gnrlies

First time I've been back for around 10 years or more! Hi Madison - I remember you! Killer show (from what we've seen), great to see!

What is even more pathetic is how the axl-haters crawl out from under their rocks to bash Axl.......in a guns n roses forum. If you think axl is a douche or jerk then why are you here? Makes no sense. Go to the VR section or to a forum of a band that you like. We get it. You love slash. You blame axl for everything. Now go support a band that you like!

Theres a difference between axl bashing, and making fair comment on ridiculous actions. If axl comes on stage three hours late of course some people are going to say that it wasn't cool, just as we will say this isn't cool. Presumedly we are all here because we like GNR. GNR isn't the axl rose project. Its a bunch of guys that released appetite in 87 and somehow morphed into what it is today. And it is possible to separate axl as a musician / performer and axl as a person. As such it is entirely possible to be objective about axl whilst still enjoying GNR's music.

If axl is 'bashed' as you suggest, it's only because objective people make comments about his actions. The fact that it comes from his fans means that he's worn out a lot of patience over the years. Most of us, and yes even the 'bashers', will stick up for axl whenever we can, but sometimes it is impossible to do so without looking like a fool.

ahh jesus...

Axl can do some great things when it comes to music. I love GNR, but it has to be said that he is the biggest dickhead the world has ever seen. I don't give a shit how many albums he's sold, I couldn't care less how many people on this forum will back him up - but man to man, Axl - your a fucking loser. Get over yourself. I'll still come and see you in concert, and listen to your music, but for fuck sake, grow up. I know you've had a tough life, but man your almost 50. Most people your age have gotten past any demons they had when they were 12, you clearly haven't. Its disappointing that no-one around you has the balls to tell you how it really is (or perhaps whats worse is that you ignore those who do ). Sure you have your millions, you have your legacy, but when you die, no-ones gonna love you. I don't mean love you for your music, I mean love you for you. No-one loves you for you.

To all those ass lickers on this forum who stick up for Axl - get a life. Seriously. Stop defending him just in case he comes online and see's your posts. What do you think he's going to do? Invite you to his castle in Malibu to thank you for your words? Seriously, stop being losers. See things for how they really are and stop pretending that Axl deserves the benefit of the doubt, because if it smells like shit, it probably is.

Whether Axl is technically right or not is besides the point. How bitter must you be to stipulate that a game can only contain a song if it does not contain the involvement of the guy who wrote the song, or his subsequent works. How many years is it? 15? If you had your head out of your arsehole you could have started a family, or done something meaningful with your life such that you would realise that none of this is important. Then perhaps you would get over yourself and stop dragging other people down with you.

I don't know you, maybe I got you wrong. But I doubt it.

I think you may have missed the point. It's not about putting down the old GnR, it's about establishing the image of GnR in its current state, moving his business forward, and to do that you want the focus to be on that current state. Focus on the old GnR is counterproductive to your own business plan. But regardless, when you agree that Y will be done and Y needs to be done to align with your own business plan, and if not Y then no thank you to the deal, and then behind your back X is done how do you not respond to that? The suit's focus is not Slash, Activision's misrepresentation focused on Slash and Axl's suit is responding.

What the fuck you on man? Missed the point? There is no point. Axl should move on and get over it.

By the way all of you peddling the whole new gnr business plan argument are full of shit. There are two bands. GNR and New GNR. Despite the fact they have the same name, no-one confuses the two. In anycase, confusion only works in Axl's favour as people might believe that the new one is in fact the old one (which is the more successfull, popular, and valuable of the two bands).

ahh jesus...

Axl can do some great things when it comes to music. I love GNR, but it has to be said that he is the biggest dickhead the world has ever seen. I don't give a shit how many albums he's sold, I couldn't care less how many people on this forum will back him up - but man to man, Axl - your a fucking loser. Get over yourself. I'll still come and see you in concert, and listen to your music, but for fuck sake, grow up. I know you've had a tough life, but man your almost 50. Most people your age have gotten past any demons they had when they were 12, you clearly haven't. Its disappointing that no-one around you has the balls to tell you how it really is (or perhaps whats worse is that you ignore those who do ). Sure you have your millions, you have your legacy, but when you die, no-ones gonna love you. I don't mean love you for your music, I mean love you for you. No-one loves you for you.

