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4 hours ago, killuridols said:

What the heck would you know about what I believe or not? 

I know there are tons of fake shit out there and not for a second I have believed they are played by GNR, neither that ridiculous "closing in on you" thing you posted there... How would anyone believe that's Axl Rose singing?

Im not stupid or delusional as you are calling me and you have not demonstrated how that only piano Estranged file is "fake". All you do is saying some guy on the Internet has said he covered it and put it online.

If you believe that is enough proof to deem something as fake, then you are the delusional one. Go study the scientific method at least.

 

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LOL

Like I said the song was never on any GNR UYI demo CD in the 90s, the demo never came out until like 2003, and someone said it was them playing who had it on their channel at the time.

all those things point to it being fake.  But use your delusion.

As for  studying the scientific method if you knew anything about the scientific method you would know you have to prove it is Axl I don't have to prove it's not. That is how science works.

You are acting like a creationist with oh you need to prove god doesn't exist when people say they don't believe in god.

So prove this is Axl playing by showing this demo on a CD from the 90s with all the other UYI demos

2 hours ago, killuridols said:

Why would you believe what anyone says on the Internet?

For all we know, ALL demos, outtakes, unreleased and LEAKED material could be claimed by anyone online saying they "covered" it or recorded it or whatever since the band has not claimed them either.

 

 

 

 

LOL at delusional GNR fans with logic like this.

Keep believing that piano cover is Axl playing. 

then again some stupid GNR fans thought that song my favorite pillow was GNR LMFAO

There are tons of fake leaked so-called GNR songs, but I guess you believe all those are real too right, just because of its labeled guns n roses

so I guess this is a GNR demo too right

3 hours ago, killuridols said:

looks like you missed that one

You are just mistaken or lying.

9 minutes ago, killuridols said:

It's not fake. It was around in the 90's and I used to have it on cassette.

Sure you did LOL

I have over 70 GNR imports, and have all the demos, and this was never on any of them.

This piano cover never surfaced until 2003 because that is when the person who made it covered it.

3 hours ago, Sunset Gardner said:

Because axl did a good job doesn't make it okay to call it ac/dc.  I've seen AC/DC cover bands sound flawless too, do you consider THEM to be AC/DC?  

if they release something with axl under the AC/DC brand it will be laughable and axl will further embarrass himself like he did with fake gnr and his fake gnr solo record.  

if axl and angus want to start a side project, original in its name and music I'd support it a hundred percent... but if they try and pawn that shit as ac/dc then angus, axl and the expensive lawyers who enable them can all go fuck off.

axl did an excellent job covering bon and Brian's parts... but the idea there's going to be a third act for acdc now with axl is a funny joke.  not as funny as stephanie seymour's nanny and her little boy being "managers" but still a joke.  

 

Just name the Band Axl DC not AC DC

1 hour ago, onurbayrak03 said:

Guys i dont think SoD or Madagascar would sound good as they used to. Axl doesnt use his "raspy-ish mid range" any more. At least not for GnR songs...

35 minutes ago, Freightrain said:

Weird maybe , imposible ?? No 

Maybe you should use your ears 

Are you gonna tell me that the intro to NR in las vegas 2001 it's not the same on that Estranged demo ???

 

 

 

Axl played that on the making of the videos, so the person who faked it just added that becasue everyone always claimed that was this i love.

FFS the person who admitted faking it said it was not real.  Also listen to all the demos from that era, the estranged demo is way newer. So maybe its you that should use your ears

I would believe that "demo" closing in on you is real before that estranged "demo"

Also when did this demo first come out online was it after 2001? If so then your logic is even more faulty. Because the person faking it could have just copied the intro from the vegas show as well.

Show me a version that was posted online before that vegas show.

On 6/22/2017 at 0:49 PM, Fin said:

Album 1 (41 min)

1. Get in to the ring 

2. Shotgun Blues

3. Pretty Tied Up

4. Breakdown

5. Perfect Crime

6. So Fine

7. Double Takin' Jive

8. Coma

 

Album 2 (42 min)

1. Since I don't Have You (Cover)

2. Down On The Farm (Cover)

3. Ain't It Fun (Cover)

4. Civil War

5. Garden Of Eden

6. Bad Apples

7. Knockin' On Heavens Door (Cover)

8. Estranged

 

Album 3 (40 min)

1. Right Next Door To Hell

2. Dust n' Bones

3. Dead Horse

4. Don't Damn Me

5. 14 Years

6. Yesterdays

7. Attitude (Cover)

8. The Garden

9. Locomotive

 

Remaing UYI songs to an extra material / b-side album. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Such a terrible listing, yeah just what GNR needed more covers on UYI LOL

And you left out Nov Rain one of the bands biggests hits 

You can't be serious.

3 hours ago, Freightrain said:

What makes you think is fake ?

 

I think it's legit

 

Its fake, if it was legit it would be on some GNR import CD like all the other demos from that time period. You don't find it weird that this one demo was only found online?

People need to use their brain.

3 hours ago, Original said:

Wow- I hated 'Nu Guns' but this version (who is the drummer?  He's great) was tight.  This is great.  You (well I) forget how great Axl was even during these solo years.  What a waste.  Too bad they didn't reunite like 10 years ago.  

 

 

It was Brain.  He was amazing. Best GNR drummer.  ( I dont count Josh Freese since he never played live)

BTW Axl was awful on this, soo out of tune, his voice was shit.

2 minutes ago, Gibson_Guy87 said:

I think The Blues is about Slash to an extent. I always looked at it as Axl feeling really lost without Slash or how he felt that Slash abandoned him

I always assumed it was about Stephanie Seymour

1 minute ago, Axl_morris said:

No way. It's a watered down Estranged and we already have that in the set. No more Piano songs. 

