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Also they can work together without being friends. Happens all the time.
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Rumors are flying about a comeback for the classic 'Appetite' lineup, but can they be believed?
By Andy GreeneNovember 13, 2015
We lay out five reasons why the GN'R reunion is destined to happen, and five reasons why the prospect seems highly unlikely.
Rumors of a Guns N' Roses reunion have been swirling for months, but things went semi-nuclear earlier this week when an article on Dish Nation flatly said it was happening and Brandi Glanville, a friend of Duff McKagan's wife, blurted out "Guns N' Roses is coming back, motherfuckers!" in a video interview. Tweets from the official Guns N' Roses account fueled speculation: "Surely they'll read between the lines," "If only they could read lips ...," "Of course today everyone is a jouranlist [sic]" and "What ever happened to no news is good news?" And yesterday, Nikki Sixx of Mötley Crüe chimed in with his own two cents.
To be very clear, none of this resembles confirmation. We aren't disparaging the good people at Dish Nation, and it's possible they have the rock scoop of the decade, but we'd like to know a little more about their reporting. Also, a random outburst from one of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills never tends to mean much of anything. There's also that interview Slash gave a few months ago to a Swedish TV station where he was asked about a supposed report that he was speaking to Axl Rose again. "It was probably way overdue, you know," he said. "But it's very cool at this point to dispel some of that negative stuff that was going on for so long." Call us cynical, but the video looks a little fishy. It's possible the quote was either out of context or Slash didn't quite hear the question right.
So are G'NR on the verge of announcing a 200-date stadium tour, or will Axl Rose never appear in public again? Here are five compelling reasons why the reunion is a go and five just as sound reasons why it's not.
Why It's Going to Happen
1. The most recent lineup is kaput.
The new version of Guns N' Roses haven't played a concert since their Las Vegas residency ended in June of 2014, and in the interim, guitarists DJ Ashba and Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal have left the band and bassist Tommy Stinson has said he has absolutely no idea what's happening with the group. Axl has let the latter-day lineup fall into tatters, which seems to suggest he's gearing up to bring back the classic configuration.
2. New Guns N' Roses had toured itself into oblivion.
When Guns N' Roses went out in 2002 and 2006, they packed arenas all over America, but eventually they were reduced to a theater and club act. You simply can't do the same show over and over and expect people to keep seeing it. Their last shows were part of a Las Vegas residency, and even that was starting to grow stale. The only logical move at that point is a reunion.
3. They'd get a nine-figure payday.
Axl Rose may not be the most rational person on earth, but even he would presumably have trouble turning down the insane money he'd get for a reunion tour. The guys in Aerosmith aren't exactly best friends, but they suck it up night after night and make a fortune in the process.
4. Nearly every band eventually reunites.
How many times did the Stone Roses, the Police and Van Halen say they'd never do it? It's simply the fate of nearly every band to re-form, especially when all the members are living. There are just simply too many forces pulling them together and nothing keeping them apart other than stubbornness and bitterness.
5. Nobody has truly denied it.
The Slash "probably way overdue" interview was in August. Since then, he hasn't stepped forward to dispute anything. The guy isn't exactly media-shy, but he's been suspiciously off-the-grid these past three months.
Conclusion:
There's more than enough evidence to think that something is happening in the world of Guns N' Roses. Any tour will involve a small army of lawyers, managers, promoters, more lawyers, publicists and even more lawyers. It might take a year-plus to hammer everything together, but this is going to happen.
Why It's Not Going To Happen
1. Axl hates Slash more than he loves money.
Nobody quite understands why Axl feels such venom towards his former guitarist, but it's undeniable that he does. Guns N' Roses played a ton of concerts during the past decade, and they put a ton of money into Axl's pockets. He might very well feel he's got enough cash to live comfortably for the rest of his life.
2. There's not a single credible report out there.
Despite the countless articles written about this over the past few months, nobody has produced anything concrete. That explanation could be pretty simple: There is nothing concrete about this. It's just rumor, irresponsible journalism and the fevered wishes of hardcore fans.
3. A legit reunion is no easy task.
The band is more than just Axl, Slash and Duff. That lineup would be enough to fill arenas, but the fans want the whole Appetite for Destruction lineup. Rhythm guitarist Izzy Stradlin is just about the least reliable man on the planet. He hasn't gone on a real tour in well over 20 years. Something like this might be enough to make it happen, but we have our doubts. Then there's the drummer situation. Anyone with access to VH1 knows the Steven Adler story. He could certainly play the Appetite songs, but he's never done the Use Your Illusion material in concert and we can't imagine Axl letting him try. The obvious move would be to use Illusion drummer Matt Sorum, but Axl (for reasons that remain unclear) seems to hate him more than Slash. It makes all of this very complicated.
