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check out Leadbelly, Charley Patton, Big Bill Broonzy, my man John Lee Hooker, Woody Guthrie (kinda folk but..)...Blind Lemon Jefferson.

cuz i think they kick fuckin ass, Darby Crash is like the coolest lead singer ever...

rip them down

hold me up

tell em that

im ur gun

pull my trigger

im bigger thaaaaaaaaaan

anyone, anyway, anyhow...whoever buys this shit...is a fuckin jerk, they're playin' it all wrong, drums r too fast, bass is to slow..they're makin the endin' too long, ahhh, i quit.

SPRING IS HERE AGAIN, REPRODUCTIVE GLANDS...

ain't even no contest here, Nirvana..

JOHNNY THUNDERS

"punk rock should mean freedom, liking and accepting whatever u want, playing whatever u want, as sloppy as u want, as long as its good and it has passion"

Kurdt Kobain, 1992

i agree with him

ignition was cool, smash was cool...thats about it

cool man, if thats what ur into

i know they didn't sound the same same, but...ok, basically, to me...to be progressive, or considered progressive...u gotta change ur entire format...not just add to it, adding to it can be good, if u add a LOT...but most of what u consider progression from these bands i don't consider anything more than vague tinkering with the available format...it seems to be a ummm...kinda like a checkpoint in the evolutionary progression of "great" rock bands...blues influence, jazz influence etc, like it's like a requirement, i dont see that as progression at all. orignal is when u listen to it and it sounds like nothing before or since and im sorry, that can't be said for sabbath...there were people like sabbath before them...TONS of em, all sabbath was make the sound heavier...that to me doesn't really count for much, it amounts to turning the volume up really lol i agree, some of their shit is cool fun and intense music but i certainly wouldn't call them great my any means. i think true greatness in art is almost always the least recognised. Nirvana were slaves to MTV and their record company? Kurt had more record company fusses over the sound of their music than most artists on the planet, so i hardly think thats relevant although i do agree they did um...i dunno, they did give a lotta slack. but nirvana built their fanbase the old fashioned way. even before they had their major record label signing they were the shit...they were the hot american band, they were known internationally...true, MTV made them into stars but not much more than that. as far as punk not being orignal, i umm...lol i dunno WHAT to say to that lol i think u kinda misinterpret which era was punk and which was just a bunch of bandwagon jumpers

The Vaselines

Richard Hell & The Voidoids

Public Image Limited

The Meat Puppets

these bands were orignal...painfully so...unlike anything all the pages and plants and mercurys and townshends could even dream of being.

this ain't a diss to ur taste cuz i truly respect ur knowledge of music, it's further reaching than mine in like...ur chosen type of music but...i dunno, i disagree with u man, if u'd...i dunno, ok...do me this favour... check out the albums Second Edition and Flowers Of Romance...see if u can download em from somewhere, i promise u will not have heard anything like em...ever.

and as far as blues influence, all rock n roll has that...in fact, the blues is half of the genre...

those um, bands seem to slip into a more...suffocating stereotype than nirvana...i think thats half of it, i might've even liked em, who knows, if i hadn't've gotten into punk rock as deep as i did. they always just came across as phoney, i dunno why. they look like, the standard, y'know? the establishment, the immortal yardstick by which all is judged. i know, i really do have a kind of a stuck up punk rock attitude in a way (or it must seem like i do) but these bands really always just got on my tits and came across as...just not...challenging anything, music for musics sake is good but...i like my music to offer something sometimes a little more than a faked out subvertive attiitude. they're so...comfortable with their success and their album after album all pretty much sounding the same which isn't a bad thing as such (i like the ramones, they sounded the same their whole career) but it seems to me, when bands reach the levels of success that these guys have they kinda just...fade. their passion, cuz they're not hungry anymore. a band is good when they got somethin to prove. as far as nirvana go...it's about passion, u can hear it in the guys voice, and musically...shit, i ju...i can't even come close to explainin' that shit...like, ok...the difference between flat out musical talent...and perfecting the basics is this....flat out musical talent u can get good with, if ur truly talented u can get excellent with...but the basic stuff, anyone can learn to be excellent at...couple that with an ear for a good catchy tune and ur really somewhere. plus, lyrically...nirvana were really sayin something...i just, i dunno, i can't swallow mainstream bands, ok...not mainstream but like the um, the rock n roll "take it for granted, these guys r great" type bands, u know what i mean? i just...i can't handle that shit, thats not good enough for me, i need whys answered and out of all those bands, truly speakin, i don't see greatness...i talented mediocrity. talented as in like, good at the mechanics of it, good guitar players, good drummers, good vocals, in like, a textbook sense...but beyond that these bands r just relics, top ten fodder...granted same could be said for nirvana and time has done them no fuckin favours at all but uhm, shit...these other bands just really put me off man, especially how they all turn out, it's sad to watch man...more than anything, to be really honest with you...i like noise...loud annoying noise, cool noise, funky noise, spooky noise soft noise...something thats got something a little odd to it to spark my interest, i can't...explain it any better than that. i like music that is different, a little out of the ordinary, something i listen to that just makes me go "what in the fuck was that shit?" and none of those bands provoke that reaction, all they provoke is a moderate foot-tap and like "oh, cool, thats a good tune" but a good tune is a good tune, theres nothing to it, theres no more than can be said about it, but a god awful screeching tuneless racket, now thats a different thing...cuz, theres somethin there to figure out. cuz theres a logic to everything, basically i like bands that go someway to deconstructing legends, myths etc...not just become them.

this ain't even fair, bob dylan has a shitload more output than Axl

He is my god. period.