To all those ass lickers on this forum who stick up for Axl - get a life. Seriously. Stop defending him just in case he comes online and see's your posts. What do you think he's going to do? Invite you to his castle in Malibu to thank you for your words? Seriously, stop being losers. See things for how they really are and stop pretending that Axl deserves the benefit of the doubt, because if it smells like shit, it probably is.

Whether Axl is technically right or not is besides the point. How bitter must you be to stipulate that a game can only contain a song if it does not contain the involvement of the guy who wrote the song, or his subsequent works. How many years is it? 15? If you had your head out of your arsehole you could have started a family, or done something meaningful with your life such that you would realise that none of this is important. Then perhaps you would get over yourself and stop dragging other people down with you.

I don't know you, maybe I got you wrong. But I doubt it.

You know I think that ever since Axl has been writing on these forums a lot of people have suddenly changing the way they act. Its nice to be courteous and show respect to the man who brought us what we are all here for, but it is a little bit absurd to delete / lock posts simply because someone is choosing to give an opinion that Axl may not necessarily like / agree with.

I dont really know, but I'm gonna take a guess that the last thing Axl wants is for us to all become a bunch of kiss ass motherfuckers. Hes taken the opportunity to give his side of the story, and you can take it or leave it. Not everyone is going to digest it in the same way (hence this thread).

As for 'does this post deseve its own thread' - well hes just expressing an opinion thats no less relevant than 90% of the other useless threads. Just because it doesn't correspond to your own views doesn't make it an evil thread.

YeAH

Me and high voltage (and his mates) got to go backstage!

We went because vanessa let us in! Shes so nice! We waved to Beta, and she came over to us during the gig and said hello. She was so nice. Very motherly, and shook our hands and everything.

Vanessa let us into the green room, where we met robin, dizzy, ron, frank, some dudes from sebastians band. We further got asked into sebastians dressing room, but soon realised that axl and seb had long gone. So we left. Nonetheless it was a cool experience!

Beta is so nice! Plus free grog! (although I had to spend $50 on a cab ride home so not so free afterall, but nonetheless worth it!

Hey everyone....

Got into the after party - sweet as!

high voltage! ROCK ON!

Hey i will meet up with people lol!

I will be there (at acer arena) fairly earlyish maybe 12

I will have a GNR shirt on thatr is from the new tour (the one I got in oakland). Look at my avatar to recognise me! lol

Hey think about you....

Give me a call on 0403 965 846 if you are after a ticket. I may be able to sell you a sunday ticket face value. My girlfriend is having second thoughts, (given the cost)...

Just offering in case. I have gold GA. $155 (inc booking fee)

OMGFS#%$$%%$

This is fu-cn awesome!

I was so dissapointed when I only saw them once on my trip to the US last year.... Now I can rectify that figure!

Only problem is that its right in the middle of my exam period!

I will def see them more than once, just depends on whether I go to melbourne, brisbane, adelaide or perth!

SWEETCAKES! MORE DEBT TO REPAY!

i dont know why its necessary to bag her out. Shes paying a homage to GNR and Axl... I mean afterall she could have sung livin on a prayer - but she has taste

How good was that!

Axl Arriving fashionably late (12:30) brings out old 'gak' bandmate Lars Ulrich!!!

Anyone there?

axl arived at 12:04 a.m. exactly, nice job starting a thread with incorrect info

I hope you are joking

Lars didn't bring out his danish flag...

No-one took photos because security was so tight.

Even mobile phone cameras - the security guards were like jumping down your throat. They didn't even have press photographers.

Im sure someone snuck in a photo though....

How good was that!

Axl Arriving fashionably late (12:30) brings out old 'gak' bandmate Lars Ulrich!!!

Anyone there?

This video is why GNR are unmentionably better

Motley crue are like a parody of themselves

No...

