its only fair you get some flak for sniffing shoes when you buy them, especially if you laugh at McCoy at the same time.

Nah, the sniffing bit deserves it although i get what she means

Again, I THOUGHT you had style.

Have you seriously NEVER appreciated the smell of leather when you bought new shoes? Has that moment of realising that quality is not just a visual, but also has a scent, never hit home with you?

I'm very picky about perfume. I loathe many commercial perfumes. I wear a few Chanel, Bulgari, Prada and Annick Goutal perfumes, but the smell of leather is better than any of those fragrances.

Yeah, but he doesn't have a problem with people, oops MEN, talking about clothes.

No, but he'll make comments about those who do. Besides, don't you want to see Lenny?

I think its only fair you get some flak for sniffing shoes when you buy them, especially if you laugh at McCoy at the same time.

I'm sorry, what did you have to do with this? Are you Broski's employee?

Yeah, but he doesn't have a problem with people, oops MEN, talking about clothes.

Fuck me?!?! No. FUCK YOU!!!

(imagine Al Pacino screaming voice)

I'm sorry. I don't know what came over me.

You're forgiven. But don't you dare stop posting in this thread. I need you here.

Are you fucking serious? This is my first port of call when I have mygnr time.

I'll be the last poster here, when everyone else is gone. I'm actually really happy talking about men's fashion. Not quite as happy as I am about women's fashion, but for a long time I thought I didn't have much care for men's fashion, but this thread has given me a new perspective on my appreciation for men's clothing and footwear.

Fuck me?!?! No. FUCK YOU!!!

(imagine Al Pacino screaming voice)

I'm sorry. I don't know what came over me.

I'm sorry, but all that shit is just gaudy as fuck and terrible.

Of course, if you wear it wrong and without style or conviction, anything can be. But worn the right way I prefer anything that projects a sense of style and character than safe and boring. I guess that's just a personal preference.

As Diana Vreeland once said: "I'd rather be vulgar than boring".

And how do you think McCoy will be wearing them?

That's really not my concern. My point was that cowboys boots are not naff or gaudy, it's the wearer that makes them that.

I love seeing someone wear something that is really not 'cool' or 'edgy', but wear it well. And then everyone knows that it looks good on that person and if they tried the same it would look totally crap.

I know that wasn't your point. I do get what you're saying, I just saw an opening for a cheap shot at McCoy and I took it. Sorry, McCoy, but you have your own thread and if you keep fucking up this thread with cowboy boots I'm gonna have to throw a hissy fit.

Yeah! Fuck this! I love cowboy boots and I'm glad to see McCoy buying them but he does have his own thread. I don't even have a thread with which to discuss women's fashion, except The Dress Thread and dresses comprise relatively little of my fashion consumption. So fuck you too Mags! You've got a thread to discuss all things male fashion. Enjoy!

There's a lot more you can do with a cowboy.

Nothing wrong with a cowboy

The thing that seems most ridiculous about this is that the British public are the main source of funds for the BBC domestic sector, yet BBC World which is a pretty standard channel on most international cable services and is broadcast all over the world, is funded by the British government. That just doesn't seem right, does it? The government will foot the bill for every non-British person to watch British news and content, but not for its own citizens to watch their own news and content.

Fuck I hate politicians.

Sugaraylen according to his amount of posts per day:

Don't forget the length of them too.

You do see how fast those fingers are typing, don't you?