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57 minutes ago, We love Axl Rose said:

32. PC

Wow!  32 songs!!

1 hour ago, Dani_1455 said:

I've just arrived right now, it's true they have played Madagascar?

Do we have Stream right now?

https://fb.watch/dMybMdrJJt/

5 hours ago, Pskihq92 said:

Axl said before silkworms in 2001 it was put together by Chris pitman and dizzy reed

You right! Now I remember that.

On 9/24/2021 at 7:28 PM, ChrisMaciel said:

Fortus mentioned, before Reunion, that some of the Chinese tracks whey were working had initial ideias by old members. Maybe this one of them.

Hard Skool was called Jackie Chan when it leaked.  It had that name because it was supposed to be for a Jackie Chan movie.

There is a video (link below) of a '96 interview of Duff and he talks there about them (him, Slash, and Axl) getting back together to work on songs and ALSO this song for a Jackie Chan movie.  So they have worked on Hard Skool back at that time.

By the way, when the guys play Absurd live, they play with so much energy! They are completely enjoying playing that song.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1776500235915125/permalink/3166789533552848/

Better link here for those not in the group above. The relevant part starts at 7:20 and goes through 8:40.

I'm so happy to see Coma played in this last show. 

I would totally buy the Hard Skool sticker with the Gn'R logo as shown on the on the locker if they make it available for purchase!!

32 minutes ago, amaninjapan said:

Not an official litho

Yes, not official.  Just edited my original post. 

It looks good though!

So there was a second litho (NOT OFFICIAL) for last night's show. It is shared on HTGTH site (link below) and numbered to 50. It's beautiful too! Made by Brent Schoonover, DC and Marvel comic book artist.

I like that it includes all current 7 members in the design.

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=69229.0

2 hours ago, rocknroll41 said:

Linkfire link now exists for HardSkool: https://gunsnroses.lnk.to/hardskool
 

My asshole is still closed… my mouth however…

That sounds like a great sign!!

I'm hopeful!

I love today's lithograph with the Peanuts theme!! Axl, Slash, and Duff are so cute! ! And nice touch on using the Gn'R bullet logo as the moon and adding a rose on the piano . ❤️😍

I don't have a link for the actual litho but here your can see the design.

https://gnrtourtruck.com/collections/featured/products/2021-city-event-tee-st-paul

The design is by Arian Buhler 🤘

6 hours ago, RussTCB said:

What an awesome post. So much different then we experienced just a week ago from a different artist. 

I was thinking the same! 🤘👌

43 minutes ago, Tourettes2400 said:

Love all of that!!! But truthfully I am really looking forward to anything that comes out and I am talking about in any format. I am also loving this communication @Fernando!

Same!!

25 minutes ago, MaskingApathy said:

I went to look but he's made his IG private now. Do you remember what he said?

I agree, I think they could've resolved this in a way that satisfied both parties but he kind of shot himself in the foot there.

23 minutes ago, GnR Chris said:

I can't recall specifically, and I don't want to misquote. But the essence of it was that GNR used to be anti-establishment but now they are part of the corporate greed. The stuff about Axl was talking shit about his vocal performances.

On his Instagram, Geoff May said:

 
“Gunsnroses @slash @duffmckagan you guys let flebeis, @dooh3r  and globalmerchservices represent your band?? You guys used to be all about expression, ruffling feathers.  All about expressing yourselves.
Now you’re all about an asshole manager and a horrible merch company. I can’t believe that growing up I aspired to be like you. You’re all corporate shills dressed up in leather. @official_axlrose hopefully you take some vocal lessons with the money you and globalmerchservices fucked artists out of. I guess you should never meet your heroes.”

 
I have saved a screenshot of his post before he went private if anyone wants to see it.  And he wrote that after Fernando explained why he would not allow APs and wants fans to get lithos at $50 price the band set (which you all read in the entire email from Fernando to Geoff, which I shared yesterday).  He did not like the answer so he went to insult everyone including the band members.  A very immature way to act, in my opinion.

1 hour ago, Fernando said:

Vinyls for sure, physical as well.  Vinyls turn around times are super slow at the moment, but it's in the works. Sorry, this whole proper planning thing is new to me.  

Excited for the vinyls!
🤘🤘🤘

1 hour ago, RussTCB said:

Thanks for the reply and yeah, the pressing plants are way backed up right now. For once, we can't put that on you 😂 

Very glad to hear vinyl is on the way though! 

I'm there for any pre-orders and won't mind waiting for the release. 😊

2 hours ago, ZoSoRose said:

Jokes aside, I do feel for you, @facefirst. However, there is no way you didn't agree to do this work without a proper agreement regarding compensation. You absolutely should get paid a fair amount for your work, but this should of course be decided prior to taking the job on. I could be mistaken but I do not even recall a lot of artists selling GNR APs on their site. The only one that comes to mind was Sara Ray in 2016 and she offered 3 variants ranging from $50-$150 depending on the amount printed. There may have been a few others, but is that something you did on the past tour legs? Even if so, why quote secondary market prices? Selling APs for those numbers would be obscene.