Del doesn't need to say sorry

Cos del is right in everything he said

Screw that!~

GNR dont need some wankathon lead guitarist virtuoso who really should be a solo artist like the other brilliant guitarists out there....

It needs a rock guitarist who fits the band - AKA RON!

what do ppl mean by the "cha"

Who is going to this show?????

Im excited! Id love to meet up with some forum members, specially considering Im an out of towner!

Im not in any camp.....

Im here because im a fan of the old band. That means that I support both axl in his work with the new GNR, as well as Slash, Duff, and Matt with VR.

Id love to see the old band back together, but we know that is not going to happen so we have to be pragmatic and support two bands!

I know enough about Chinese Democracy and the NEw GNR to know that Im gonna like it. All of the new songs I like with a few exceptions which probably wont even make the final cut. Since buckethead left, I have been able to embrace this band a little more wholeheartedly. Buckethead kind of made them seem like a bit of a joke.

They are back and axl is cooler than he was in 2002, he can sing better than 2002, and some of those songs like better and there was a time are amazing. It wont be a failure. If it doesn't sell well, I dont care - cos I already know its gonna be good.

Likewise velvet revolver were also cool, and I look forward to their new album. So in away, aside from the fact that theyve not done it together, were kinda gonna have three albums to enjoy, and hopefully more.

I used to be cynical about the whole new gnr thing, and I guess in some ways I am, but I guess a true testament to my feelings now is that I am absolutely wetting my panties over the fact that I am gonna see them for the first time in december. Thats enough for me to say that I gotta stop being hypocritical and get over it - and enjoy axl rose for the legend he is....

Why would you do that... they're going to tour here next year dude!

Well GNR arent exactly reliable - especially considering the only real evidence to go by came from a guy who isn't even in GNR.

I was planning to go overseas anyway, so the only difference is the timing and some of the locations (i.e. I wouldn't even have been able to point to fresno on a map!)

Nonetheless I hope they tour Australia, cos then I can see them there as well!

Ah get over it....

Boohoo you have to wait a couple of months.... Some people will never have the opportunity to see them play. Im going to be fortunate enough to be flying around the world to see them. Id never have a chance otherwise. Quit complaining.

If you are getting so upset about them delaying it by a few months then something is seriously wrong with your perspective on things.

Sure it sucks, but theres no need to get so upset about it. Take it in your stride.

If you are going to decide NOT to go, then obviously you are not big enough of a fan as a true fan would do anything to see them - including re-arranging work, and other commitments - heck they are playing a whole stack of dates in california.

That would be the maddest summer ever....

Im gonna see em twice in the states, then I come home, just in time for BDO, and then see them all around the country....

Sweeeeet

Hey there everyone

I will be coming to fresno to see GNR from Australia, so I need some local advice.

Ive seen that the savemart events center is close to the airport (im flying in). Can anyone recomend any accomadation (thats cheap) thats close by?

Also, another question.

On the 12th, GNR arent playing a show, so I can either chose to spend a day in fresno, or a day in portland.

Ive noticed that Fresno is near yosemite national park. Can it be done on a day trip? It looks very beautifull and I would love to see it if there are ample tours available (i wont have a car or anything).

Thanks!

I hope to see you all there!

I'll be coming to that show! (asuming I can get my hand on tickets)

I have two questions to ask howevor...

1 - I will have the 12th off between fresno (which im also gonna go to), and I will want to occupy my time.... I was thinking portland would be more exciting to stay, but need to know if theres anything cool to do in portland. I am from Australia (im comin across to see GNR) and i've geographically seen that mt st helens is nearish. Is it worth checking out? if so can it be done in a day? The alternative is spending a day in fresno and getting to yosemite national park (which is equally as attractive atm). Its all down to logistics. But then again GNR might announce a second show in either portland or fresno in which case my decision would be made.

2 - I need accomadation in portland. I want somewhere about half way between the airport and the venue. Cheapest is best. Any recomendations? Is anyone else travelling and want to share accomadation? If locals could recomend that'd be great!

they just said major concert announcement