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3 hours ago, DTV88 said:

Say what now? Not saying I don't believe you, but is there any proof of this? I seem to recall the publishing deal but not that part of it.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/guns-n-roses-catalog-to-generate-100-million-for-sanctuary/

This says "All future material" but I definitely remember something at the time from a news source that mentioned around 50 songs. 

8 hours ago, jamillos said:

You can’t in all seriousness claim to know such things. People confuse stuff that hasn’t been released with stuff that doesn’t exist. I mean, we have 2003, 2004, 2005 (three years in a row), 2008, 2009, then 2014, 2015, half of 2018, most of 2019, and 2020. Do you seriously think he didn’t write/compose anything in all those years? Even if he’s written just 10 decent things recently, he can still use stuff from those "shitloads" he has from the CD era or whatever. 

We take things out of context. I wouldn’t expect him to write much material while on a tour, he’s more like getting a BJ in a pool with a drink in one hand and a cigar in the other (I’d imagine). And we don’t know whether they didn’t plan on starting something new live this year – there surely were hints (sure, could have been just some TB bullshit), but with the C-virus (RE, anyone?) shit happening now, we’ll probably never know. 

I do believe Axl has tons of lyrics in his drawer and tons of music in his studio. The question is not whether they have something – we know they do for sure (Slash, Duff) – but when will we hear it. Even if he wrote just a few songs during the last few years, just couple it with CD II tunes, and we have a full record. Or do you think Slash would contribute to an album of some shitty leftovers? That’s not his style, and it’s not Axl’s style either. 
The trouble is, it’s downtime for now... And yeah, they’re not exactly online-release people, are they. 

I used to think it was true, and pretty obvious, until the locker leaks proved there's more. The only other hint was the publishing deal the band signed with...I want to say Sanctuary? It sold the copyright on 50 new unreleased songs, before Chinese Democracy was released. So they must exist.

The demo of Don't Cry being included would've been interesting. I thought I was the only one that thinks the demo is better than both versions on the Illusions albums.

1 hour ago, BigVanVader said:

Does anyone else find the leaks too convenient and too much of a coincidence to not seem intentional? 

+ If I recall correctly, there was not a single song leaked that was not later played on the 2006 tour cycle (2006 leaks).

 

Catcher In The Rye wasn't played, and clearly sounded different from the rest. The rest seemed planned.

It's just exhausting. I don't hate either one but I am very bored by the whole thing, I saw the tour on the first leg and it was fine but I'd surely not pay to see the same show again. The very popular opinion that Slash would've totally elevated the Chinese Democracy songs if he had played on them...not quite. If they were complete reimaginings and now came off like he wrote them in the first place? It'd be a fun experience to see live, as someone who religiously listened to the leaks and live bootlegs during the whole saga, but he hasn't done that, they're just his slightly modified versions of the songs. The rest of it? Snore. I am truly perplexed by why they were trying another stadium tour this summer without releasing any new muisc, and the real shame of it being cancelled is that they'll probably chalk the poor sales up to coronavirus even though that had nothing to do with it and try it again next summer.

She looks like a perfect mix of Izzy and Maureen Ponderosa.

Haha I mean I needed it and the drugs were fantastic so it wasn't that bad. It was something that started when I was like 13 and just got worse until it was noticeable.

3 minutes ago, soon said:

 

The biggest indicator to me is that in the 2001 photos the students are dressed up. Men in tuxedos and women in black, scooped V necks. This is a typical ritual for the graduating class. The 2000 pics dont appear do be dressed up. The colour photos are sometimes reserved for the graduating class too.

Right, in my yearbook we weren't even listed in the same format as the usual block of people with small pictures next to each other. We had dedicated inserts of us dressed up for our "senior pictures". My first attempt at getting them done led to my Mom deciding to get me eye surgery because I was almost completely cross-eyed in my fancy, expensive pictures.

That's the most likely scenario, yes.

Year of graduation. So if she's in the 2000-01 section she graduated in 2001.

I guess they've gone from thinking we were born yesterday ("working on new material"/"Covid prevented us from releasing new music") to wanting us to think Melissa was?

