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3 minutes ago, alfierose said:

Another poster pm'd me mentioning this also. Was it played just before Paradise City?

Must have been one of the times that all of the streams were down. 

Pretty good show with the exception of some mickey here and there. No Seeker makes it even better. Hopefully the trend continues

Damn, I wanted to hear it

Damn, they got pumped for SCOM haha

Just took Axl a little bit to warm up. The last 2 songs were good, and as always my hero Slash is fucking killing it!

This Coma is badass

10 minutes ago, foreverguns said:

if you love gnr like i do, go and see the concerts don't waste your fuckin time seeing iphone streams or other low quality live streams.you must be insane toto watch those low fi videos and pretending you are are live with the band how sick can this thing be???

Most of us do go to live shows and just want to watch live streams of the concerts we can't attend. So if you don't like it, nobody cares. Last summer, when they first got back together, lots of people were watching almost every concert of the NA leg of the tour and loved it.

Axl fucking killed Black Hole Sun! Hopefully that replaces The Seeker

There it is!

I heard a little Mickey on YCBM for sure lol

that was the first thing I thought too @Blake Sabbath  As soon as you posted it I thought "Damn I like that one".

Not too bad. It is nice and simple.

Sucks recovering from my back surgery I had yesterday, but these Percocets, muscle relaxers, and live streams help a little

I can't believe that you even made this a thread lol

1 hour ago, Lowrlder54 said:

has anyone ever gotten a pit ticket from one of these pre-sales? I always seem to have more success with the Citi presale than fan presales 

Citi presale seats have been better every show that I looked at on the previous legs,compared to the shitty Nightrain presales. That was another reason Nightrain can suck me. Although I have seen some people saying they got pit tickets from NT I never did.

This is exactly what I knew they were going to do, add more shows. I was just hoping that there would be something else. This is just what being a GNR fan has become. Sales probably weren't going as well for the last leg so their great "team" and Live Nation probably got together to come up with this marketing idea to add some excitement to adding these shows.

Oh well, I really wasn't expecting too much. Like @RussTCB said, vote with your wallet if you are unhappy. I will see them if they come to my market, but I won't go any where else. No more stupid Nightrain packages or over priced shit tees from the ir store either. I still love the music but when you look at how bands like Metallica, Pearl Jam, and U2 etc. treat their fans compared to GNR you see a huge difference. 

6 minutes ago, Live Like a Suicide said:

Hell, i've only been a member for just over a year and know how things work. In fact, anyone who call themselves a fan of the band should know they oversell and underdeliver.

Sad but true. Oh well, guess I am just a glutton for punishment.

Can't lie I would also love it, but we all know how they love to disappoint 

23 minutes ago, uncivil war said:

I think I've worked it out. "Back where it all began"...

 

"Live...Like a Suicide" EP re-release, remixed and remastered with a brand new cover...

If that was the case Live Nation wouldn't need to be involved

1 hour ago, ZoSoRose said:

 

1 hour ago, ZoSoRose said:

My exs family was from Battle Creek MI and some knew him from high school. I hear he is doing more than fine financially. 

Jason has always been kind of reclusive, I doubt he regrets his choice

 I heard him on Eddie Trunk last year and he got a little into his finances. Talked about losing money on his Newsted project and about the Black album still selling well. He only talked a about it because Eddie kept irritating him. 

As far as this interview goes, you can tell he has issues with the GNR guys. It seems pretty understandable after what they went thru on that tour. Just because we love GNR doesn't mean he isn't right. 

1 hour ago, soon said:

GNR is one of the best - maybe the best - rock bands of all time.

I start with that because I believe it and because of what I'm about to say.

 

So if we talk about a future of rock, we acknowledge that rock is in motion and progresses.

Theres an argument out there that GNR set the progression of rock music back 20 years.  In the 80's there was some really creative and forwarding thinking things happening in rock.  Bands like Talking Heads.  I like a lot of that scene too. But not like I love GNR.  Anyways, I think that the forward lineage of rock was kinda broken when business people had to decide, should they follow the culture of rock to all these new and exciting places or should they go by the established methods of making millions? There were tried and true sounds and attitudes that made millions and then there was these quirky, subversive art rockers.  So, even as popular as this new sound and identity in rock was, tried and true got the investment money.  Thats capitalist thought - culture doesn't mater, in fact culture is often the enemy.  Weird how the aesthetics of blues, outlaw county, punk and metal all seemed familiar to execs, but i guess it felt safer then the actual mainstreaming and popularization of irony, postmodernism, political subversion and the untested business models required to support that work.

