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1 hour ago, bucketOtrouble said:

found out it's about the rose of turaida, an Estonian legend.

Really? Strange. That's actually a Latvian legend as far as I know. 

1 hour ago, bucketOtrouble said:

love it!anyone knows what it refers to?

Most likely Estonian Song and Dance Celebration

Local radio is currently airing an interview with Alan Niven. Mindbender on Raadio 2 (Peter Napoliello). https://r2.err.ee

It should be available for full listening later in here: https://r2.err.ee/mindbender

Yay, it's happening! Sorry for being late but I'm here now. I agree, ain't it a bitch is not about recording as it's pretty clearly about a relationship. What confuses me a bit is the she-you-I thing.

At first I thought that he referred to himself as in the "you" in the first verse, but the second verse gets confusing as he writes that i'm (he's?) not gonna stress and that it's all your (his) mess. Those two don't really go together well when he is referring to himself as the "you", not unless he is suddenly changing POVs.

But then there's the bridge (?) part after the first verse that goes "I tell ya one thing, yeah that's the last time I lose my head again, I'll keep my mouth shut" sounds like the "you" in the first verse is him.

But then the bridge after the second verse goes the same, but instead of "I", he uses "you" so... ??? Also, third verse, suddenly it's you split and you had it again, not she (like in 1st verse), so in the 3rd verse, the "you" is the "she" from the 1st verse. So it could be about examining different POVs in relationships and whose fault it really is.

Anyway, the conclusion I arrived to is that the "you" really is sb else, not Izzy. Mostly because of the "Ain't that a bitch I'm not gonna stress Ain't that a bitch It's all your mess" and the "I" in there.

Ofc he could also really just be changing the POVs however he wants... All in all, I'm probably (definitely) analysing too much. I've made a mess of this post

See, if I was really crazy about analysing I'd go on about how the song could be about different situations (in which case, recording could also be one of them) and how Izzy uses a cut-up technique and from there on, i'd go to postmodernism...  ... but not that crazy yet

Meaning-wise, whomever it addresses, not sure if it is just a you-screwed-up-haha-f-you song or more of a bitter hey-look-the-blame-is-on-you-again thingy.

Really good song though, hadn't listened to it much before this topic.

Also why the hell call the song ain't it a bitch when he says ain't that a bitch every time? Or am i hearing wrong?? 

Hi!! I'm drunk and back again. I was really surprised when I could remember my password so I figured I should post. I've been starting uni and casually dying. I'm probably gonna regret this in the morning. Okay, so I should actually start a topic right now. Hm. ... So awhile back there was a thread about izzy's songs?!? Ranking or sth?!? Did i miss the ending or did it just die out and if it did, we should resurrect it

Whiskey is never a good idea even if you think it is

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I got drunk last night and talked to a friend about school and then I dreamt that we went to a school party and the new kids were totally crazy, jumping off ledges, and one boy laughed and tried to hang himself, but I saved him. One of my teachers was famous and she interviewed us for her show and I kept breaking the microphone and just putting it back together.

I also dreamt that I saw a hallucination of my dead cat and he told me that he really wanted to explain a chord progression in Mozart’s symphony to me. It was really weird and specific, I can still see the sheet music in front of my eyes and I think it was on staff 39? Anyway, my brother helped me to find it on the vinyl, but then my cat just kind of left and I didn’t really care anymore.

And my friend had a stalker and we trapped him in a net in my bedroom

You all know a LOT and I don’t yet, so feel free to correct me if I make a fact mistake

Axl said that uyi was straying from their sound, but in my opinion, uyi worked for them and while I love afd and would take 10 of them happily, I’m not sure if gnr would’ve been able or even willing to make another appetite. Even if Axl said he was ready to create another afd-style album, the band wasn’t living on the streets anymore, that afd-era us against them pack mentality was pretty much gone when they started turning against each other. Appetite was created because of the way they were living.

A Slash-oriented blues rock/traditional album would’ve been possible if Axl did agree to it, but would they (especially Axl) have been able to accept whatever it was that they would’ve pulled together? You can't really force yourself to work with people you can't get along with and by that time, there was a lot of conflict in the band. I’m not a musician, but I write and I think that even if it is possible to force yourself into creating, it’s most likely not going to be that good, because you are not putting everything you have into it. I’m not sure that album would’ve had better fate than chinese. And even if they had made that one more traditional album, things could’ve still gone off the rails after that.

