Underhardy

The sensationalism being spewed about these tracks is mind-boggling. Are plants in this bitch?

Anyone remember that story of how TB members had to turn off Axls cable to prevent him from seeing a news story about him on tv, or something to that effect? How hard do you think Fernando is trying to make sure Axl didn’t find out before the show..

It just dawned on me that perhaps Axl wanted Monsters to be included at the last minute which may explain the sudden delay. Would explain why it was only marketed as only The General at first.

Does it not bother anybody else how fucked these vocals are, for Axls standards.. the effects that he hides his voice behind.. the bizarre layering.. he has one of the best voices in music history, showcased on many CD songs… The instrumentals are absolutely amazing.. it’s the vocals that just kill it for me.. even the rasp used in the bridge of Monsters just doesn’t sound right at points.. sounds like an Axl cover singer.. just shocked 

It’s sad. I hear the makings of absolute epics, all time classics. But it’s only half of that. I really feel like Axl fell short. He wanted to use voices that didn’t make him famous… all this spoken singing and weird mega-phone effects just really bring these down. The general repeats the first verse nearly identically in the second verse.. the last 4 lines are scratch vocals or he just gave up on writing the lyrics. Fuck man I wish I could get with these tracks but the ideas Axl came up with just don’t get them there. I’m just very let down by Axl in the way he’s putting out these songs in lesser form than they could be. Perhaps became unlistenable for me because of Axls vocal takes. I can’t imagine the dudes in the band vibed with a lot of these vocal takes either.. 

1 minute ago, Jordan Rose said:

Just finished work and listening on my phone speaker as my earphones are shot. I just will never understand why with that incredible voice(s) he feels the need for the multi layers, effects and burying it to where you can't make out lyrics. The This I Love remix, gimme that voice up front, man. 

Would love to hear the vocal isolated. 

So agree. The terrible mix on the vocals along with the layering and tacky effects really kill it for me

Just now, WhazUp said:

The General's lyrics certainly themed around abuse, I am curious does anyone remember how specifically it was already known that The General in particular was about child abuse?  I can't remember exactly how that came to light before we knew the lyrics themselves from today

In a 2001 press release from the Rock in Rio promoter, it was said that one of the unreleased songs centered around child abuse. Pretty sure that’s the only thing concrete. Through process of elimination, rumors began that the song referred was The General

1 minute ago, DingBat said:

It's about him/or someone being abused by his "daddy", it's nothing to with "we were a pair, we broke up, it was all your fault".

I was talking about Monsters. I know the subject matter, songs suck bud

I LOVED Axls lyrics on State of Grace. More general lyrics about human beings and the corruption and emotions we see and feel. The General misses the mark with me… the daddy lyrics just miss the mark for me. What, did Axl re hash some lyrics from ‘Daddy, Can The Devil Do Mommy and Me?’ And Monsters is just the same old shit as hard school. We were a pair, we broke up, it was all your fault.. just fucking lame. 

This just further confirms that Axl should’ve in fact written another appetite. These songs and all of the shitty tacky vocal effects are not good. This is why Axl was told he has 2 to 3 good songs.. can hardly make out half of the vocals. I finally understand why these songs were shelved for decades. 

You know the vocals are mixed like shit when you can’t even make out half of the words to both songs. Just like Street of Dreams’ demo, or state of Grace, the last lines of the general are just Axl singing the melody, presumably waiting for the right lyrics to come to mind. Both songs just sound completely muffled, with no good structure. The only good part in both songs is really the rasp breakdown on Monsters, and even those vocals just sound a little weird. This fuckin sucks

Underwhelming. Not hits and songs no one outside of these forums would listen to twice. Waiting for higher quality versions to come out in time. 

Fuck this band, Axl and TB. They’ve never done a god damn thing right by the fans. The Troubadour 2016 show was legitimately the only thing they’ve done right. 

4 minutes ago, estrangedtwat said:

....wait, you guys are all counting on an official digital release?

 

WTF?

 

I thought we were counting down til someone gets their hands on the vinyl and shares it with us.  That's the only way we're gonna hear it.

If you're waiting for pristine digital clarity, you're in for a much, much longer wait.  That's not gonna happen til a true audiophile with an amazing set up can rip the vinyl and share it with us.  Could be a while.

I see no reason why someone won't just hit "record" on their phone like they did with Perhaps at the jukebox.

 

I thought we were all on the same page here in that understanding.  If you really think something's gonna happen at midnight New Zealand time, you're in for a big letdown.

 

Allegedly, the vinyl exists.  All we can do now is wait.  But it literally should be any day now.  Maybe even today.....

You can tell which fans have really been following this band since the 2000s and who hasn’t.

I don’t think it’ll be released to streaming services. Just a hunch from a smart fan reading through the tea leaves here. Hopefully YouTube ain’t gonna delete the videos when people rip them, that’d be fucked up.

3 hours ago, Free Bird said:

 after 15 years I still have to meet somebody outside of the gnr forums who knows this song. Perfect for the masses but the masses do not know.

It was a botched single release. No Axl promotion, the music video was canned. The whole thing was a mess, if that song and the album were properly promoted and released Better could’ve been much more mainstream. 

Better. A perfect nuGuns song. Perfect for the masses and the die hards. Should’ve been the lead single and handled better. 

6 minutes ago, AxlRoseCDII said:

Since when in the everliving fuck would Hard Skool ever be considered a greatest hit? 

I despise when bands throw their new/unreleased songs at the end of a greatest hits album. So wrong

Love how Axl goes for it on the Perhaps chorus. It’s just a little out of control, and it’s fucking awesome.

I cherish his one-offs with NuGNR. He doesn’t like the limelight at all, wants no attention, I respect that. It’s a real shame he can’t be onstage with the current lineup though. As OP said, the band is buttoned up and professional now, Izzy could probably roll with that. One day, hopefully 

Here's a video I made on the CD tour. It's part one, so it covers years 1994-2001 leading up to the CD tour. Tried to get in as many details as I could. I think you guys will enjoy

Also, here's my favorite video I've made, covering Axl/DC in detail.

51 minutes ago, StrangerInThisTown said:

I don't get how you come to that conclusion. Why would it be that way? I simply believe they think it's hilarious to release it with the original General Tsos Chicken working title. I doubt theres someone actually called The General in the lyrics when we know the source of what the title actually references, a joke working title.

I guess it would be so GNR to have their most anticipated unreleased A-List song be named the working title named after chicken. Kinda like their first single being ‘new material’ being Absurd. With rumors that the songs lyrics are about something as serious as child abuse, especially to Axl, I just can’t imagine him not re-naming the song.