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2 minutes ago, AdriftatSea said:

So you think he should pay financially? And that will make things better. I think this video was taken before they were married. Why marry someone that gets that upset?

Only one of them has been arrested for domestic abuse and it wasn't him. There is something wrong with her. 

Because she was in love, people get into a really weird place when they feel deeply for someone. It can make you try and rationalise the most destructive of behaviours.

And yes, if you abuse someone you deserve to pay in multiple ways... there's no excuse for it. None. It's the least that could be done.

And you must forget that he's been arrested for violence before too. You're also ignoring that his behavioural issues have been noted throughout his entire career (incl. violence and destruction of property). You're ignoring a lot to try and justify your blind defence of Johnny.

13 minutes ago, AdriftatSea said:

He was behaving badly yet why film him? She had money on her mind. I would have been packing. 

When someone hurts you badly, especially if it's psychological/emotional/physical abuse, it's awfully appealing to not want to see them prosper. If a man hit me and abused me in other ways, then if I had to see him be praised as this amazing person (which is only heightened because he's famous), that can continue the psychological damage. You're not instantly healed because you get away.

This video being released and the reaction to it, proves that a man could be recorded being violent and abusive yet people will still defend him for whatever reason. The video was disgusting, and I hope Amber finds peace when she no longer has to be associated with this asshole.

I hope it flops.

Anyone surprised this is terrible clearly weren't paying attention to the trailers. It was obviously going to be a mess.

1 minute ago, Kickingthehabit said:

And what you've done is indulged in a form of narcissism known as "image crafting," chiming in with an opinion we’ve heard at least a thousand times. Not all models are stupid. Great work, Social Justice Warrior!!! You're smart and you can say adult things!

The attitude you're exhibiting isn't making you sound as intelligent or funny as you seem to think. It's pretty much just desperate and sad.

1 minute ago, maxpax said:

Well, yeah. I know that most of them have their a-levels, etc. But seriously...most of them are damn superficial and the talk with them is simply stupid. Maybe i'm wrong, but I doubt that these girls are gnr fans...they are just there for the hashtags, fame, gnr jackets, party..

How many models do you know? Just because they work in a field centred on looks, doesn't mean that's all they have to offer. Also, you can't predict who will be fans of what. Your entire post is just full of stereotypes and assumptions.

7 minutes ago, Kickingthehabit said:

I'm sure they wanted to ask Slash about Mixolydian scales and not just suck his cock because he's famous.

I was just arguing against the point that 'model=dumb'.

3 hours ago, maxpax said:

I seriously doubt that these girls are "intelligent". 

Why, because they're models?

21 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

Your post reminded me of the part where he's like "THAT'S NOT HOW MEMORIES WORK!" 

We're clearly connected on that front. Yet even when put in to 5 simple words it's still too much for some people to grasp lol.

51 minutes ago, SoniaRose said:

Who the hell do you think you are to tell fans of a movie series how they should feel about it? They have every right to be pissed off. This turd just fucked the relaunch of the whole franchise. 

I'm not telling you how to feel, I'm just telling you that to act like this movie ruins every good thing about the original is ridiculous. You're not being forced to watch the new one, your life hasn't been affected by it, the original hasn't been affected by it and you need to calm down tbh.

11 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

These have echoed my thoughts from the start:
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/slq79b/-midnight-with-chris-hardwick-this-cast-has-no-d--k---the--ghostbusters--remake

Great vid lol. There's so many remakes/reboots out there, and yet this is the one that's got a lot of people riled up. 

There's a bunch of remakes coming up of movies that I love, but unless there's a legitimate moral or social reason to oppose it, then I won't.

2 hours ago, SoniaRose said:

He's passionate about Ghostbusters. They fucked up the new one. Majorly. It stinks. 

I think you need to get over that people think this is a steaming pile of shit. 

In your opinion and his they may have fucked the new movie up, but that doesn't change the old one. To act like it does is ridiculous. You dislike it? Fine, move on and don't throw a temper-tantrum about it.

On 19/07/2016 at 1:33 PM, Iron MikeyJ said:

As for Dan's comments a couple of posts back, really dude go fuck yourself. I'm sure there are plenty of films, music, or whatever's that you feel passionate about and if someone was fucking those up you would be mad. So don't come in here and act all high and mighty because YOU don't know what the fuss is all about. 

No one's fucking up a film you're passionate about. It's not like as soon as this film was released, the original was destroyed in all media forms and made unavailable. It's still here.

I'm not overjoyed by the fact that there's a sequel to Finding Nemo or that there's going to be a Toy Story 4, but I just ignore it. Shit gets remade, get over it.

38 minutes ago, HeartbreakerWoman said:

So the guy should:

1) Spend time in jail, and probably end up being ass raped and have to live with the lifelong trauma of that
2) Spend the rest of his life probably unable to get any decent job, and living out a shitty life

Because he whistled once at a woman, and did nothing more than that?

Are you trolling?

lol, you're really reaching here. If all it takes to not get arrested is not verbally assaulting someone, it's quite easy. Just keeps your words and your whistles to yourself.

3 minutes ago, Len B'stard said:

I agree but thats you, you personally but we're talking about legislating something so human nature and human prejudices come into play.  Say a 19 stone black guy approaches a lady on the street with a hello or an innocuous approach that she finds scary and encroaching that she wouldn't from another kind of person?  Thats my point, it's about interpretation and there are degrees and levels to that and when you get to legislating against something like a type of whistle then you're into murky ground.