4. Axl has said he'll never, ever do this, and we should take him at his word.
Led Zeppelin never reunited for a tour. Joe Strummer went to his grave without a Clash reunion. Morrissey will certainly never re-form the Smiths. Sometimes we need to believe these guys when they say, "Never, ever, ever, ever."
5. We're talking about Axl Rose here.
He's never taken the easy path or done what everyone wants him to do. The guy had the biggest rock band on the planet, and he pissed the whole thing away after, essentially, two albums. He doesn't play by the rules, and a Hell Freezes Over tour with his old buddies Slash and Steven Adler isn't something he wants to do. In fact, he'd quite possibly rather die.
Conclusion:
It ain't happening. No matter how much we all want to see this show, it simply isn't going to happen. Axl is Axl, and he doesn't care about our happiness. There will probably be another 10,000 articles about this over the next few months, but it doesn't matter. It isn't happening.
Then again …
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You guys can't accept anything, can you? But well, this doesn't surprise anyone, does it? I mean, did anyone doubt that even if Slash and Duff were back onboard some people would be like OMG BUT STEVEN ADLER WHERE IS HE THIS IS NOT GNR FUCK WAXY
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This line-up was called months ago by anyone with any sense. I mean, if Slash and Duff were back this was obviously the only way it would happen. Axl scrapping everything to reunite the AFD five? Not believable at all. Slash filling in the vacant guitar spot and Duff on the bass one? I can buy that. Now the question is, did those journalists lurk around here for a while and connected those same dots we did or did they really get any info we didn't?
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The spiritual Guns N' Roses reunion? That would be amazing indeed. If the reunion indeed happens, I'll be pissed if Axl starts on time, if there aren't any cancelled dates and at least one riot.
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Your opinion doesn't change the fact that clearly a lot of people do.
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Duff has been sober for years, so seeing his wife high and acting dumb is disrespectful to him.
lol no
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You guys just have to stop waiting, that's all. 2 months? 4 months? Fuck it. Whenever there's something ready to be announced, if there's anything to announce at all, we'll know. I also would like to know things, and would like if they sticked to the time frame they tell us, but they don't do that. They never did and probably never will. And I get Fernando. Imagine if you were in his position: thousands of people from all around the world waiting to hear some news, and you're the middle man. Of course I'd want to deliver, but if, for WHATEVER reason it is, things are postponed, the person who had made the announcement previously - in the case, Fernando - gets fucked, which is understandable. He is in a delicate position. I mean, all that frustration and questioning should be made towards Axl, not Fernando. But Fernando's job is (or not, maybe I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about) to be the middle man, serving as a kind of shield.
Like, you guys really think Fernando didn't announce whatever it was because he didn't want to? Or because he forgot? Or 'cus he is evil?
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Eagles Of Death Metal is a different band, of course Axl's audience wouldn't like it. What a surprise. And what the guy said is spot on, Axl should just let the band reunite, ffs. It's like GNR is his hostage.
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Fairly rated. I believe most will agree that generally they are "good albums". Some crappy songs, some amazing ones.
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That was pretty funny.
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Frank wasn't in the band in 2006.
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Some random GNR-related page posted this today on facebook, a guy named Scotty Slam said he took the pic:
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oh because a full reunion wouldnt be?
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Tommy basically said NuGNR was over after Vegas.
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Yeah, people confuse lots of things around here - and pretty much everywhere. You can love an artist and his work and still criticize him. One thing doesn't exclude the other - that's how a child thinks.
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So the source is the fermanator a.k.a. Fernando al Brazilo? Then: credible. If Jarmo confirms, it is true.
No, the "source" is a person/site well known for just plain making stuff up.
My guess is that they're in a constant state of hoping that one day something they make up will come true.
Thats not the case. The Fã Clube has had a few correct guesses over the years. They do have their sources. Im not saying they are trustworthy or anything. This rumour here is probably bullshit indeed, but they don't just make stuff up. One of their sources was well known...
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Tbf when this original news saying the band would be dissolved and members allowed to do their own thing, our reaction was to call bullshit. That turned out to be considerably accurate though.
That is weird though Manets. It says Axl thinks his voice is gone and is not willing to appear live anymore - so, because of that, he is booking a tour with the old band. Doesn't make much sense.
Yeah, I know. I found this rumor weird as well.
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I saw no reason for it to be closed in the first place. Don't want to discuss something, don't enter the topic. But we cant discuss rumors about the band on the band forum? Come on.
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Leave it open at least, I think we should be able to discuss whatever pops up on these matters.
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