blake-a-mania Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 I was just wondering how many of you out there think that Chinese Democracy will have the same effect that Appetite for Destruction had on rock more then 15 years ago? If you think about it, so-called rock today is going in a similiar direction that it was in the late 80's. Now I know, today's bands aren't sporting spandex or buying Aqua-Net in bulk, but to me the music is drifting aimlessly, bands have no today have no sunstance, no soul. Name one band today since Nirvana (whom makes me cringe)well maybe Velvet Revolver, that will stand the test of time, like Zeppeling, The Stones, GN'R, or Metallica? I think and pray that Axl and GN'R will step up and and reshake the whole world like they did so many years ago. Velvet Revolver is the BEST rock has to offer right now. rock1strange i'm sure that in bands that stand the test of time Iron Maiden should be up there somewhere and anyway we could could have like a rock revolution this year Chinese Democracy New Iron Maiden album :xmasssanta: Blaze Album and DVD Bruce Dickinson DVD it just gets better2006 is the new 1986 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiLLy"The Kid" Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 (edited) yeah, they will SAVE for shure a COMPLEX ROCK!!! Edited March 10, 2006 by WiLLy"The Kid" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimb0 Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 No, if anything they'll save the genre you call industrial electronic rock with the incorporation of beautiful piano ballads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukin Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 (edited) and anyway we could could have like a rock revolution this year Chinese Democracy New Iron Maiden album :xmasssanta: Blaze Album and DVD Bruce Dickinson DVD it just gets better2006 is the new 1986Yeah it´s gonna be a cool year! But don´t forget the following releases too:* Peeping Tom (the new Mike Patton project, also LOOOOOONGtime-awaited)* Pearl Jam* ToolAnd hopefull Danzig will release his "Black Aria 2" before this years ends! Edited March 10, 2006 by Lukin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Paul Slinger Posted March 11, 2006 Author Share Posted March 11, 2006 The idea that GNR "saved" rock n' roll in the 1980s is also up to debate. While I love the line in Blender's article on the top 50 Rawk bands (too lazy to look it up, went like: "Nirvana and grunge didn't kill the hair bands, Guns N' Roses did"), I still think that it was Nirvana and Pearl Jam that really brought on a shift in pop culture. GNR was seen far above their peers (Warrant, Poison, Motley Crue) and rightfully so; but did they do anything musically that had never been done before? Not really... They were just able to write some bad ass blues-based hard rock songs that had melodies as addictive as what Steven Adler's been using to kill "the pain." That doesn't mean they're not my favourite band (they are), but I think it's a little naive to reference GNR as the saviours of Rock N' Roll. Don't forget that at the time there were still other bands making huge waves in pop/rock at the time. U2 had released "Joshua Tree," Aerosmith was back on tour, Metallica was at the top of its game all in the late 80s. That said, GNR brought an attitude and some danger that had been missed since the late 70s. They were real, raw and completely unforgettable as soon as you heard the openning riff of Welcome to the Jungle. They made a definite impact and helped keep rock's legacy alive. And I think that's where Axl and current company have their best chance of making another impact. What's needed in music today is catchy songs that people can get into. You can dislike the bands, but Coldplay, the Killers, and even James Blunt have done extremely well writing simple but catchy songs. I'm not suggesting that this is where GNR needs to go, but if they can recapture what they once did with songs like Sweet Child and Paradise City, they'll do very well. Will they save rock n' roll; I personally don't think it needs saving. There's plenty of other bands who are doing amazing stuff out there. It's not like it's the bottom of the 9th, two outs, bases loaded and Axl's up to the plate needing a grand slam to bring back some lost glory of what rock once was. There will always be great rock bands out there, it's just whether the music industry wants to promote them. And to those who think that Axl's going to be the force that he once was back in the late 80s/early 90s, it's time to be realistic. Back then Axl was a young 26-30 hellraiser, he gave something to the kids (myself at the time) to listen to and tell their parents to fuck off. You're not going to have the same 13-18 year olds listening to a man who's as old as their parents wanting to rebel alongside their parents. But hey, that's just my take. I hope Axl proves me wrong 'cause it would be awesome to see.You make a very good point, There were very good bands like whom you mentioned that made very good albums the same time GN'R camei into play, I guess I'm going in the direction that in that period of time, the biggest music to hit the world was that from the Sunset Strip (The LA scene was huge at that point). And the bands that roamed the strip were trying everything to be noticed for finacial gains or whatever and not really focusing on the music, until gn'r came into play, then everyone tried playing catchup. Of courses its just my opinion.And when VR came to my state in Aug 2005, tickets were sold out within an hour. I saw them live, and it was the best concert I've seen in my life. The whole crew was nomore then 5 ft from me, and it was unbelieveable. But I must admit the whole time I tried picturing that Axl was leading the way on stage, but Scott is no slouch.I was just wondering how many of you out there think that Chinese Democracy will have the same effect that Appetite for Destruction had on rock more then 15 years ago? If you think about it, so-called rock today is going in a similiar direction that it was in the late 80's. Now I know, today's bands aren't sporting spandex or buying Aqua-Net in bulk, but to me the music is drifting aimlessly, bands have no today have no sunstance, no soul. Name one band today since Nirvana (whom makes me cringe)well maybe Velvet Revolver, that will stand the test of time, like Zeppeling, The Stones, GN'R, or Metallica? I think and pray that Axl and GN'R will step up and and reshake the whole world like they did so many years ago. Velvet Revolver is the BEST rock has to offer right now. rock1strange i'm sure that in bands that stand the test of time Iron Maiden should be up there somewhere and anyway we could could have like a rock revolution this year Chinese Democracy New Iron Maiden album :xmasssanta: Blaze Album and DVD Bruce