Moreover, what pulled me to them is the difference between afd and uyi. They had a lot more ahead, you can hear it with coma, locomotive, breakdown (underrated) and estranged- maybe an overstatement, but they could’ve been the next queen or beatles or stones. Of course, some would prefer them to stay afd-style. I love afd’s rawness and I love illusion epics and I do think that one doesn’t rule out the other. By remaking afd, it could’ve possibly created the acdc thing- I like acdc as much as the next person, but most of the songs I’ve heard sound the same to me.

I think they all made a lot of mistakes- the drugs, drinking, apathy that stemmed from it, their failure to communicate  Also, Axl figured he should be the one to impose progress and by doing it, whether it was his plan or not, he alienated others. Change has to happen naturally.

Also, I noticed how much I wrote Axl’s name. Maybe it’s just me, but I haven’t seen anything from Slash or Duff that corroborates Axl’s story about his willingness to write a “Slash album” or an afd-style album. I tried to find something, but I’m kind of tired and also not very good at it. I’ll try to find something later. Though in the one that @killuridols posted (http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=16), Slash does say: "But from my point of view, I just wanna do a brash hard rock record, with maybe one ballad on it. Ask Axl the same question and you'd get a completely different answer"

Maybe there really wasn’t another way this could have gone. Nobody from afd5 has strayed very far from rock in their solo work. You take the afd lineup apart; those solo albums are exactly what you get. If afd wasn’t possible and neither was progress or just a simple hard rock album- maybe that was it.

I’m speculating and I realize that. It’s a lot of question marks everywhere.

Also

From all those interviews @Blackstar posted, I don’t think nuguns ever even had a chance with Axl, subconsciously or not. He keeps talking about how Slash was the only guitarist who could do what he wanted.

Sorry if the post is a bit incoherent- like I said, I didn’t get much sleep tonight

New here, so not sure whether the artist is supposed to start with k or the song, because in the beginning of the thread, it was the song, but ehhh, screw it

Kkkkatie- i love her crazy dance :')

sorry, i'm drunk

(if i knew how to use that hidden thingy, i'd cheat and add king crimson- but katie's dance wins)

49 minutes ago, Archtop said:

I don't get it, what was this suppose to represent in the story of GnR?

Axl's the diva in the middle?  

9 hours ago, Archtop said:

But would they have the sense of humour to pull off something like this? 

Maybe in the 80s or 90s, but at this moment, everything is really professional and tactful, so I think no. On the one hand, it would be kind of a sellout thing, but on the other hand, if they do something in that vein, it should be something that is thought-out and true. I'm probably being too idealistic, though, this band has never been very thought-out

8 hours ago, Archtop said:

Its in the rock line interview with Bob Coburn, http://www.a-4-d.com/t575-1993-01-dd-interview-with-izzy-and-jimmy-and-rick-from-ju-ju-hounds

Bob Coburn: Now "Ju Ju Hounds." Never heard a name close to that. Where'd that come from? Who's got the story behind that?

Izzy: It came out of a song, one of the first songs that we tracked. It was called "Out of Your Blood." And uh... there was a line in there, "Ju Ju Hound," we just kinda pulled it out of the song, and... kept it as a name.

My bad, thanks for clearing that up.

As for the litho thing, not sure if it's official and I realize that the cross is well-known, but if they ever do release something new with this incarnation, they should create a whole new logo- if you're doing it, at least do it right, don't profit off the past and people who are not there anymore

That monopoly thing would actually work. If you take a chance card with drug charges, you go to jail, a card with the St Louis riot or Axl being late for a concert and the band playing over the curfew, you pay to the community chest. The buildings could be the ones on the strip and hell house for example. Also, if you go bankrupt, you can just make more merch or a greatest hits album

@Fourteenbeers Pretty sure I'm there already. And who would want to recover from that?  Also, I know I've read it somewhere during my lurking days, but can anyone remind me where the ju ju hounds name originates from? I may be wrong, but wasn't it a misheard lyric? Maybe I'm just making things up, but I've been listening to a Dylan song a lot currently and I swear, it sounds like he's saying ju ju hounds

Thank you all for the warm welcome  maybe it's just me being weird, but things like the fresh meat picture is one of the reasons I joined this thread