Underhardy

Terrible. Embarrassing. And worst of all, totally reminded me of The General video. GNR ain’t much better rn tbh… :/

“Feel the Axl Rose vibe.”

A silly quote on the front page about living and running… this feels like something Axl had absolutely nothing to do with. He may have green lit the idea… that’s it. 

0% chance. Save us fans the embarrassment, please

8 hours ago, ZoSoRose said:

What’s the next big unheard song everyone wants now, anyways? Seven?

Man, I think we’re all way too fatigued and let down by what The General turned out to be. That was supposed to be the true big gun we’ve fantasized about for 2 decades. Hard to really get hyped for anything CD era at this point. We’ll take whatever we can get, of course.

17 minutes ago, Scream of the Butterfly said:

Probably a coincidence but I wonder if Sheila is aware of Monsters (the song) and chose her words intentionally:

"Kennedy, who was a former Penthouse model, has not backed down from her claims and has continued to allege that the assault has left her traumatized. “I have a voice and I don’t want to be called a victim. I want other women to hear this about Axl Rose, he’s a monster and he needs to be held accountable,” she said on Thursday. “And I’m here today to make sure that happens.”

Kennedy noted that it was “difficult” to talk about the assault but she wanted to get her story out there. “I think it’s really important that we need to make this industry safe for women,” she explained. “There are so many victims that feel shame, that feel guilty. Feel like they when they go to sleep at night, they have nightmares and it needs to stop this monster needs to be stopped: Axl Rose.”"

Obviously she has no clue about the song ‘Monsters.’ What an asinine thing to ponder.

2 hours ago, BucketEgg said:

why are all the comments for the reddit discussion deleted?

https://old.reddit.com/r/GunsNRoses/comments/19elxty/guns_n_roses_the_general_official_music_video/

the reddit moderators are weird

Reddit mods 100% have TB ties. Just like Jarmo in the old days. They protect the band/Axl by censoring half the sub

Yes, I think the band leaked the tracks. Didn’t GN’R officially register ‘The General and Monsters,’ a week before the leak? Why would Monsters just be tacked on to the documentation… seems to me the band was planning the leak immediately following the delayed release. Who really would’ve been able to get soundboard mixes of these 2 songs and leak them

Usually when GNR post something on their socials, whether it be sub-par live Axl vocals, or a rare new song, the comments section is relatively positive from the casual fan base. Most of the comments on Instagram are people saying that the song sucks. Not good. I actually like the general, but I can totally see how fans don’t.

Where there’s smoke, there’s fire, I believe. The amount of accusations combined with Axl having deeply disturbing abuse experience in his youth, leads me to think some of these accusations could be true. Don’t really care that much either way but just my 2 cents. 

19 hours ago, twistoflemon21 said:

He usually underarms it pretty lightly. With all the hands in the air trying to grab it, I'm surprised people get a face full of mic. I remember Rock In Rio 2011 when he absolutely hurled it into the crowd.

In the 90s he threw it like an 80 MPH fastball.

1 hour ago, Slugworth said:

My favorite Superbowl fantasy is the one when McCartney was doing the Superbowl and fans speculated that during Live and Let Die, Axl would burst out from under the stage, do the screams, and the crowd would go ape shit.

Omg imagine.. Axl fucking ripped those screams in prime form in 2016 every damn time. Haven’t heard the screams in 2023, but it’s always been a shining moment for him even into his later years.

There’s not one chance someone side-stage was telling Axl not to go into The General’s meaning. To me, it seemed Axl was kind of taking the piss out of it. He said it’s a ‘new’ song, then probably thought, well, a 20-year-old new song, and he just said Nevermind instead of getting into that. 

2 minutes ago, Powerage5 said:

So I guess this settles the debate over whether The General/Monsters is one song or two huh?  

It’s dumbfounding that anyone would ever think that… one song is clearly about child abuse and the other clearly about a romantic relationship gone bad (Seymour). 
 