Dickinson DVD it just gets better2006 is the new 1986Iron Maiden goes w/o saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucketslash Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 and anyway we could could have like a rock revolution this year Chinese Democracy New Iron Maiden album :xmasssanta: Blaze Album and DVD Bruce Dickinson DVD it just gets better2006 is the new 1986Yeah it´s gonna be a cool year! But don´t forget the following releases too:* Peeping Tom (the new Mike Patton project, also LOOOOOONGtime-awaited)* Pearl Jam* ToolAnd hopefull Danzig will release his "Black Aria 2" before this years ends! NEW AUDIOSLAVE,DUH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisjonas Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 and Queensryche's Operation: Mindcrime II is coming out this year, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokingarthur Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 This is stupid. Kroq 106.7 in LA actually has IRS listed in the Guns N Roses section of requests.http://www.kroq.com/request/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde and Cranston Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Guns will FINALLY come out with Chinese Democracy and then we'll have three great bands to root for: Guns N' Fuckin Roses, Motley Crue, and Metalica. Velvet Revolver can come along to as long as Scott can keep his mouth shut. Crash Diet, Bring It Back Home, Sentimental Movie, Just Another Sunday, It Tastes Good, Don't It?, Jumping Jack Flash, and Heartbreak Hotel need to be on the Chinese Democracy album. Yeah that's right, Clyde and Cranston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisjonas Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Guns will FINALLY come out with Chinese Democracy and then we'll have three great bands to root for: Guns N' Fuckin Roses, Motley Crue, and Metalica. Velvet Revolver can come along to as long as Scott can keep his mouth shut. Crash Diet, Bring It Back Home, Sentimental Movie, Just Another Sunday, It Tastes Good, Don't It?, Jumping Jack Flash, and Heartbreak Hotel need to be on the Chinese Democracy album. Yeah that's right, Clyde and Cranstonapparently, you're a new fan.all those songs are from the Illusion era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elsidor Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Well, Velvet Revolver canselled part of their tour last summer, including their gig in Norway.(wich Matt Sorum promised to a norwegian newspaper would never happend with this serious band in 2004.)there was not a riot, no, maybe because most people diddnt care...really? i bet they cancelled the gig b4 everyone had arrived at the show and purchased t-shirts, programs, burgers, beers etc etc? come on use your brainno axls band can't save rock, as they dont play rock n roll Guns will FINALLY come out with Chinese Democracy and then we'll have three great bands to root for: Guns N' Fuckin Roses, Motley Crue, and Metalica. Velvet Revolver can come along to as long as Scott can keep his mouth shut. Crash Diet, Bring It Back Home, Sentimental Movie, Just Another Sunday, It Tastes Good, Don't It?, Jumping Jack Flash, and Heartbreak Hotel need to be on the Chinese Democracy album. Yeah that's right, Clyde and Cranstonapparently, you're a new fan.all those songs are from the Illusion era.a new fan and an idiot, as motley crue are just plain shit, and metallica sold out when they released the 'black' album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakk Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 That is B.S elsidor!!!! Did Pink Floyd and Queen not play rock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eschman Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Well, Velvet Revolver canselled part of their tour last summer, including their gig in Norway.(wich Matt Sorum promised to a norwegian newspaper would never happend with this serious band in 2004.)there was not a riot, no, maybe because most people diddnt care...really? i bet they cancelled the gig b4 everyone had arrived at the show and purchased t-shirts, programs, burgers, beers etc etc? come on use your brainno axls band can't save rock, as they dont play rock n roll Guns will FINALLY come out with Chinese Democracy and then we'll have three great bands to root for: Guns N' Fuckin Roses, Motley Crue, and Metalica. Velvet Revolver can come along to as long as Scott can keep his mouth shut. Crash Diet, Bring It Back Home, Sentimental Movie, Just Another Sunday, It Tastes Good, Don't It?, Jumping Jack Flash, and Heartbreak Hotel need to be on the Chinese Democracy album. Yeah that's right, Clyde and Cranstonapparently, you're a new fan.all those songs are from the Illusion era.a new fan and an idiot, as motley crue are just plain shit, and metallica sold out when they released the 'black' albumI think they sold their artistic souls to the devil with the Black album. It was good, but afterwards, Lucifer slowly drained their abilities away. Notice there were a few good songs on Load, maybe one on Reload, then they realized they sucked and tried to do covers and redo their old good stuff to sqeeze out a bit more money (though Napster tried to get in the way of that ) and then there was St. Anger. Pee-eww Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slashtacular Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 I think it'll be big. Huge. Purely because of the years of pent up anticipation in everyone.But will it be definative like Appetite? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetness Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Too early to tell. If he wants to change the face of Rock N' Roll once again, hes going to need a great lineup to back him up. Sorry, but the current lineup is far less than great, it just is. But thats only my speculation, we'll have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuzmo Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 No I don't believe its gonna save rock with the Linkin Park drum beats and Industrial shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobbeltvedt Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 im 15 and my parents think Axl is a horrible role model and dont want me on these forums. so that basically kills your theory...Kill you parents then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axl_rose_gnr Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJM Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Can New GnR save the Rock N' Roll world of today?No.Can they make a Huuuge impact?Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJM Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Can New GnR save the Rock N' Roll world of today?No.Can they make a Huuuge impact?Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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