I see your point there. I guess what would have to be examined in that area is what was said etc. I think like with any new law or new approach to a pre-existing one, there will be kinks that need to be worked out along the way (like racial dynamics you just mentioned) but I do think it's good to have a base in some form so a precedent can be set.

7 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

Women walk around all the time getting wolf whistled at my morons, and that's something most men don't really understand fully, but I imagine it would be intimidating to walk down a street and be whistled and heckled at, if I was on my own. Just don't fully agree with calling it a hate crime. Make it a crime, give it a penalty, call it a verbal assault. If it was in the workplace it would be a fireable offence. A large fine, or possible court appearance would deter people a lot more than calling it a hate crime. 

The problem is that there's a backlash happening at the moment with people feeling everyone is overly sensitive, so the wrong label on something like this undermines it a little IMO.

Hate crime in the UK includes harassment based on gender-identity, sexuality, race or disability. So it technically is one.

The rest of your post is on point though, thank you.

7 minutes ago, Len B'stard said:

You'd be setting a very dangerous legal prescedent there.  I mean what would this be predicated on?  I suppose it would be offence taken right, how one percieves the wolf whistling, cuz they'd have to have felt encroached upon or threatened to report it to the cops right?  Where do you draw the line there?  I mean there's a way in which you can approach a complete stranger and say hello that could be construed by the person on the recieving end as potentially threatening.

Also, how'd you know what someones whistling at?  They could just go 'i weren't whistling at you'.

Speaking from experience, there's a clear difference in how one speaks and the tone they use when it comes to genuinely speaking to someone vs cat calling.

and if someone's the former, if you say "sorry, I have to go" or whatever, they're understanding.

3 minutes ago, HeartbreakerWoman said:

If a guy does it ONCE at an attractive woman passing, he should get a fine or be locked up and have "verbal assault" on his record, and be fucked in his life forever?
 

Yes, because he verbally harassed someone so that should be recorded. It's really quite easy to not shout things at random people on the street, surprisingly.

1 minute ago, HeartbreakerWoman said:

You realize in most cases it's just a guy being an idiot, though? That's all it really is. People are waaay too sensitive nowadays. I mean if you're walking somewhere after dark and the guy is following you and whistling and making lewd comments ("Ey Mamacita! Look at them jugs!"), I can understand feeling intimidated. But if you're on a city street in broad daylight, and some lonely unoffensive dude does it once, and you get scared, then that's more on you than on them. A guy shouldn't have a criminal record and be fucked for the rest of his life because you're overly sensitive. 

This idea that men can get away with harassment because "they're just being idiots" or my personal favourite "he's a man, what do you expect!". I expect a level of human decency from them that these types of men clearly aren't willing to afford to women. You can't be passive all the time, sometimes actions needs to be taken.

2 minutes ago, Dazey said:

But do you think it's something that should see the person in question arrested? 

I think they should be fined, then after a certain amount of times arresting them would seem logical. It won't be less common until people there's more repercussions for things like this.

It also depends on the level of harassment involved.

Just now, HeartbreakerWoman said:

It's not a "hate crime". A wolf whistle is simply a whistle. It's if anything a stupid compliment. Something to just roll one's eyes at or shake their head at. Now, if the whistling is followed by the man approaching the woman or following her or such or acting in an intimidating manner, then it's a crime.

To you it may just be a whistle, but when I'm walking somewhere by myself it's intimidating. I just want to reach my location, and these men know nothing of value is to be gained from this, they do it because they know you don't like it. It's purposeful intimidation.

2 minutes ago, Dazey said:

Yeah, still not a "hate crime".

You could classify it as one based on gender, like I said, cat-calling isn't the result of love, affection and respect.

These men do this simply because I'm a woman, I'm targeted because I'm a woman. That can fall under a hate crime.

16 minutes ago, Dazey said:

But that wasn't the point of the original post. Nobody is going to argue with you that such things aren't reprehensible but how exactly do you legislate any of that as a criminal offence without getting into 1984 thought crime territory? 

Quite easily, it's harassment and it's verbal abuse. If these men want to objectify and think disgusting things, literally no one can stop them. But to verbalise those thoughts, especially to the person they're about is horrible. There should be some legal ramifications for that, because asking them to stop is an invitation to being followed/attacked even further.

The replies to this thread aren't surprising, for every woman/girl that speaks up about something like this, there's multiple men ready to say she's 'overreacting'. It's been happening to me since I was 7 years old in my school uniform, and sometimes that uniform seemed to make it even worse. 

This one creepy guy kept circling around in the supermarket while I was with my mother just to continually and repeatedly look me up-and-down. Guys yelling about how they'll show you a good time, trying to intimidate and get you to react when you're just trying to go about your day is frightening. Especially when you hear the stories of men who have reacted physically to being ignored or told to stop.

They don't do this because they love and respect women, they do it because they have an inherent disrespect and yes, damn-near hatred of women.

6 hours ago, SoulMonster said:

People also get the perception from the media that the police is worse than they are.

Not from the media, from the police themselves and the lack of punishment they receive for killing black people.

10 hours ago, bran said:

as dead as tommen baratheon.

WTF?