I am all for calling Fernando out, and I enjoy a good TB roast, but in this case, I have to say it appears he really didn't do a lot wrong. In fact, he even last emailed you less than 2 weeks ago. This appears to be between you and the merchandise firm, and they are the ones that you probably agreed to do the job with. I know it is tough out there, but as you said, if you weren't happy with the compensation you shouldn't have taken the job. There should have been no reason to expect extra compensation (APs in this case) if it was not spelled out.

I can empathize that is frustrating to see your work go for hundreds of dollars a print, and it is natural that you want to cash in on that... but those prices are because they are GNR lithographs offered at GNR shows. This has been the case since 2016. That is not to say you are bad artist or that your art isn't impressive, it is just the reality with these specific prints.

The Cleveland design is a different topic, though

 

 

From what I heard, Sara Ray was the only one who got permission to do variants only because she knew Slash.  So it was part of her agreement. I believe that was the only artwork she did for Gn'R.

And I agree with what you said. 🤘

6 hours ago, janrichmond said:

Do you have the complete transcripts? That would help clear the issue, maybe

 

Here is the complete email Geoff sent to Fernando, right after Fernando explained that he was GnR's manager when he was asked who he was. The middle part I was I shared above:

"Ah ok. My apologies. I don’t normally deal with bands directly, so I’m out of the loop on who manages who.


Well, the short version of the story is that for the last 3 months I’ve been working my ass off on GNR lithos (tees too, but that part was fine) only to find out that now I’m not receiving any artist proofs.  


I did the art for Boston, Jersey, Denver and had submissions pending for Columbus (which followed the sports card theme that fans seem to be stoked about and I have no doubt would be approved), Baltimore and was asked to do one for Atlantic City and Vegas (which was an awesome concept that tied up the sports card ones).


So with submission and approval fees I basically cleared $3k for 3 months of work.  If I had known going in that there would be no artist proofs I would have passed on the job.  In the past Global has always given me anywhere between 20-50 proofs for me to sell on my own.  All numbered as proofs and signed so there’s no confusion that these were not purchased at the venue.  This has ruined my relationship with Global and it doesn’t really reflect well on the band either because I was told by  Charles Dooher that the band wouldn’t authorize proofs anyways.


I would imagine the band wouldn’t be too keen on going out on the road if in the end each member was clearing less than flipping burgers at McDonald’s.  So I was looking to clear anywhere from $30k-60k on proofs (the Boston one is going for $500-600 already, which is nuts!) which would have helped me financially get back on track since Covid had trashed my last almost 2 years.  Now it looks like I get basically nothing while everyone else profits off of my work.


The whole thing has left a bad taste in my mouth and I now need to figure out some sort of way to recoup money for my time.  


I’ve been designing merch for the band for about 15 years now. My stuff sells (and sells out) regularly. It’s disheartening that this is happening, especially with a band that has been my absolute favorite since I was a 4th grader in 1987."

After that,  Fernando did not reply right away, so then Geoff sent this other one:

" Why contact me if you have no intentions of following up?


I know you’re not part of Global but you’re complicit in their activities. Does the band really not give a shit about the artists putting out their merch? Have they really strayed that far that they’re above that? Hey man, at least reply to me and just tell me to fuck off and that GNR doesn’t care. I can accept that. I just always thought that they were a band for artists. Growing up I thought they were the middle finger to society. But maybe they’re just a part of the machine. That’s fine, just tell me."

And there were like 5 other similar emails until Fernando replied the next day.  Fernando's entire reply is what I shared above.

If Geoff wants to share all the emails, he should go right ahead. He came here to try to gain sympathy by playing victim, while he was never mistreated.   They were even courteous him even though he said bad things about them (Gn'R and Global) on social media and here.  He saw how high one of his designs were selling for on eBay and wanted to cash on that and didn't like the answer he got.
 I don't see other GnR designers complaining on social media about not getting APs as they know what the agreement is. 

36 minutes ago, facefirst said:

Not sure who you are but those are very incomplete transcripts. But since Fernando and Global want to go this route I’m good with that. Much more to come. Stay tuned….

I shared the important stuff about your plans to make money from fans. And I shared Fernando's complete response to you.

And now it seems you are threatening the band and Global, the company who hired you?

Keep burning bridges if that's the way you think you need go about all this.
 

16 hours ago, Billbailey702 said:

Portland show was amazing with a dream come through at the end I caught axls whistle at the beginning of paradise city…….not sure how to add photo

 

 

Wow! That's awesome! 🤘

On 10/8/2019 at 5:09 AM, iftheworld said:

 

So now the locomotive video is gone. 

On 9/30/2019 at 2:51 AM, gnrjanus said:

U sure?

Yes, I was there. 🤘

23 hours ago, AlexisGolnas said:

How come everyone who is going to a show end up having a blast but the guys in the forum reading every time the same setlist is disapointed? 

Guess what? U should be dissapointed for not attending a show. Songs arent played for you to enjoy at home. If youre tired of reading the same letters of a setlist in a forum, dont bother reading.

Shows arent made for forum users.

The rest of you going to a show, have a blast 🤘 (Setlist was awesome, u crazy)

Hear, hear!!

This nails it 100%!! 🤘

2 hours ago, Tom-Ass said:

He is playing Sat July 20th in Laconia NH as well.  His singer should know that....

No. The promoter cancelled it weeks ago. They have been trying to fill the date though.