They could rotate street of dreams and this I love.

1 minute ago, Pedrolg said:

With the current vocals SOD would lose a lot of it's appeal to me. I'd rather wait until Axl improves a bit to see both that and Madagascar.

he could just try like he does in AC DC and he would nail it.

The sad thing is Axl has it in him, he just does not try for GNR, just AC DC

5 minutes ago, soon said:

yep, sounds like we agree.  But I think Fortus should have a writing credit as well.  So the musical composition is 50% (although thats not how Guns split it on UYI) so Finck would get most of that 50% and Fortus and perhaps Bucket get smaller parts of that 50%

 

 

Lets hope I can explain this so it makes sense lol.

There are two main parts to songwriting credit, lyrics, and composition

Each part gets 50% but you can break up those 50% how ever you want.

So if GNR had a song where Axl wrote most of the lyrics, then you could  give Axl 40% for lyrics and then Izzy the other 10%

Then for the music, it could be like slash gets 30% the Duff 10% and izzy 10%.

It just depends on who wrote what but like I said they can break it down for each section how ever they want.

For example AFD they credit the full band for all of the writing credits officially. But we do have the real break down that is out there and has been shown

Just now, soon said:

Oh, I got ya.  Yes, I very much agree that Finck is the main music writer of the song.  Its a Finck song.

And that Fortus, and possibly buckethead composed sections of music as well.  

 

Yeah that is what I meant.  Axl wrote the lyrics and Finck write the main music for the song.

I just didnt want to use the term music because solos dont count for song writing credits.  that is why slash does not get credit for estranged but Axl does thank him in the liner notes.

1 minute ago, soon said:

Axl saying it was "a Finck song" does not indicate Finck wrote Axls melody.

It could be said that Fincks parts are very melodic so naturally Axls sings along to it fairly closely through out.  However Axl sings identical to the melody of Fortus part.

 

 

 I am not talking about the vocal melody, I am talking about the music melody.  

Maybe composition is the better word and not melody. 

2 minutes ago, soon said:

Finck didnt write Axls melody or the lyrics

Finck wrote the melody in better, Axl even said it was a Finck song.

1 hour ago, soon said:

If you write the music for the chorus you should get credit.  Same if Bumble is correct abut Buckethed.  Such a strange band.  Maybe there was just so much to sort through that they were honestly just lost in the shuffle?

The riff fortus created for chorus reminds me of Slashs intro riff to Garden of Eden

 

The way it works is if you write the melody for the song you get 50% credit, if you write the lyrics you get 50% credit.

Then the rest of the writing credits is optional.

1 hour ago, Sosso said:

I heard that Paul Tobias was responsible for the credits. Maybe he ignored Richard because of personal reasons? Just a guess though.

what personal issues? Paul did not want to tour, he hated it.  that is why they got Richard.

5 hours ago, Zurimor said:

Yes, he can do it for a short while, but then he needs to rest his voice or he risks to stress his vocal chords too much. Many people arent aware what a dangerous technique rasp is and I think Axl still doesncC do it exactly right.

I can confirm that Axl doesnct sound much Mickey live, his voice is really strong. Did you see any of the shows livekK

Sry for the typos,you can keep them,writing on a phone sucks.

 

 

The only reason you dont think Axl sounds like Mickey live is because of all the extra added crowd noise and people singing around it, it drowns out Axls voice.

And again Axl sings with rasp for 90% of the AC DC shows and his voice is fine.  

And dont worry about the typos, I am a terrible speller.

2 hours ago, EvanG said:

It doesn't really matter over how many albums you spread it out. It should have been one album, they should have left the filler out.

yup the filler should have been  B sides to the singles

19 minutes ago, ramsey said:

So much hate. Yes different but a disaster? Grow up ?

Take off your Axl Rose colored glasses.  Black hole sun is cringe worthy.  

8 hours ago, Zurimor said:

Full On rasp which ruined his voice in the first place, sure. It Is a good thing Axl became a bit wiser. And from all people tell which were at the concerts he doesncC sound Mickey live, so everything is fine. The concerts are for the people which attend the shows not those watching subpar streams.

 

Keep making excuses.  Axl went full on rasp for the whole AC DC tour and he was fine.

And people are in denial that claim Axl does not sound Mickey live at the shows. 

7 hours ago, IncitingChaos said:

He escapes it by having one great performance...read the comments under an AC/DC video, a majority are saying "holy shit he got his voice back, wtf" 

thats an opinion that goes back to the 2002 VMA' s that band stood no chance after that performance. 

But ACDC with Axl videos carry over a million views. You google Axl and those videos are the only one that show up on his page...so the current opinion is he's back, but like you said it's going to take one bad performance and all that goes to hell 

 

All his GNR performances are shit. GNR fans think his voice sounds great on black on sun for example when its a disaster.  Axl goes on full on mickey for GNR which is pitiful. And people love to use the bullshit excuse that AC DC songs are easier to sing.  Axl could easily go full on rasp for SCOM like he used toin the 90s but he choices to do Mickey. 

38 minutes ago, IncitingChaos said:

I remember listening to that 2012 show on the radio...it was Ozzy's boneyard or something. But it was very clear, Axl did great on the first 5 or 6 songs then fell apart...it was on par with every show that year outside of hellfest or Philly. 

As far as this show goes...the breakdown this forum will have if Steven and Izzy show up will be epic 

 

monster on pro shot 

 

stuff like this pisses me off. AC DC gets 110% Axl Rasp where as GNR gets half assed Axl Mickey Mouse