Pleasantly surprised that the performance of The General wasn’t a train wreck, from Axl specifically. The chorus is all Mickey so it’s not the biggest challenge in the world for Axl, he even forced out more rasp on it live compared to the studio. Pretty much nailed the outro wails as well. Good shit, Guns. Fingers crossed for Monsters at some point 

‘For the hell I let you put me through’ I believe on the bridge of Monster 

34 minutes ago, Uncle Bob said:

Lyrics from the general seem to be an "evolution" of these lyrics Axl wrote when he was younger

Haven’t read those in a minute. Damn. I definitely see a correlation in some of those lines to The General. The use of Daddy, the references to his family hiding the truth from him. When you frame Axls life in the 80s and 90s through this lens, it really tells you why he was so problematic and manic.. it gives ‘Appetite For Destruction’ a much darker meaning to him. 

You know, Taylor swift gets a lack of flack for her amount of breakup songs. Axl gives her a run for her money with the Seymour songs haha. Not hating, I love how he writes his deepest emotions into songs. Monsters lyrics are basically an extension of There Was A Time, same vibe, about a crazy narcissistic woman who is emotionally and mentally tormenting Axl. ‘I would do anything for you, there was a time.’ And ‘I was there for you, it’s all that I could do.’ And of course a couple lines about the promiscuous sexual nature of the lady. I wish I could make out what Axls deep vocals are on the song. ‘The Monsters have _____ me,’ is what I hear, there’s a super heavy robotic effect on those deep vocals, unlike the more raw deep vocals on TWAT and Shacklers. 
 

Really hope we get State of Grace soon… it’s interesting that The General at the end has the same vocal scatting melodys as State of Grace in the climax of that song. Half of the parts, Axl seemed to not have the lyrics for yet. He’s 100% switching between singing words and just the Melodies at the end of The General and I can’t imagine that’s what Axl wanted the final outcome to be. Just like how he eventually found the right words to end Street of Dreams.

You know… I shit on these songs for Axls lyrics and effects on his vocals… particularly on The General, I still can’t make our half of that songs lyrics. But.. holy shit is the potential there in these songs to be all timers… some of the vocals mixing just bothers me, but aside from that… these are fucking insanely cool/amazing songs 

12 minutes ago, Unagi said:

 

 

Yes because that's what the world needs right now, a song about child abuse from an 80s rock band, sung by a 60 year old posing as the victim. 

Jesus, do you people even live in the real world. 

I can't wait to see the general public's reaction to this stinker of a song. 

It'll be as popular as Jimmy Saville at a kid's birthday party. 

 

No one outside of these forums will ever even hear these songs.. the circle jerk in these threads is wild

36 minutes ago, TheDemocracyRose said:

Not the Guns N' Roses I like. Sounds like a mess and fits with a b-side...

The vocal minority saying this is better than ‘blues based cock rock,” is.. absurd.. a song about daddy and another Seymour song presumably about how she hurt and abused him emotionally… the lyrics to monster are fucking cringe. The rasp part lyrics are cringe. It’s clear why these stayed on the shelf for so long.. instrumentals are epic… Axl not so much.

The sensationalism being spewed about these tracks is mind-boggling. Are plants in this bitch?

Anyone remember that story of how TB members had to turn off Axls cable to prevent him from seeing a news story about him on tv, or something to that effect? How hard do you think Fernando is trying to make sure Axl didn’t find out before the show..

It just dawned on me that perhaps Axl wanted Monsters to be included at the last minute which may explain the sudden delay. Would explain why it was only marketed as only The General at first.

Does it not bother anybody else how fucked these vocals are, for Axls standards.. the effects that he hides his voice behind.. the bizarre layering.. he has one of the best voices in music history, showcased on many CD songs… The instrumentals are absolutely amazing.. it’s the vocals that just kill it for me.. even the rasp used in the bridge of Monsters just doesn’t sound right at points.. sounds like an Axl cover singer.. just shocked