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  1. Unofficial updates on 2020 tour

    This is just Sheffield arena I think, which hardly has any shows booked since they opened one down the road in Leeds and has long been mooted for closure as it's a waste of taxpayers money (owned by the council) They have been putting shows on sale for spring next year still in the UK so there must be some hope...
  2. Unofficial updates on 2020 tour

    People would be pissed off if they just started drip feeding dates and assuming their city was off. So they need to do it together, there may be some cities they don't get back to. Or have to do a venue change. It's a shit situation but it's hardly the bands fault. It's down to the booking agent and Promoter to sort it. It was interesting though, the guy from The Killers said their booking agent got straight onto this in March and pushed to get them first hold on all the same venues on their preferred dates straight away so they didn't lose out. They're not the only ones who haven't announced. Billie Eilish has a massive tour on hold, Elton John has dates to be announced and there will be others. I have seen a few angry moaning at TM that their city was cancelled from the re-scheduled dates for other acts. I guess sales/availability related. LN have also given everybody a 20% haircut on their guarantees according to Billboard I think it was. So probably having to negotiate stuff like that as well. I can't excuse them refusing to refund people though until the dates are announced
  3. Unofficial updates on 2020 tour

    They aren't involved in Hyde Park. It is run by the fiercest rivals after they lost a heated bidding war for the rights for the concerts there. They sell a portion of the tickets. The same way they do for pretty much every event in the UK. Are Live Nation involved in Manchester United or does one of their thousands of companies just handle their ticket software? They don't run Hyde Park and it is a stretch to say they are "involved" The thread you've dragged up on efestivals is an old one, they did initially say you couldn't have a refund for RESCHEDULED gigs, not cancelled ones but if you pushed you got one. They relented shortly afterwards and the final post on there indeed says they got their refund off Ticketmaster but not off Eventim. Did you even read it? There is not one mention of Hyde Park on that thread so I've really no idea what you're on about. Hyde Park refunds are full or you can transfer for Pearl Jam and Duran Duran I think it is who have re-scheduled for next year. Everything else is a full refund and you could request that weeks ago. Bookings I've received a refund on from Ticketmaster: MLB London - full refund including every fee Liam Gallagher Heaton Park. Less £1 "transaction fee". My friends lost £8 a ticket on Seetickets though. Queen - Rescheduled and I requested a full refund and got one. Parklife - Missus booked for this and got a full refund. That took a while though. They are doing full refunds. You can cry all you want that they're not but show me something conclusive that isn't just made up in your mind based on your anti LN/TM narrative that shows they aren't. Ticketmaster refunds have been FULL refunds for a long time now, 5 years + but they do keep postage which is called a "transaction fee" but I'm not going to bitch about losing a couple of quid, the ticket price and booking fee comes back. Prove to me it doesn't. Also, what is your source for the "£7000,000 "(sic) profit per night off Hyde Park? You talk about other people not providing sources but you do exactly the same.
  4. Unofficial updates on 2020 tour

    They don't keep booking fees on UK events. That is a fact. And your quote there says "may be non-refundable". They do keep postage or a "transaction charge of a few ££ in the UK. Hyde Park is not promoted by LN anymore. Ticketmaster are an appointed agent to sell tickets. Guess what, they are doing full refunds! I know because I booked to go to a show there. And I would say Eventim, Seetickets and Gigantic refusing to refund booking fees DOES make them cowboy outfits compared to TM and AXS who do refund service charges To say TM and LN are keeping booking fees is just 100% wrong and you don't have a clue, sorry There is the link to the article outlying LN cash position https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/michael-rapino-talks-cost-cutting-fan-less-concerts-and-pressing-pause-on-live-nations-big-mexico-deal/ Live Nation US ticket policy. Full refund or 150% credit https://www.livenationentertainment.com/ticketrefund/
  5. Unofficial updates on 2020 tour

    Given they are listed on the stock market their cash position is in the public domain. They are burning $150M a month which appears to give them around 12 months on current cash reserves. They need to be able to sell tickets as normal and with confidence basically before Christmas. They do not keep money from booking fees! Some smaller agents may do this but not TM or AXS. Money is going back in full less postage or a small transaction charge. They have a big refund page laying out all the options on their website. Keep your ticket, get a credit of 150% if you want to cancel but not get a cash refund or get a full cash refund. They are hurting. As for the Hyde Park shows, I have no idea what you're talking about. LN haven't been involved in Hyde Park for 7 years. In the UK both AXS and TM give full refunds with no questions asked, you might lose a couple of ££ on a transaction fee but the ticket price and bulk of the charges are repaid in full by those companies. Other cowboy outfits like Eventim keep the booking fees, yes.
  6. Unofficial updates on 2020 tour

    There was certainly a lot of pent up demand in China for entertainment as Disney sold out for its reopening. That said, the tickets are expensive enough and the economy will take a serious hit. There will also be a lot of competition, you've got all the re-scheduled tours then there will be plenty who were planning to tour 2021 anyway. I read the other day that LN and AEG are actually pushing hard to reduce the fees and splits already agreed for all these shows being re-scheduled for next year, which might suggest they expect less demand and a tougher climate, not a better one.
  7. Unofficial updates on 2020 tour

    I don't think anybody thinks it's happening or has done since about March. That said, the lack of information is truly astounding. They appear to be the last act before about July playing the UK who haven't cancelled/postponed with or without new dates
  8. The still selling tickets is probably down to logistics. IE massively reduced workforce and a lifetimes worth of affected events being announced in a few weeks. The official announcement is probably a coordinated one for the whole tour
  9. Don't know anything about the rest of the tour, London is off though. I've no idea why Tm are selling tickets still. They have now paid out (which is not the same as refunded, done by a third party) the ticket exchange sellers which only happens when it's cancelled or the event has taken place. Source : Someone at Tm
  10. A little birdie has told me the plug was pulled today. It is fully cancelled, not rescheduled.
  11. I actually think they'll find it very hard to re-schedule the UK dates at Spurs. Nobody knows what will happen with the football season or when the next one will start and end. If they move the venue, for sure they can't get out of that. TM are far from the only ones doing this. Stubhub won't even give you a refund if an event is cancelled now. Voucher only. They are on the ropes it appears as they won't pay sellers for events that actually happened either. And Airlines are also doing what they can not to pay out and forcing vouchers onto people. I guess the authorities aren't really looking right now and there will be some leniency even if they ever do. Covid 19 innit, fuck em all! It's point 11.3 on ticketmaster UK purchase policy. Screen grab it before it's changed. You will win your charge back then for sure
  12. Just so you know, Ticketmaster UK appear to have reneged on their own terms and stopped refunding rescheduled events So if you end up with a new date in 2021, don't be surprised if they tell you that you can re-sell the tickets on their ticket exchange but can't have a refund. You also can't sell tickets on their exchange if you live outside the UK
  13. Europe 2020 Tour Announced

    Well I suppose even a broken clock is right twice a day
  14. Europe 2020 Tour Announced

    They've moved the gigs from Bellahouston to Glasgow Green due to flooding. I'm going to guess that's the reason for the delay in announcing - uncertainty over the venue. Green Day play 24th June so think that ties in nicely. They've said they've moved 3 scheduled gigs from Bellahouston but only Green Day was announced so there's two more to come.
  15. Europe 2020 Tour Announced

    I'm going to guess they're getting announced for Glasgow Green very soon