3 hours ago, bigpoop said:

That doesn't really look like her to me, I could be wrong though.

Just now, Live Like a Suicide said:

It's probably equally painful that he co-founded the band and it proceeded with his name while without his involvement.

Not as bad as David Lee Roth convincing Eddie to change the name to "Van Halen" then wishing he could take it with him when he left.

1 hour ago, bigpoop said:

http://roosevelthighschoolalumni.org/seattle-wa/alumni/7125539/melissa-reese.html

She's not that old, Axl just got them to let her skip ten grades. A long-con practical joke.

It's pretty obvious the answer is no or it would've come up by now but is there any mention of the thing about how he was supposed to be guest drumming for a week on Kimmel or Fallon coinciding with the reunion announcement and he abruptly cancelled with no explanation?

2 hours ago, soon said:

I never knew that Michael J Fox was on Madagascar! I guess he's using an accent for the character. Cool! 

He doesn't use an accent. If you know it's him speaking when he does it's pretty clearly his regular voice, just slightly pitchier than normal.

39 minutes ago, Creed said:

WTF? So is autotune. Axl's vocals are awful...An Axl in his prime could have saved every bad album. But here he just sucks...

But the album has so many problems...Imagine madagascar with a real orchestration...instead we got very cheap sounding synths...i can't stand the sound and production of CD. It sounds like an older album, which was re-recorded many many times. You can see that Axl lost track, when he made +0,5db versions of CD stuff. 

The album is interesting in terms of ideas. But the production is awful and so is Axl's voice. 

The Rock the Rock voice is better. Its far away from old Axl, but at least listenable instead of the Mickey Mouse voice.

 

And it includes takes from how many vocal sessions? We have proof of some but we'll never know. I wish it had been done all at once. He sounded really great on "Angel Down" which gave me hope he'd sound the same when Chinese Democracy finally came out but it was all stuff we'd heard before.

2 hours ago, Oldest Goat said:

On a bit of a sidenote I was watching a Nine Inch Nails concert on YouTube recently and was blown away by Fink's playing. I've never paid him much mind but I'd be interested to hear what he did for GNR now, as well as Buckethead.

(Panorama NYC Concert 30/07/2017)

I had the same opinion of him as you until the Hammerstein shows in 2006, I went to the Sunday one and he was suddenly a huge star. He finally looked like a badass and not like that skulleted freak on the VMAS, and he was on fire all night.

1 hour ago, registra said:

Correct me if I'm wrong cause I don't know anything about mixing, but considering most say Matt's drum work on UYIs is average, Bob using drum samplings could have made the drums sound a lot better in the final product? Or am I misunderstanding?

The rest of the band raved about how he was able to step in and rescue them after Adler was fired. It was close to breaking them up before they found him.

Book stores are considered non-essential.

I think at this point I prefer leaks with vocals to an official release.

14 hours ago, DurhamGirl said:

The word 'enigma' keeps coming up and I would agree with this although my knowledge is second hand as i wasnt around 87-93.  We dont get to know very much about him so the reclusive aspect makes for some kind of 'mystique'.    Cult of the personality, interesting.  I also wonder if there is a difference in opinion between the men and women.

I was born in '87 so I don't really remember them being on top. But to me it seems like he wasn't seen as an enigma until after '93. Definitely an interesting personality but not reclusive.

On 8/28/2019 at 6:06 AM, Rovim said:

 

I don't really see it as a concept album and it is my opinion that Twat, Better, and Catcher were the big guns that got released. The editing out of Brian May is interesting because I remember Axl said he was surprised fans that heard the Catcher leak mostly didn't like May's work on it or at least were less than excited about it. My guess is he decided to replace it with Bumble's work because of the poor reception of it online.

If that's true, and I don't remember him saying that, it's total nonsense. I don't remember reading a single complaint about May's guitar parts and I was around from the second it leaked.

On 10/6/2019 at 10:17 PM, TheSeeker said:

I'm going to guess he recorded all the vocals for Shackler's Revenge, If the World, Scraped, Sorry and This I Love in December 2006.

That can't be right because Shackler's Revenge was inspired by the Virginia Tech shooting in 2007.