By the time I was coming of age Third Eye Blind and Match Box 20 were considered rock bands.  Something went terribly wrong.  And maybe the 'GnR setting music back' (by way of corporate risk-weighing) theory is an answer to what went wrong?

 

I saw Arron Lewis of Staind open for Willie Nelson last year and he spoke of the record execs telling them "Rap rock is the thing now, so you gotta do that sound and wear these clothes..."  Which is identical to what Ive heard Amy Lee from Eanessene say.  In that case she admits the label forced them to have rap on their early singles.  Or there's Incubus who's debut was rap metal and second album was pop rock - more true to themselves in that case.  

What would AFD5 say to those label demands?  I believe they'd say: "Fuck Off!"

Somewhere along the way it got to the point where up and coming musicians wanted to look and feel like rebels, but started voluntarily calling albums "products" and bands "brands."  The trade publications and guitar mags conditioned those of weak enough resolve to be ready to say "sure, Ill put a rap on my song, whatever you say boss."

You put a leather wrist band on and apparently your Duff?  Nope.

 

I think something can be said about how when hip hop became mainstream many of its giants were mysteriously killed, bankrupted, publicly humiliated or imprisoned.  And on a different stroke, we are currently painfully aware that the grunge and early 90s rockers weren't kidding about the misery they expressed in their lyrics.  And in addition to misery they were rejecting bigotry in their lyrics . Bigotry is part of the status quo.  Now many are no longer with us.  And what the fuck did the biz do to Axl for all those years?!?  Conspiracy?  Well, only if the pressures of the market place are a conspiracy imo. 

 

The Who and GNR have very little to do with one another on the cultural front.  Hard rock is about the only connection (other then the seeker!).  But they'll play shows together soon.  Because execs know that consumers like a big rock show. And capitalism wants to/ need to grow non-stop.  So what does this logic produce?  

They think: "big rocks shows make oodles of dollars!"

"How can we grow the big rock show market?"

"Twice as big, big rock show!"

"How?"

"Twice as many big rock bands in one big rock show!!!!!" 

 

So, Im saying that rock n rolls greatest strength is pure rebellion and rejection of the elites.  And as in all art there is a devastating reality of the market place.  A market place ruled by those very same authorities.  Rock cant live in the market place during the  age of crony capitalism (read: the violent death throws of capitalisms end).  So thankfully its not.  

 

But it will return.  Again and again and again and again... 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't think it is dead, but it seems like the industry has been trying to kill it for years. I agree with all of what you said. I don't understand why rock keeps being ignored by the award shows and radio. It is obvious that rock fans will spend money, just look at all these only rock festivals and cruises. They make a ton of money! All these award shows don't even have actual rock bands in the rock categories anymore. It has become ridiculous. Just look at how the Grammy's had Beyonce in the rock category lat year. 21 Pilots have a few songs I like, but they are not rock.

5 minutes ago, AxlRoseCDII said:

The worst part about these videos and timeline is that they get me so damn hyped and they're super fucking exciting and cool and I think maybe, just maybe this is going to be something amazing- new music, new album, interviews. I almost feel like I'm at the edge of my seat and I can't damn wait until Wednesday.

 

And then I remember this is Guns n' Roses.

Exactly how I feel!  I still enjoy getting hyped up even if it is just to be let down.

New dates in LA, possibly more NA dates. I also could see a DVD/Bluray too, probably later down the line. So 3 or 5, for me, although none of the options would surprise me.

 It would be cool to see them together. I love both bands. LN is probably just trying to get everyone hyped up to announce a new leg of the tour.

I really do think they will do something special in LA for the fans. The sign hasn't been seen there for that long for nothing.

I would like to see them again before they die lol. I had nosebleed seats the last time I saw them but it was a really good show.