Nobodys_Fault

Marty's ex wife visiting Rusty at the bar and basically telling Rusty to make sure no harm comes to Marty is foreshadowing Marty's death. What other reason did that entire scene have?

I would say the fact it was so heavy on the foreshadowing indicates that he won't. All signs point to Rust attempting to "crucify" himself to close the case and Marty losing his life in the process. I would be disappointed if that's the way it plays out because the show has been pretty unpredictable until now. I also expect a conclusion to the Audrey plot line considering they've gone to considerable lengths to invite speculation. It almost seems impossible to close everything out in one episode... I really hope the black stars/carcosa/yellow king stuff isn't a plot device to tie future seasons in to this one.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/03/special-advisor-pm-arrested

This comes after his first choice communications director was arrested "in connection with allegations of corruption and phone hacking" and his immigration minister resigned after it was revealed he had hired an illegal immigrant as a housekeeper.

Couldn't make this shit up. Not long ago the above sentence would have read like obvious satire.

First two seasons were brilliant. Second generation had a few interesting characters.. was watchable at least. Third generation was an abomination.

Like they said he's setting others up for the crimes.

Funny thing is Pizzolatto said there is no trick. And he doesn't know why people think that. To me that's disingenuous as there are so many red herrings.

But that doesnt rule out Rust as he's shown the psychopathic mind he has.

He said the killings are about hunting and women as trophies. That's the killer. I thought Marty.

So split personality is out. Marty could be the misogyny and Rust the psycho side.

So it's more just about the characters. The change in Rust from ep 1 to ep 6 is pretty drastic. At this point who cares who is doing the killing?

Seems like Rust has some more evidence or a lead so maybe they will find the serial killer. Pizzolatto claims there is one.

I think the barrage of 'clues' might be just to coax the audience in to the same mindset as Rust. Mirror the "detectives curse" that Marty spoke of. Obsessively looking at everything with a magnifying glass when the answer was right under our nose.

Last episode was the weakest of the season by far. Still great TV, but I'm really hoping the conclusion isn't as tidy as this episode was.

The "who knows" part is exactly what I'm emphasizing. I think that's the only reason we're not eye to eye here. You're emphasizing possibilities based on unpredictability of past "advances" (I really do insist on quotes around that word, sorry), and I'm emphasizing the unpredictability.

Yeah, I'm not saying you're wrong - you are correct. A society that is vastly superior technologically in the future is not an inevitably. It's entirely possible that we reach the ceiling in terms of silicon based computing within the next ten years if nobody comes up with something that will push it beyond the limits of thermal dynamics.

There is one original reality. Eventually computing power will be great enough to allow multiple simulated realities to run. Within those simulated realities eventually computing power will be great enough to allow simulated realities to run. And within those simulated realities eventually computing power will be great enough to allow simulated realities to run. Ad infinitum. Now given the massive number of possible simulated realities, how likely is it that you're in the one original reality?

Do you believe that we are merely the re-run of a more advanced society?

Why would society want to trigger such a process though? If we're doomed to commit the same actions, what's the point? Is it for a sense of immortality?

No I don't believe it. I just think it's an interesting idea(and entirely possible).

As for your second point - a simulation does not repeat endlessly. It can branch off anywhere. All it has to do is follow the underpinning laws of the universe. And indeed it could be argued that there is an element at the heart of everything that ensures a self-repeating loop is impossible - the mathematics of chaos.

Nobody's_Fault's points make sense to me, to a point, but I'm yet to be persuaded that a "reality" with conscious (maybe quotes around that too?) beings can be fully simulated. Granted, I haven't read much on the topic, but everything in this thread seems to take it for granted that technology can develop and "advance" in such a manner.

To be perfectly honest I'm not entirely convinced that conscious beings can be fully simulated either. But to take an example - the web turned 25 today. If you told me 25 years ago(had I been alive ) that in the present day, by pushing a few buttons on a box i carry in my pocket, I would be broadcasting my thoughts across the world to a bunch of Guns N' Roses fans I'm not sure I would have been convinced of that either. Given that society hasn't stopped advancing at the pace predicted by Moore's Law I think it's incorrect to assume that we're going to be slowing down any time soon. Ridiculous shit is happening every goddamn day. Just this week the number of planets known to humanity doubled. Who knows what we'll be capable of in another 30-40 years.

Vitor pulls out of the Weidman fight. Machida in. How fucking predictable.

For all the atheists around....out of curiosity, why do some of you find this "theory" possible but the existence of God not?

Most religions are a 'simulation theory' of sorts. The Hindus. The Buddhists. Even Christianity to a certain extent. God creates man in his image and places him in a world that is a pale shadow of the real one(Heaven). The difference between that and the theory detailed in the OP, is that in this one we are both servants of God and potential God's of our own. We made it all.

In what instance would simulation be permitted though - apocalypse? Surely a future society would place heavy constraints on such a concept?

Would it be a simulation that continually repeats? Or would we have a fixed destiny?

I think if society possesses the technology to create a simulated universe they won't need any reason at all. They'll do it because they can. Think of it like this:

There is one original reality. Eventually computing power will be great enough to allow multiple simulated realities to run. Within those simulated realities eventually computing power will be great enough to allow simulated realities to run. And within those simulated realities eventually computing power will be great enough to allow simulated realities to run. Ad infinitum. Now given the massive number of possible simulated realities, how likely is it that you're in the one original reality?

