lost un the jungle

1 hour ago, kingcanyon said:

full show is up on youtube

 

Thanks!! I think he sounds average 2023, not great and not terribly bad. He needs recovery, too much touring is taking a toll on ol' Axl

1 year break, then start touring again adding and old song and releasing another chinese "new" song. This was the case for the last 7 years and this will continue to be in the future. I don't see a 5 years break, they are getting old and this is a lifetime.

3 hours ago, Gordon Comstock said:

 

It was great. I remember most people being shocked that Shackler's was one of the best live songs and Prostitute was one of the worst. Unpredictable sets, Axl in 1991 chainsaw rasp mode, and it even seemed like there was a chance of a re-release with bonus tracks, remixes and better artwork within the next year... oh well.

yeah, he had lot of gas in the tank!

HOB 2001

Rio 2001

Hammerstein 2006

Osaka 2009

Maybe if we get some proshot of those years we can evaluate other performances. Overall, I think what made them suck or being good during the years was if Axl was 100% or half ass singing.

5 hours ago, LlamaRenegade said:

I also noticed when they played Perhaps that Axl only sang the "all alone" lines in the chorus and let Duff sing the alternating lines. I think that's an improvement because Axl seems to struggle and get out of breath trying to sing all the lines himself.

This! when I first heard the single tought that they were going to play it this way, but instead was full Axl. Now it makes more sense for Duff doing the backing vocals, otherwise uncle Ax goes out of steam

11 minutes ago, mystery said:

Axl wasn't hounded for years by Izzy and Steven questions and chants like he was with Slash. I do think its a shame that they likely will never play live again but its remarkable that all 5 members of the classic lineup are still alive.

at this point a full reunion makes no sense. The only thing that will not happen but can be valid is bringing Izzy back for a new album. But, if they are still releasing old ass material from 1999, I see almost impossible that new songs can be written.

To the meme "all I can offer is another year of touring" I would add "all I can offer is another SCOM with Carrie" or "all I can offer is another CD B-side"

On 8/25/2023 at 7:49 AM, AXL_N_DIZZY said:

Personally, never got that great a vibe about things 2002-2008. The initial revamped line-up (i.e. 97-01) had a lot of studio/rehearsal time, and things like RIR 3 to bind them- and I always had the sense the 2009-2014 line-up was more of a traveling frat party just playing the string out with much of the pressure off them.

I agree, after CD release GNR was Axl+"Friends" on summer camp playing

2 hours ago, Gordon Comstock said:

The reunion that the general public cared about was always just Axl and Slash. Bringing back more classic members wouldn't make much of a difference in a stadium setting.

This! only hardcore fans know Steven and Izzy. At this point they wouldn't make a difference audience wise

6 hours ago, Blackstar said:

He would have just worn a wig.

I remember reading in this forum that in 2001 he was wearing a wig!! is that true? It seems because his hairline changed from 1993, thicker hair, etc. 

i remember watching it or a picture of the rehearsal. If it was on youtube it must be removed by fernando's trolls 

The topic is wrong: Frank was always a touring piece, I think nobody give a F if he has an idea or suggestion to be applied in the studio

2 hours ago, Mikey Whipwreck said:

I'm sure it is frustrating to a degree. But they were paid salaries while in the band and they received writing credits where due. Tommy, Robin, Josh and Paul all get a piece of royalties from Hard Skool. That seems preferable to it collecting dust in the vault 

in your mind maybe it is this way, but in their mind they were ripped off, because the song were written by some/all of former members and (for sure) because of a contract they gave up their credits. Anyways, we are not talking about Hotel California or Stairway to Heaven, it is Perhaps...

1 hour ago, DoMw94 said:

Of course! They would've easily had six figure salaries and earnt per year/tour/session.

They wouldn't make as much as Axl, but they'd earn a lot more than if they worked in an office instead.

Here's a thread from 2008 discussing what The Rolling Stones' touring musicians make. Of course, the Stones are a bigger touring entity than Guns, but it gives a reasonable insight. If an anonymous (yet talented) player like Darryl Jones was making a million for touring back then, then I'd say it was a safe bet tthatthe likes of Robin, Tommy, and Chris etc. (who were all considered 'members') could've got at least $100k a year for touring and recording. Chris even sued for over $100k in missing earnings when he left the band.

100k is a lot for me, but don't know if it is a lot considering the numbers of a tour. Now, of course, the real question is what they do instead to make more money. For instance, Tommy with the cowboys & crap I think is making only for weed and hotels

24 minutes ago, jacdaniel said:

They earned a lot of money playing songs that weren't theirs. They're probably thanking Guns for financial security 

you think? I always wondered how much they earned and if all have the same status in terms of salary/contract

These guys (mainly Tommy and Robin) put a lot of effort to write music for GNR, so it must be frustrating seeing how now out of the blue the same song comes out with Slash and Duff pressed as "creators". The underlying message of all these late releases is that Axl is the one who decides what is recorded/released, etc. Slash and Duff couldn't make him write a new song or introduce to him something worth to be released (in Axl's vision). So, regarding power management, Axl is in control and the one who has the keys of he money making machine.

1 hour ago, The Real McCoy said:

I have to say…my favorite thing about the video is how it presents GNR as a BAND.

They could have just focused on Axl, Slash, and Duff, but I really do love how everyone gets equal screen time and there’s enough close ups of everyone to show them off to casual fans.

It really does feel like this is the beginning of something big.

I agree, also introducing Fernando as a formal member makes justice for the poor guy

19 minutes ago, Amish said:

Has any commented on the piano intro sounding kind of like Sweet Home Alabama?

maybe, perhaps!

let's see how do they play it live, all this synth voice should be gone and Duff backing vocals should kick in in the chorus

10 minutes ago, gonzalo palmese said:

Hey folks don't know if it's mentioned but I remember Baz talking bout the general saying it was AMAZING does anyone remember that? 

I remember him talking about This I Love, but not the general

Just watched the video on YT. The video is ok, but it sucks that they made this copy/paste of random scenes. Looks more like a familiar tape than a music video...

The song is OK for me, piano fits perfect, guitars, vocals, etc. Don't like the backing vocals on the chorus (kind of the ones on The Garden from UYI, like a roar).

Hope this is the kickstart from a new album

Edit: WTF are Beta and Fernando doing there????

11 hours ago, D4NNY said:

Thought Axl was the one doing the biting? 

yes! I was wrong, he bit a security guy. I was confused with the tommy hilfiger brawl that also happened by the same era

1 minute ago, Stryker said:

I unironically believe the name of the tour and the lithos are the best thing the band has done in the past decade.

Other good one was when he san "out ta bite me", related to a dude that bit him in a sort of fight (circa 2007)

6 minutes ago, AxlRoseCDII said:

No way in hell.

he called a tour "not in this lifetime", so for sure he can joke with this!

2 minutes ago, The Real McCoy said:

Gotta say…Chrissie Hynde looks and sounds great for 71.

She looks and sounds awesome! I watched them the first time in the Taylor Hawkins tribute and they still perform very good. Also the dudes from James Gang are quite a show