He is the greatest rapper of all time, no one will ever come close, he even had deep parts in tracks like "How do you want it", he had political ambitions, he cared for all his fellow black americans, he was so intelligent...

the fact that intelligent rap can be succesful died with him back in 96.

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greatest rapper of all time i agree with, but on an MC level, on a Biggie, Eminem, Big Daddy Kane level, a battle rap freestyle level, im sorry to say he's not the greatest...not even close. but i guess, judging him is more based on umm....the all around thing rather than one facet of being a rapper.

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MC wise, storytelling wise, i think there are only a few rapper (Nas, ImmTech...) who have the same level as Pac, but no one is better. battle rap freestyle? yeah maybe, i don't care about that, i think freestyle battling without a reason is useless, no one needs that, i find that very childish.

but you're right, 2Pac is judged by his charisma, by his presence, by his intelligence, by his acting.

he was a hero, an idol for the black americans, no other black besides Malcolm X, MLK and Ali had this status.

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Stokely Carmichael, Eldrige Cleaver, Nelson Mandela, Louis Farrakhan? and uh, hip hop is predicated on battle rhymin' it's difficult to like hip hop without it, its a very competitive genre and there has to be like, a best y'know? childish isn't necessarily a bad thing either. storytellingwise, Slick Rick is better than just about all of them, Tupacs intense talent wasn't even as a storyteller as such although he was very VERY good at it. i prefer Tupac's more grimy gangsta shit...like We Ain't Hard To Find, When I Get Free (r u still down version), Hit Em Up, All Eyez On Me, Heavy In Da Game etc tons of people had that status though of being idols for black america, look at Melvin Van Peebles, Richard Roundtree, James Brown, Otis Redding...americas black expirence reaches a LOT further than Ali, Brother Malcolm and MLK.

They should be the biggest band in the world. Yield and Vs are the two best albums. they've got such a great, varied catalogue Ed vedder is also one of the best vocalists in the business, who is really consistent live. My favourite band.

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they are to nirvana what the clash were to the sex pistols...

Argh, i love all those bands (except Nirvana)

But Floyd comes a clear first, but they all rock 

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i hate all of those bands except nirvana LOL i know this sounds like being a prick on purpose but i seriously do, im sure u've never heard a good word from me on any of those bands but...yeah, so nirvana win...but, flat out, the sex pistols should be in that list...in fact, they should BE that list...

He is my god. period.

He is the greatest rapper of all time, no one will ever come close, he even had deep parts in tracks like "How do you want it", he had political ambitions, he cared for all his fellow black americans, he was so intelligent...

the fact that intelligent rap can be succesful died with him back in 96.

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greatest rapper of all time i agree with, but on an MC level, on a Biggie, Eminem, Big Daddy Kane level, a battle rap freestyle level, im sorry to say he's not the greatest...not even close. but i guess, judging him is more based on umm....the all around thing rather than one facet of being a rapper.

doesn't everything?

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u got the best music taste on the planet!!!, i swear to God u stole my taste!!!

(buzzcocks)

im sooo maad, im bad...like jesse james!!! john lee hooker dude has got some taste

i think hip hop gets too much of a hard time these days...

black person black person black person black person black person black person PLEASE!

Changes...California Love

I like those songs. I wouldn't buy an album though as rap rarely entertains me for more than 5 minutes...

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i get a kick outta rap in the flow...with like, rhymin' the words, its like poetry to me...just a revised form. i like the whole competitive nature to it, i love the idea of freestyling, i think its such a fuckin...talent, people take it for granted. plus like, rhymin' words, if u listen to people like Eminem, Biggie Smalls Big Daddy Kane...the multi-syllabic rhymes n shit, its a talent...a rare one.

the streets fuckin rule!!! i love that fuckin guy!!! see this is what i mean, when u get ur own accent and ur own style and just talk about real shit, shit around you, thats when its cool. but yeah, Pistols aren't too popular here either...they're kind of like required reading for some people, they feel they gotta know em for their opinions on music to seem valid...posturing bullshit, goes on a lot here in america

don't think he's ur typa shit although thats a really fucking pompous comment on my part considering i dunno dick about you but like, just from what i gather by ur posts.

fair play...only rap i like is garage

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garage is an odd concept when ur in america...i dont wannabe rude, but...it strikes me as lotta people, well the mainstream stuff like so solid crew etc, tryna act american and it's really tragic cuz when u look at all the really cool authentically british shit out there, theres no need. the whole 70s punk movement, the entire rave scene from the early 90s...Ian Dury etc, theres tonsa authentic stuff around but to be honest, garage, with that two step beat and those MCs, along with british hip hop is like, embarassing to me...and im not even british

no clue, the two songs i've heard i don't like

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don't think he's ur typa shit although thats a really fucking pompous comment on my part considering i dunno dick about you but like, just from what i gather by ur posts.

musically, ideologically, acting-wise...just, him over all...

i like the one with the video where they get chased thru the desert by Ted Bundy and get their skulls caved in with a tyre iron...

L.A.M.F. = most underrated album on the planet...by Johnny Thunders & The Heartbreakers