As for destiny - a simulation simulates. All realities are inside the original one meaning the original is ever present.

If you look at from a purely mathematical point of view, and assume Moore's Law is valid, then the probability that the universe is a simulation is greater than the probability that it is not.

As time increases the likelihood that technology advances to the point where a simulated reality is possible approaches 100%. So what is more likely? That we exist right on the brink of this being possible? Or that we exist in the simulation? Being the historically egotistical creatures that we are(the sun and the universe revolve around us, God created this all for us), we naturally assume that we are the first. Yet the math seems to predict that we're not. The universe is pixelated - there exists a fundamental unit that you cannot break down into anything smaller. It follows mathematics to the letter, yet it doesn't have to(“The most incomprehensible thing about the universe is that it’s comprehensible.”). In quantum mechanics, particles do not have a definite state unless they’re being observed. In video games like GTA V the world is not rendered unless the player is observing it...

Then again maybe Moore's Law will be proven incorrect in the next decade or so. And in that case I should just stfu and lay off the pipe for a bit.

Give me a relatively recent TV show to watch so I that can distract my mind from True Detective.

Justified.

This album is fantastic. Beck at his best.

Schoolboy Q's album Oxymoron leaked the other day and it's really good. The new west coast sound is great. TDE is winning.

Been listening to this a lot over the past couple of days. Love it.

If you can't enjoy a film because of an actor's race then you are, at best, an idiot. Heimdall wasn't black either but Idris Elba still did a great job with the character in Thor.

Seen them live at a festival once and they were absolutely terrible. Band looked like they were nailed to the floor.

She did get her tits out though.

Came in here to badmouth the US version of Skins but I see you have that covered. Good lord it was awful.

I don't have the energy right now to read it myself, but over at the Daily Beast they've posted the first four chapters of "The King of Yellow," the 1895 book by Robert W. Chambers.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/20/read-the-king-in-yellow-the-true-detective-reference-that-s-the-key-to-the-show.html

You can get the Kindle version of the book on Amazon for free.

Also I couldn't help but feel that in Rust's speech about time he was explaining to the detectives exactly what each and every one of them are - fictional characters in a television show. A flat disc observed repeatedly from a different dimension? It's a DVD. Or a tape. Going in circles. Rust is aware that he is a character trapped in a never ending story. The circular imagery was everywhere in the last episode - the magazine on the AK, the girl's crown, the big knot in the tree.

Loved that dialogue piece, pulled off to perfection.

The McConologues are the best part of the show. They're outstanding.

Anyone here ever read Grant Morrison's The Invisibles? Rust's theory on reality reminded me of it quite a bit. Coincidentally it also makes frequent reference to The King In Yellow.

I'll be very surprised if "Rust is the killer" is not a red herring. They've been hinting at that from the beginning and the show seems to be much too smart to let that be the entire mystery. If I was to guess I would say Marty's wife/her dad are involved. The last episode further perpetuated the idea that Marty's infidelity and his job has messed up his daughter, painting his wife as the innocent party but I don't know - I think they could turn that on its head.

Also I couldn't help but feel that in Rust's speech about time he was explaining to the detectives exactly what each and every one of them are - fictional characters in a television show. A flat disc observed repeatedly from a different dimension? It's a DVD. Or a tape. Going in circles. Rust is aware that he is a character trapped in a never ending story. The circular imagery was everywhere in the last episode - the magazine on the AK, the girl's crown, the big knot in the tree. I'm not sure if this will become an actual plot point or if it's merely meta fictional commentary but this shit if by far the most interesting thing I've seen on TV in a while. Last three episodes are going to be wild.

Am I right in saying that Fooball Manager 2014 still hasn't been reliably cracked? Sandman, what say you?

Don't think so. I got it installed and running but the game always crashes out after the first couple of months.

That six minute unbroken shot of Rust at the end is one of the greatest things I've ever seen on TV. They built the tension up so well through this episode right up to that point where Rust is trying to direct the carnage around him then the powderkeg blows, and the whole thing goes to shit. Building that kind of tension through the last twenty minutes, even though we know the protagonist is going to be fine, is an amazing feat to pull off.

Aaaand it's been cancelled.

The kid is a menace all over the internet.

Are you serious? Or is there some obvious satire I'm missing out on here?

Dirty Wars

A brilliant, chilling piece of journalism. Go watch it.

Wow, this is fucking ridiculous. The spotlight on him exists because he killed a kid.. any decent person would try to get the hell out of it but he's using the hate to stay in. And then out of the 'applicants' he chooses to fight a 43 year old, bankrupt crackhead.

Hope DMX just kicks him in the dick once they ring the bell because I doubt he's gonna outbox a 30 year old.

Alright people, recommend me a TV show that I could start from the top to bottom. Currently watching the True Detective masterpiece but any suggestions would help.

Series i've completed:

Breaking Bad (masterpiece)

Dexter

Deadwood

Six Feet Under (masterpiece)

All AHS seasons

Game of Thrones

True Blood

Oz

Twin Peaks (masterpiece)

Carnivale

Is Boardwalk Empire worth getting back in to? I stopped watching around S2.

Give Justified a whirl after The Wire. Boardwalk is worth watching. Slows down a bit mid-season but always ramps it up for the last couple of episodes.